Transfer Portal w IU Interest

[RaceToTheTop]

3 hours ago, ebridges24 said:

Ante Brzovic all day, every day

He would have to win his lawsuit in order to get another year of eligibility.....and I would say his case really isn't that strong.  He's waiver was already denied by the NCAA and he's played four years of NCAA ball -- the first at a DII level.

Eddie Lampkin was a player IU inquired about that has a better chance of getting an extra year.  His case is basically the same as Leal's.

[Napleshoosier]

47 minutes ago, AZ Hoosier said:

Clearly you don’t do sarcasm …

Just stop the BS. Gezz man.

[WayneFleekHoosier]

Torvik which isn’t fully updated has us #38. Feels about right to me. Goode will bump us a bit. Tons of question marks heading into next season with a tough schedule to boot. Will be incredibly low on fanfare during the off-season. However, like Cig, if DeVries can win excitement will follow.


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[woodenshoemanHoosierfan]

I'm going to preface what I'm going to say with this. Leal(or anyone else) should get a sixth year unless they were injured unless they played 10 or less games.
I watched almost every game this past season. IMO, regardless what Leal and Goode said on Social Media or Senior Night speeches, they were the only ones who tried and played hard almost every game. At the very least a lot more than the rest of the team.

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[RaceToTheTop]

5 hours ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

Torvik which isn’t fully updated has us #38. Feels about right to me. Goode will bump us a bit. Tons of question marks heading into next season with a tough schedule to boot. Will be incredibly low on fanfare during the off-season. However, like Cig, if DeVries can win excitement will follow.


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Harris will also bump IU up.  For some reason he isn’t listed on the roster or in the available transfer pool.

FWIW, if you add Goode and Leal it moves IU into the 20s and that’s without adding Harris.

EDIT:  adding only Goode moves IU to 28.  Adding Goode and Leal moves IU to 24.  I would guess adding those two plus Harris puts IU around 20

[Juwan Moye]

Being a fringe top-25 team to possibly being a bubble team seems like the most likely range of outcomes for this team.
 

Obviously crazy things can happen to go more positive or negative but the Torvik rankings align with my own expectations heading into the season.

[Okram]

16 minutes ago, Juwan Moye said:

Being a fringe top-25 team to possibly being a bubble team seems like the most likely range of outcomes for this team.
 

Obviously crazy things can happen to go more positive or negative but the Torvik rankings align with my own expectations heading into the season.

Yep 20-40 is probably where the range of expectations should be. Better or the top end would obviously be great. Bottom end or worse could be painful. We will see. 

[Dave from Dayton]

3 hours ago, Okram said:

Yep 20-40 is probably where the range of expectations should be. Better or the top end would obviously be great. Bottom end or worse could be painful. We will see. 

Oh, I wouldn't refer to it as 'great' if we are ranked near 20 at year's end.  I would be pleasantly surprised....pleased, yes. It is CDD's first year here.  And the team as a team has a long way to go.  It will take some getting over some bumps (not humps)...and taking some lumps.  

Great would be in the Sweet 16 with a good showing there.  Great would include the team playing their hearts out routinely.  Great would be CDD showing his mettle and BB IQ.  Great would be the guards playing like they belonged in the competition for the top of the B1G.

Great would-be recruiting improvements for 2026 being experienced during the basketball season. ..and really building something towards another banner.

(Great would be a serious upgrade in referees and fairly calling games consistently home and away and in the first half and second half.  But I dream.  Never mind.)

I understand why some would say it is great.  Things are relative.  

To me, great is competing with the best routinely, and bringing it all home once in a while.

I am not going to accept all of the hype.  But I am intrigued.  And I will cheer the team.

My expectations are a little lower than others on this site.  I hate to admit that.  I usually am a positive...cup is half-full of BS..kind of guy.  I just do not think that we will get even a sight of that rabbit on the first try this season.   

[iu eyedoc]

5 hours ago, RaceToTheTop said:

Harris will also bump IU up.  For some reason he isn’t listed on the roster or in the available transfer pool.

FWIW, if you add Goode and Leal it moves IU into the 20s and that’s without adding Harris.

EDIT:  adding only Goode moves IU to 28.  Adding Goode and Leal moves IU to 24.  I would guess adding those two plus Harris puts IU around 20

If you add just Leal they go from 38 to 28.  Kinda shows the uselessness of such rankings.Though if Leal gets his extra, extra year he should definitely take a copy of the before and after Torvik ranking into his NIL discussions.

[Rico]

29 minutes ago, Dave from Dayton said:

Oh, I wouldn't refer to it as 'great' if we are ranked near 20 at year's end.  I would be pleasantly surprised....pleased, yes. It is CDD's first year here.  And the team as a team has a long way to go.  It will take some getting over some bumps (not humps)...and taking some lumps.  

Great would be in the Sweet 16 with a good showing there.  Great would include the team playing their hearts out routinely.  Great would be CDD showing his mettle and BB IQ.  Great would be the guards playing like they belonged in the competition for the top of the B1G.

Great would-be recruiting improvements for 2026 being experienced during the basketball season. ..and really building something towards another banner.

I understand why some would say it is great.  Things are relative.  

To me, great is competing with the best routinely, and bringing it all home once in a while.

I am not going to accept all of the hype.  But I am intrigued.  And I will cheer the team.

My expectations are a little lower than others on this site.  I hate to admit that.  I usually am a positive...cup is half-full of BS..kind of guy.  I just do not think that we will get that rabbit on the first try this season.   

[tyappleg]

5 hours ago, RaceToTheTop said:

Harris will also bump IU up.  For some reason he isn’t listed on the roster or in the available transfer pool.

FWIW, if you add Goode and Leal it moves IU into the 20s and that’s without adding Harris.

EDIT:  adding only Goode moves IU to 28.  Adding Goode and Leal moves IU to 24.  I would guess adding those two plus Harris puts IU around 20

Preseason top 25 you say?... nevermind. 

[Okram]

1 hour ago, Dave from Dayton said:

Oh, I wouldn't refer to it as 'great' if we are ranked near 20 at year's end.  I would be pleasantly surprised....pleased, yes. It is CDD's first year here.  And the team as a team has a long way to go.  It will take some getting over some bumps (not humps)...and taking some lumps.  

Great would be in the Sweet 16 with a good showing there.  Great would include the team playing their hearts out routinely.  Great would be CDD showing his mettle and BB IQ.  Great would be the guards playing like they belonged in the competition for the top of the B1G.

Great would-be recruiting improvements for 2026 being experienced during the basketball season. ..and really building something towards another banner.

I understand why some would say it is great.  Things are relative.  

To me, great is competing with the best routinely, and bringing it all home once in a while.

I am not going to accept all of the hype.  But I am intrigued.  And I will cheer the team.

My expectations are a little lower than others on this site.  I hate to admit that.  I usually am a positive...cup is half-full of BS..kind of guy.  I just do not think that we will get that rabbit on the first try this season.   

 

A good post. I just think considering the context of Indiana not finishing in the top 25 of Kenpom since 2016 that finishing 25th or better would be great. Michigan finished 21st as an example from last year. It was a great season for them after a rough patch.  2023-30th (with TJD!) and 2020-34th are the best Indiana efforts in a decade.

 

 

 

Edited May 6, 2025 by Okram

[str8baller]

2 hours ago, Okram said:

2023-30th (with TJD!) and 2020-34th are the best Indiana efforts in a decade.

Technically ‘16 was within the last ten seasons. But yea…that's a pathetic stretch.  

[RaceToTheTop]

14 hours ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

Torvik which isn’t fully updated has us #38. Feels about right to me. Goode will bump us a bit. Tons of question marks heading into next season with a tough schedule to boot. Will be incredibly low on fanfare during the off-season. However, like Cig, if DeVries can win excitement will follow.


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Just a FWIW, since I can't add Josh Harris to the roster on Torvik I added the most similarly rated power forward portal player on 247 that is currently unsigned (Doctor Bradley from Arkanas Pine-Bluff) and IU's ranking went from 38 to 31.  

If you then add Goode but not Leal (I am still very doubtful that Leal wins his appeal), IU moves to 24.

[lillurk]

2 minutes ago, RaceToTheTop said:

Just a FWIW, since I can't add Josh Harris to the roster on Torvik I added the most similarly rated power forward portal player on 247 that is currently unsigned (Doctor Bradley from Arkanas Pine-Bluff) and IU's ranking went from 38 to 31.  

If you then add Goode but not Leal (I am still very doubtful that Leal wins his appeal), IU moves to 24.

The Harris bug on Torvik is driving me insane. I’m genuinely glad you’ve mentioned it repeatedly because I know I’m not simply losing my mind

[DChoosier]

4 hours ago, iu eyedoc said:

If you add just Leal they go from 38 to 28.  Kinda shows the uselessness of such rankings.Though if Leal gets his extra, extra year he should definitely take a copy of the before and after Torvik ranking into his NIL discussions.

That is crazy. No offense to Leal but you really have to question a ranking that shows IU jumping 10 spots nationally by adding a bench guy.  Makes zero sense.

[HoosierHoopster]

1 hour ago, lillurk said:

The Harris bug on Torvik is driving me insane. I’m genuinely glad you’ve mentioned it repeatedly because I know I’m not simply losing my mind

But you may still be losing your mind….

[BA47591]

14 hours ago, woodenshoemanHoosierfan said:

I'm going to preface what I'm going to say with this. Leal(or anyone else) should get a sixth year unless they were injured unless they played 10 or less games.
I watched almost every game this past season. IMO, regardless what Leal and Goode said on Social Media or Senior Night speeches, they were the only ones who tried and played hard almost every game. At the very least a lot more than the rest of the team.

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I think Leal and Goode were defending their coach and team. Nothing wrong with that. If the culture of the team hadn't worn the majority of us out, topped off by making so little of the talent, that Leal and Goode are at a post game presser....

The fact that DD is interested in both coming back isn't a great look. Neither entered the portal and both requesting waivers, Leal just recently. This roster smh

[AH1971]

4 minutes ago, BA47591 said:

I think Leal and Goode were defending their coach and team. Nothing wrong with that. If the culture of the team hadn't worn the majority of us out, topped off by making so little of the talent, that Leal and Goode are at a post game presser....

The fact that DD is interested in both coming back isn't a great look. Neither entered the portal and both requesting waivers, Leal just recently. This roster smh

Eh not really. You could survive off the current roster alone if you had too. With keeping these two, you're essentially bringing back two B10 players with a wealth of experience. Goode is a very good volume shooter and Leal is a much better defender than people want to give credit for. Both are fairly low ceiling players but each have a pretty established floor, can't say the same for the majority of the roster which is pretty devoid of P5 experience. If Goode and Leal are your 8th and 9th guys, you're probably alright. 

[str8baller]

1 hour ago, DChoosier said:

That is crazy. No offense to Leal but you really have to question a ranking that shows IU jumping 10 spots nationally by adding a bench guy.  Makes zero sense.

A couple things likely drive that without knowing much about Torvik s exact formula. 1) Leal started about half the games last year, played 20mpg and has really good advanced metrics on defense and for things like WS.  
 

2) The teams ranked 20-40 are probably all grouped really close together. In other words, you might jump ten spots but statistically you still all group together as teams that will all finish at about the same place