General Coach Candidate News

[Hoosierfan2017]

6 minutes ago, Scotty R said:

I am not talking about the administration but the fans turning on coaches at the first site if trouble.

That’s because winners can turn around a program in a single season in the portal/NIL era. Louisville just went 18-2 in the ACC. Coach Cig just took freaking IU football to the CFP in year one. Arguably the worst P5 program in the country. I have absolutely zero interest in waiting around 2-3 years once again to see if the coach can turn things around. Whoever they hire, he needs to be someone who can win immediately. 

[HoosierHoopster]

6 minutes ago, Scotty R said:

I am not talking about the administration but the fans turning on coaches at the first site if trouble.

Actually good coaches don’t worry about this, they’re hired to win, they expect to win, they have built a history of winning 

[Trish]

1 minute ago, Uspshoosier said:

I don’t think so at the initial hiring of him.   I went back in that thread recently to try and find an article about Archie getting hired and how they met him in Atlanta and out west and your first response was IM DEAD or something like that and it made me laugh thinking of you probably thinking of the tank train on day from day.   You might of warmed up to him but your first reaction was priceless 

Sounds like something I would say, but if you do have the thread links, he was on my short list behind Brad, Billy, and I want to say Fife? Let me know if you find them because I’d like to see my short list again after Crean was dismissed. 

[str8baller]

8 minutes ago, IU Prof said:

There is a difference between slow and boring. UConn was in the 300s in pace last year, but I don't think anyone would say they were boring.

The issue with McCollum is experience at this level. Not style of play.

Most people don’t even notice pace unless they look it up…myself included.They’re always surprised to learn Jay Wright or Hurly have teams deep in the 300s in pace. 
 

A good one is Sampson he’s had some really slow teams lately. And if you would’ve asked me before I looked it up I would have bet you they were at least upper half. Nope!

[AH1971]

Also on a personal reassuring note, just talked to a former early Knight-era player whom I cross paths with ever so often at our grandsons basketball games. Said IU has vetted Beard and his transgression that got him fired from Texas wasn’t even the first or even second time it has happened. Similarly related instances in prior relationships with a repeated pattern: booze and anger problems.

He didn’t outright say Beard wasn’t a serious candidate but feel safe in drawing my own conclusions that he isn’t.

[Hoosier987]

5 minutes ago, Trish said:

If you’re wanting actual news, you’ll be waiting until after Selection Sunday / Indiana’s final game. The rumors have been shut down for a reason, too much smoke was blowing. 

I gotta say. I like your confidence. I think Scott is going to lock us down with a very good coach that’s well known 

[IUBtown]

3 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

That’s because winners can turn around a program in a single season in the portal/NIL era. Louisville just went 18-2 in the ACC. Coach Cig just took freaking IU football to the CFP in year one. Arguably the worst P5 program in the country. I have absolutely zero interest in waiting around 2-3 years once again to see if the coach can turn things around. Whoever they hire, he needs to be someone who can win immediately. 

Louisville has also only played 2 top 50 Kenpom teams since jan 1st.  Their conference schedule is abysmal. 

[JSHoosier]

3 minutes ago, Trish said:

He doesn’t have a sexy resume, that’s for sure. In fact, the only reason he’s mentioned is because he’s from Indiana I guess? But again, if Dolson is hiring a guy like that, then we all know the real status of Indiana Basketball. 

He's from Indiana and his name isn't Mike Woodson.

[HoosierHoopster]

2 minutes ago, str8baller said:

Most people don’t even notice pace unless they look it up…myself included.They’re always surprised to learn Jay Wright or Hurly have teams deep in the 300s in pace. 
 

A good one is Sampson he’s had some really slow teams lately. And if you would’ve asked me before I looked it up I would have bet you they were at least upper half. Nope!

Solid point. Personally I like get up and down, transition D play, but so long as the teams have a balanced O with outside shooting, wing actions etc., pace becomes less noticeable 

[Uspshoosier]

5 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

That’s because winners can turn around a program in a single season in the portal/NIL. Louisville just went 18-2 in the ACC. Coach Cig just took freaking IU football to the CFP in year one. Arguably the worst P5 program in the country. I have absolutely zero interest in waiting around 2-3 years once again to see if the coach can turn things around. Whoever they hire, he needs to be someone who can win immediately. 

IU use to be only one of the few programs that spent a bunch of money on their programs especially in the B1G.  They dominated recruiting in the Midwest because they were one of the few that was nationally televised most of their games.   Nowadays everyone spends money on basketball.  Sec 10 years ago started spending and now look at what they are doing.   In the B1G Wisky and others now spend money and there are no longer guaranteed wins in the B1G.  Coaches know where ever they coach they will no on TV.  I have access to 99 of every college basketball game if I want to watch it.   Times have changed.   History tells you IUs next coach will more then likely be from a non Power 5 program 

[AZ Hoosier]

2 hours ago, Hoosierfanyuh said:

https://x.com/goodmanhoops/status/1898802615992918419?s=46

Goodman is just mocking us... what a troll... it's all about clicks...

[Scotty R]

3 minutes ago, HoosierHoopster said:

Actually good coaches don’t worry about this, they’re hired to win, they expect to win, they have built a history of winning 

I just don't see a reason for the guys like TJO or Drew to leave for this job because they can win there and with less pressure. Why do you think UK had to settle for Pope or UL with Kelsey. Top coaches don't leave for other power conference teams. It shouldn't be real hard to understand that 

[Trish]

1 minute ago, JSHoosier said:

He's from Indiana and his name isn't Mike Woodson.

I rather have Dane Fife than the Clemson fella. I think Dane could be a hell of a HC again somewhere, but family usually does come first so I understand him stepping away from the game for a bit. 

[Hoosier987]

Sampson’s team is an absolute wagon. 19-1 in Big 12 conference and undefeated on the road. Think about that…19-1 and undefeated in the road. I believe 19-1 is a Big 12 record. 

[SlammySammy]

Surely we could buy out Jay Wrights tv contract……throw the kitchen sink at that guy….maybe he has the itch again……I’ll take his resume over anyone on the list after Steven’s….at minimum make contact and see if there is interest…..before we get to Brownell

[realTomCrean]

1 hour ago, Hovadipo said:

Time to drag them right across Louisville’s forehead and bring Pat Kelsey to his favorite childhood program. 

Please no

[HinnyHoosier]

7 minutes ago, AH1971 said:

I think style of play is a huge issue at this level. 

Efficiency is the biggest issue. Play style dictates the margin for error, more so if your defense sucks.

That said, get me a guy who can teach kids to put the clamps on people. There's nothing better than seeing an opponent realize the pillow isn't coming off their face until 40 minutes have passed.

[Trish]

4 minutes ago, AH1971 said:

Also on a personal reassuring note, just talked to a former early Knight-era player whom I cross paths with ever so often at our grandsons basketball games. Said IU has vetted Beard and his transgression that got him fired from Texas wasn’t even the first or second time it’s happened. Similarly related instances in prior relationships with a repeated pattern: booze and anger problems.

He didn’t outright say Beard wasn’t a serious candidate but feel safe in drawing my own conclusions that he isn’t.

If Beard didn’t have that baggage, he wouldn’t be at Ole Miss right now, that’s all I know. 

[Hoosier82]

9 minutes ago, AH1971 said:

Also on a personal reassuring note, just talked to a former early Knight-era player whom I cross paths with ever so often at our grandsons basketball games. Said IU has vetted Beard and his transgression that got him fired from Texas wasn’t even the first or second time it’s happened. Similarly related instances in prior relationships with a repeated pattern: booze and anger problems.

He didn’t outright say Beard wasn’t a serious candidate but feel safe in drawing my own conclusions that he isn’t.

I was neutral on hiring Beard.  IU was going to do their due diligence. If he was vetted, and they decided to hire him great.  If they have enough dirt that they weren’t willing to take the risk, I was ok with also.  I figured it was a long shot as IU seems to be fairly risk adverse.  

[HoosierHoopster]

1 minute ago, Scotty R said:

I just don't see a reason for the guys like TJO or Drew to leave for this job because they can win there and with less pressure. Why do you think UK had to settle for Pope or UL with Kelsey. Top coaches don't leave for other power conference teams. It shouldn't be real hard to understand that 

That’s a different point. Not leaving for another power conference team (which does happen but regardless) isn’t bc the coaches are scared fans will turn on them