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Analysis: Where should IU be seeded in the NCAA Tournament?


IndyHutch
  • I don't think IU has necessarily fallen off of the No. 3 line. At least one Bracketologist agrees with me. What do you think? Here is my take.

It’s the question foremost on the minds of Indiana University basketball fans everywhere.

 

Where will Indiana be seeded when the NCAA unveils the 68-team 2016 tournament field in its Selection Sunday Show on Sunday?

 

A lot of people felt that Indiana was a No. 3 seed heading into Friday’s quarterfinal round of the Big Ten Tournament. After the buzzer beating 72-69 loss to Michigan, however, the sentiment was that IU may have slipped a spot to a No. 4 seed.

 

The sentiment was also that instead of playing closer to home Indiana might have to travel a distance for the first two games.

 

So what do you think?

 

Let’s begin with the seed itself. Should Indiana be a No. 3 or a No. 4? My guess is that it will be one or the other.

 

I’m still not convinced that Indiana has slipped off of the No. 3 line. While I think a win in the Big Ten Tournament would have improved IU’s chances to stay there, I’m just not certain that Friday’s lost was damaging enough to force the Hoosiers to fall. Michigan is not a bad team. In fact, those that think the Wolverines are still on the outside looking in after the loss to Purdue Saturday may have another thing coming.

 

I think the Wolverines have proven themselves worthy to be an NCAA Tournament team.

 

So what do the Bracketologists say?

 

ESPN’s Joe Lunardi has Indiana as a No. 4 seed facing No. 13 Chattanooga in Spokane, Wash. On the other side of that tandem is No. 5 California and No. 12 South Dakota State.

 

CBS Sports.com’s Jerry Palm has the Hoosiers also on the 4 line but has them in Oklahoma City where they would face No. 13 Yale. The other game there is No. 5 Iowa State and No. 12 Little Rock.

 

A third Bracketologist, Shelby Mast of USA Today, has Indiana as a No. 3 seed and facing No. 14 Middle Tennessee State in Des Moines. The other game there is No. 6 Notre Dame versus a play-in winner.

 

So the Bracketologists are far from a consensus in this regard, too. Plus, after last year I’m not sure what to believe. Remember last season when Joe Lunardi had Indiana on the outside looking in in his final bracket before the show and then the Hoosiers not only turned out to be in but they were in as a No. 10 seed and weren’t sweating as much as Lunardi would have had them sweat.

 

It also didn’t hurt that Indiana was announced in one of the first brackets revealed on TV. It’s always nice when you’re on the bubble to not have to wait until that final region is revealed.
If Indiana is a 4 seed, let’s look at some of the other potential 13 seeds out there. Lunardi’s other 13’s are Stephen F. Austin, Stony Brook and Northern Iowa. Palm has Stony Brook, South Dakota State and Northern Iowa. Mast has Akron, Yale, Iona and South Dakota State.

 

So how has Indiana fared as a No. 4 seed in the past?

 

The most recent time was 2012 when the Hoosiers were a No. 4 seed in Portland, won two games and lost to Kentucky in the Sweet Sixteen in Atlanta.

 

Prior to that it was the 2001 NCAA Tournament, the first for then interim coach Mike Davis. IU lost to No. 13 seed Kent State in that one. It also wasn’t good in 1988 when the No. 4 seeded Hoosiers lost to Richmond. In 1984, IU won two games as the No. 4 seed.

 

The only time IU has been a No. 3 seed was a bad NCAA Tournament memory for the Hoosiers. IU lost in 1986 to Cleveland State.

 

So I still think it’s up in the air between a 3 and a 4 seed. It will depend on what the committee thinks about the Big Ten. Let’s just say I won’t be surprised if come Sunday the Hoosiers are a 3 seed in the NCAA Tournament.

 

But like always I want to know what you think.

 

Where do you think Indiana will be seeded on Sunday?


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BlueDevil

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Lunardi makes me laugh with Duke Maryland and UNC all in the top half of the east
cjvz20

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We should be a 3 before Utah just because we did win the big ten regular season with only three losses. But I know we will be a 4 rather drop to 6 then be the four. Would play better team as 6 but I think we can beat most of the 2 and 3 seeds
IndyHutch

Posted

This is kind of where I am, too. What IU did in the Big Ten was impressive, winning it outright by two games. You don't put them into free fall mode because of a buzzer-beating quarterfinal loss in the conference tournament.

 

I agree. Many were putting Indiana at the 3 before conference tournament. I think at worse Indiana drops to a 4. You don't win the big ten, and that at 2 games better, and get seeded worse than a 4 regardless of the schedule.

IndyHutch

Posted

It's amazing how much easier this all would have been if Indiana simply could have played the way it had in recent weeks when it faced a desperate Michigan team on Friday. Give Michigan credit though. They hit some big shots.

AKHoosier

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It's amazing how much easier this all would have been if Indiana simply could have played the way it had in recent weeks when it faced a desperate Michigan team on Friday. Give Michigan credit though. They hit some big shots.

 

Exactly, but I think eventually Robert Johnson's injury was just going to catch up with us at some point.  Friday was that day.

MadAboutIndiana

Posted

Exactly, but I think eventually Robert Johnson's injury was just going to catch up with us at some point. Friday was that day.


Be careful bringing reason into this.. Ha
Yogi'sBicep

Posted

4. Hope UVA isn't the 1 on our bracket...

if we play with a hot hand, we handle everyone excluding UVA and MSU.
Uspshoosier

Posted

If mich st wins today don't be surprised if uva is a 2 seed and Oregon is a 1 seed
IndyHutch

Posted

Actually I'd be OK with that.

 

 

4. Hope UVA isn't the 1 on our bracket...

IndyHutch

Posted

Right now Lunardi has IU as a 4 in the Midwest with Kansas as the 1.

 

His No. 1's are Kansas, Michigan State, North Carolina and Virginia. 

 

Which of those four No. 1's would you rather be paired with? Of the 4, I would probably take Virginia.

LIHoosier

Posted

Right now Lunardi has IU as a 4 in the Midwest with Kansas as the 1.

 

His No. 1's are Kansas, Michigan State, North Carolina and Virginia. 

 

Which of those four No. 1's would you rather be paired with? Of the 4, I would probably take Virginia.

The last one I would take is UVA. We would have no transition offense whatsoever and I don't think we'd be patient enough to play 25 seconds of defense every time down.

 

P.S. Go with Andy Bottoms, Lunardi is a hack.

Uspshoosier

Posted

Right now Lunardi has IU as a 4 in the Midwest with Kansas as the 1.

His No. 1's are Kansas, Michigan State, North Carolina and Virginia.

Which of those four No. 1's would you rather be paired with? Of the 4, I would probably take Virginia.

i would take North Carolina just because they would play at our pace or the 1 possible 1 seed u didn't mention Oregon( 22 top 100 wins) 12 of those being 50 wins only 2nd to Kansas
Five Prime

Posted

I don't think there is much debate here, 4 seed. Entering the Big Ten tourney our range was 2-4 seed. Win 1-2 games and we stay on 3 line. Win the championship and likely 2. Lose in the first round to a borderline tournament team and we are a 4.
biteoftheapple

Posted

#3 in the west. My grandma rides the church bus with someone who knows someone whose 3rd cousin is friend with someone who knows someone on the committee.

Write it down, Solid source.


Hey, I know that source. We went to different schools together.
LIHoosier

Posted

I wonder why our injuries would not be in consideration?

Well, we got better without JBJ and we were able to beat Iowa and Maryland without Rojo.

Also, lots of teams have minor injuries here and there throughout the season.




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