NCAA MBB Transfer Portal

[Hoosierfan2017]

10 minutes ago, JJacks said:

He isn't the athlete that Sheehey was.  Also, Woody didn't recruit him.  Kids have the option to transfer when a coach leaves for this very reason.  This is his team now.  His a%* is on the line and he has the right to build the team he wants.   I can tell you first hand what it's like when a new college coach comes in that didn't recruit you.  You can either sit at the end of the bench and get the silent treatment or go to where you are wanted.    

It may make Dad mad, but Woody has plenty of Indiana support and winning will get him all the support he needs. 

And honestly, it’s not like it’d be the end of the world for the player who gets pushed out. I don’t mean to make light of it because it does stink for them, but Trey is a legitimate D1 player, unlike a guy like Grant Gelon who got pushed out. Trey will still land at a good school, get a free education, and play college basketball.

[Hurryin' Hoosiers]

1 hour ago, Chris007 said:

I found out last night that athletes are not allowed to have academic scholarships thanks to @Brass Cannon. Leal's parents work at IU so he would qualify for half off tution. 

Way to go brass cannon, ruined academic scholarships for our athletes lol

[ap2345]

9 minutes ago, Hoosierfan22 said:

I wouldn’t mind Tre Mitchell

Is IU hiring Tony Bergeron? So that's a no. It will be interesting to see what happens with Mitchell but that's a strange situation. 

[IUfan_Charlie]

13 hours ago, madmax said:

I would honestly rather keep Galloway over getting any player. If the number one player in the country Chet Holmgren or whoever decided that he wanted to come I would still rather keep Galloway. He wanted to here and has seemingly never wavered from that. If that’s the difference between a trip to the E8 or S16 and a first round exit so be it.

This is an insane take. Unfathomable. 

[Hurryin' Hoosiers]

So we could bring crean in as an advisor to clear up roster space.

[Brass Cannon]

11 minutes ago, iuswingman said:

Way to go brass cannon, ruined academic scholarships for our athletes lol

Who needs the book learning anyway 

[IU Scott]

2 hours ago, Chris007 said:

I'm not sure where I stand on this but basically what I'm hearing is fans are happy with us not really using scholarships 12 and 13 for a couple of years. I put Galloway at 12, Leal at 13. Neither should be really playing on a team that is trying to compete to win a Big Ten title. But since they love IU and want to be here, we're ok with them riding the bench, getting better, and hoping they can contribute something in their senior year. If that is the stance I guess I'm OK with it. If you get anything before then it's a bonus. 

Well no team play 13 players and usually have a rotation of 9 players so why not have a couple of guys at the end of the bench who wants to be at IU.

[ebridges24]

27 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

Totally agree. My wife had this happen to her after her sophomore year. The new coach said you will sit at the end of the bench and life will be terrible or you can transfer. She thought it was a bluff so she stayed. She went from the 6th man to no playing time and being told to quit the other sport she was playing her junior year. Her senior year her athletic scholarship was taken away and was no longer part of the basketball team. She paid her own way her last semester and left the state of Kentucky for good. 

Coaches want their own people on staff and on the team. 

That is such a crock of sh!t, I hate hearing things like that.

[Hoosierfanyuh]

52 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

Someone is going to leave before the start of next season on their own because they are going to realize they are not going to play much. 

Wish more people would realize this

[DChoosier]

2 hours ago, iu eyedoc said:

Not sure your point, every teams 12th and 13th man just rides the pines. Almost every team only goes 8 or 9 deep for over 5 min/G PT. Leal and Galloway could easily be a12 and 13 on a B1G and NCAA championship team. If one leaves for Brooks, someone else will move down a notch and  lose PT to  Brooks or Brooks won't get the PT he wants and that is the guy that will most likely be an unhappy teammate.

I see a bigger potential problem with Hunter going from 20 min/G to 12-17 or Rob Phin 27 to 15ish. Galloway has to see the reduced minutes coming, but it will be a much harsher reality for an upperclassman to except graciously.

I agree and have been thinking (with zero inside knowledge) that Hunter would be more likely to move on.  I’m not saying that I want Hunter, or any of the other players, to leave but I would guess that towards the end of last year he assumed he would be a major minutes guy this season.  Major minutes are no longer assured, to say the least, and he might not accept that (I say “might not” because I have no idea what his mindset is).

One would think that Leal and Galloway have more of a “I’m not going to see a ton of minutes this year” mindset and, since they seem to really love IU, they might accept that. If they stay the unknown will be how long they remain happy if minutes continue to look bleak their junior and senior years. Who knows, but the portal will make things “interesting” every year.

[ebridges24]

It's great to have a new coach like Woody, we won't have to worry about losing recruits like Brooks and Kaufman to UK and PU any more.

[IU Scott]

8 minutes ago, Hoosierfanyuh said:

Wish more people would realize this

Even if someone would leave the perception will be that they were pushed out to make room for Brooks.  I don't see why people worry so much about the 12th and 13th spot on the roster.  Look at the roster of our last championship team and see how many actually played any significant minutes.

Steve Alford	SR	G	6-2	22.0 Pts, 2.6 Reb, 3.6 Ast
Daryl Thomas	SR	F	6-7	15.7 Pts, 5.7 Reb, 0.8 Ast
Dean Garrett		C	6-10	11.4 Pts, 8.5 Reb, 0.6 Ast
Keith Smart		G	6-1	11.2 Pts, 2.9 Reb, 3.2 Ast
Rick Calloway		F	6-6	12.6 Pts, 4.3 Reb, 2.6 Ast
Steve Eyl	JR	F	6-6	3.0 Pts, 3.4 Reb, 1.2 Ast
Joe Hillman	SO	G	6-2	2.5 Pts, 1.2 Reb, 2.1 Ast
Magnus Pelkowski	SO	C	6-10	3.8 Pts, 1.9 Reb, 0.1 Ast
Kreigh Smith		G	6-7	1.5 Pts, 0.8 Reb, 0.6 Ast
Tony Freeman		G	5-7	2.2 Pts, 0.9 Reb, 2.4 Ast
Brian Sloan	SO	F	6-8	2.1 Pts, 1.1 Reb, 0.5 Ast
Todd Meier	SR	F	6-8	1.1 Pts, 1.5 Reb, 0.2 Ast
Dave Minor		F	6-6	0.8 Pts, 0.8 Reb, 0.6 Ast
Jeff Oliphant	FR	G	6-5	1.5 Pts, 2.0 Reb, 0.5 Ast

[Hoosierfan2017]

4 minutes ago, IU Scott said:

Even if someone would leave the perception will be that they were pushed out to make room for Brooks.  I don't see why people worry so much about the 12th and 13th spot on the roster.  Look at the roster of our last championship team and see how many actually played any significant minutes.

Steve Alford	SR	G	6-2	22.0 Pts, 2.6 Reb, 3.6 Ast
Daryl Thomas	SR	F	6-7	15.7 Pts, 5.7 Reb, 0.8 Ast
Dean Garrett		C	6-10	11.4 Pts, 8.5 Reb, 0.6 Ast
Keith Smart		G	6-1	11.2 Pts, 2.9 Reb, 3.2 Ast
Rick Calloway		F	6-6	12.6 Pts, 4.3 Reb, 2.6 Ast
Steve Eyl	JR	F	6-6	3.0 Pts, 3.4 Reb, 1.2 Ast
Joe Hillman	SO	G	6-2	2.5 Pts, 1.2 Reb, 2.1 Ast
Magnus Pelkowski	SO	C	6-10	3.8 Pts, 1.9 Reb, 0.1 Ast
Kreigh Smith		G	6-7	1.5 Pts, 0.8 Reb, 0.6 Ast
Tony Freeman		G	5-7	2.2 Pts, 0.9 Reb, 2.4 Ast
Brian Sloan	SO	F	6-8	2.1 Pts, 1.1 Reb, 0.5 Ast
Todd Meier	SR	F	6-8	1.1 Pts, 1.5 Reb, 0.2 Ast
Dave Minor		F	6-6	0.8 Pts, 0.8 Reb, 0.6 Ast
Jeff Oliphant	FR	G	6-5	1.5 Pts, 2.0 Reb, 0.5 Ast

This picture doesn’t show how many minutes any of those guys played.

[DChoosier]

52 minutes ago, VO5 said:

I think we’ll see a guard leave. No clue who it will be, but I have a guess. 

I agree.
Don’t know who might leave but a few weeks ago, if you were an IU guard, Franklin probably told you he was leaving which meant a lot of available Durham/Franklin minutes for this upcoming season and then........here come Johnson and Bates to eat up a ton of those minutes.
It would not be a shocker if a player that sincerely stated he was looking forward to playing for Woody next season is now wondering if he will see more than 5-8 minutes a game. Don’t think the roster is set yet.

[IU Scott]

4 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

This picture doesn’t show how many minutes any of those guys played.

Remember watching every game and that team played 7 players most of the time with Eyle and Hillman getting minutes off the bench.  

Per Game

Rk	Player	G	GS	MP	FG	FGA	FG%	2P	2PA	2P%	3P	3PA	3P%	FT	FTA	FT%	TRB	AST	STL	BLK	TOV	PF	PTS
1	Steve Alford	34	34	37.0	7.1	14.9	.474	3.9	9.0	.438	3.1	5.9	.530	4.7	5.3	.889	2.6	3.6	1.1	0.1	1.9	1.5	22.0
2	Daryl Thomas	34	34	30.0	5.9	10.9	.538	5.9	10.9	.538	0.0	0.0		4.0	5.1	.786	5.7	0.8	1.3	0.4	2.1	2.9	15.7
3	Rick Calloway	29	27	30.0	5.0	9.5	.531	5.0	9.5	.531	0.0	0.0		2.5	3.3	.742	4.3	2.6	1.1	0.2	2.3	2.7	12.6
4	Dean Garrett	34	33	28.0	4.8	8.9	.542	4.8	8.9	.542	0.0	0.0		1.8	2.8	.635	8.5	0.6	0.5	2.7	1.2	2.7	11.4
5	Keith Smart	34	31	26.0	4.4	8.4	.517	4.0	7.4	.538	0.4	1.0	.364	2.2	2.6	.841	2.9	3.2	0.9	0.1	2.2	3.0	11.2
6	Magnus Pelkowski	14	1	8.0	1.7	3.3	.522	1.6	3.1	.512	0.1	0.2	.667	0.2	0.4	.600	1.9	0.1	0.1	0.2	0.5	1.6	3.8
7	Steve Eyl	34	1	17.0	1.0	1.6	.648	1.0	1.6	.648	0.0	0.0		0.9	1.4	.674	3.4	1.2	0.5	0.2	0.8	1.3	3.0
8	Joe Hillman	32	5	13.0	0.9	1.8	.483	0.8	1.7	.509	0.0	0.2	.200	0.7	1.0	.742	1.2	2.1	0.3	0.1	0.9	1.4	2.5
9	Tony Freeman	16	0	10.0	0.6	1.5	.417	0.6	1.3	.450	0.1	0.3	.250	0.9	1.3	.700	0.9	2.4	0.6	0.0	1.2	1.0	2.2
10	Brian Sloan	17	1	7.0	0.8	1.7	.448	0.8	1.6	.464	0.0	0.1	.000	0.5	1.1	.500	1.1	0.5	0.2	0.2	0.4	0.9	2.1
11	Jeff Oliphant	2	0	3.0	0.0	0.0		0.0	0.0		0.0	0.0		1.5	2.5	.600	2.0	0.5	0.0	0.0	0.5	0.5	1.5
12	Kreigh Smith	25	1	8.0	0.5	1.0	.500	0.2	0.6	.313	0.3	0.3	.875	0.2	0.3	.857	0.8	0.6	0.2	0.0	0.2	0.5	1.5
13	Todd Meier	29	0	7.0	0.3	0.7	.450	0.3	0.7	.450	0.0	0.0		0.4	0.8	.591	1.5	0.2	0.2	0.0	0.5	1.2	1.1
14	Dave Minor	18	2	6.0	0.3	1.1	.250	0.3	1.1	.250	0.0	0.0		0.3	0.4	.714	0.8	0.6	0.0	0.0	0.7	0.5	0.8

 

[Hoosierfan2017]

1 minute ago, IU Scott said:

Remember watching every game and that team played 7 players most of the time with Eyle and Hillman getting minutes off the bench.  Without looking I think every starter played 34+ minutes a game.

I just looked and they had 8 guys play 10+ mpg, with each starter playing 28 mpg or more. Alford played 37 mpg.

[IU Scott]

5 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

I just looked and they had 8 guys play 10+ mpg, with each starter playing 28 mpg or more. Alford played 37 mpg.

You also need to look  at the amount of games played because a lot of them did not play in every game.  box score of the 87 championship game.

	Basic Box Score Stats
Starters	MP	FG	FGA	FG%	2P	2PA	2P%	3P	3PA	3P%	FT	FTA	FT%	ORB	DRB	TRB	AST	STL	BLK	TOV	PF	PTS
School Totals	200	30	62	.484	23	51	.451	7	11	.636	7	12	.583	6	25	31	20	7	3	11	17	74
Steve Alford	40	8	15	.533	1	5	.200	7	10	.700	0	0		1	2	3	5	2	0	3	2	23
Daryl Thomas	40	8	18	.444	8	18	.444	0	0		4	7	.571	1	6	7	1	0	0	3	1	20
Keith Smart	35	9	15	.600	9	14	.643	0	1	.000	3	4	.750	0	5	5	6	2	0	2	2	21
Dean Garrett	33	5	10	.500	5	10	.500	0	0		0	0		3	7	10	0	0	3	0	4	10
Rick Calloway	14	0	3	.000	0	3	.000	0	0		0	0		0	2	2	1	0	0	2	3	0
Reserves	MP	FG	FGA	FG%	2P	2PA	2P%	3P	3PA	3P%	FT	FTA	FT%	ORB	DRB	TRB	AST	STL	BLK	TOV	PF	PTS
Joe Hillman	20	0	1	.000	0	1	.000	0	0		0	0		1	1	2	6	3	0	0	2	0
Steve Eyl	13	0	0		0	0		0	0		0	0		0	1	1	1	0	0	1	2	0
Todd Meier	4	0	0		0	0		0	0		0	1	.000	0	1	1	0	0	0	0	0	0
Kreigh Smith	1	0	0		0	0		0	0		0	0		0	0	0	0	0	0	0	1	0

[GloryDays]

1 hour ago, Chris007 said:

Totally agree. My wife had this happen to her after her sophomore year. The new coach said you will sit at the end of the bench and life will be terrible or you can transfer. She thought it was a bluff so she stayed. She went from the 6th man to no playing time and being told to quit the other sport she was playing her junior year. Her senior year her athletic scholarship was taken away and was no longer part of the basketball team. She paid her own way her last semester and left the state of Kentucky for good. 

Coaches want their own people on staff and on the team. 

This starts out rough but her leaving Ky for good actually turns it into a feel good story.

[woodenshoemanHoosierfan]

Likelihood of Brooks transferring to IU, ready set go

I don't think it will

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[Hoosierfan2017]

10 minutes ago, IU Scott said:

You also need to look  at the amount of games played because a lot of them did not play in every game.  box score of the 87 championship game.

	Basic Box Score Stats
Starters	MP	FG	FGA	FG%	2P	2PA	2P%	3P	3PA	3P%	FT	FTA	FT%	ORB	DRB	TRB	AST	STL	BLK	TOV	PF	PTS
School Totals	200	30	62	.484	23	51	.451	7	11	.636	7	12	.583	6	25	31	20	7	3	11	17	74
Steve Alford	40	8	15	.533	1	5	.200	7	10	.700	0	0		1	2	3	5	2	0	3	2	23
Daryl Thomas	40	8	18	.444	8	18	.444	0	0		4	7	.571	1	6	7	1	0	0	3	1	20
Keith Smart	35	9	15	.600	9	14	.643	0	1	.000	3	4	.750	0	5	5	6	2	0	2	2	21
Dean Garrett	33	5	10	.500	5	10	.500	0	0		0	0		3	7	10	0	0	3	0	4	10
Rick Calloway	14	0	3	.000	0	3	.000	0	0		0	0		0	2	2	1	0	0	2	3	0
Reserves	MP	FG	FGA	FG%	2P	2PA	2P%	3P	3PA	3P%	FT	FTA	FT%	ORB	DRB	TRB	AST	STL	BLK	TOV	PF	PTS
Joe Hillman	20	0	1	.000	0	1	.000	0	0		0	0		1	1	2	6	3	0	0	2	0
Steve Eyl	13	0	0		0	0		0	0		0	0		0	1	1	1	0	0	1	2	0
Todd Meier	4	0	0		0	0		0	0		0	1	.000	0	1	1	0	0	0	0	0	0
Kreigh Smith	1	0	0		0	0		0	0		0	0		0	0	0	0	0	0	0	1	0

Yeah, I mean, that makes sense. On that IU team they had 7 guys play about every game and play more then 10 mpg. Baylor this year had a rotation of 8 guys playing 15+ mpg. Gonzaga had 6 guys playing 15+ mpg. We’ll probably have about 8-9 guys playing that much this upcoming year.