(2024) PF - Derik Queen to Maryland

[IU_FanClub]

8 minutes ago, Bowhunter said:

Not saying it won’t happen, but I’m to the point where I won’t even watch recruit videos till they sign. 

I'm with you. My personal rule is to not watch anyone's highlights unless they have committed to IU to keep myself from getting too fired up lol.

[Tom White]

8 minutes ago, Bowhunter said:

Not saying it won’t happen, but I’m to the point where I won’t even watch recruit videos till they sign. 

It does seem that there is a whole bunch of stuff out there that is nothing more than a pile of click-bait.

[WayneFleekHoosier]

35 minutes ago, AKHoosier said:

How does Queen compare to Thomas Bryant? 

Haven't seen a ton of film, but the few highlights I've watched brought that comparison to mind somewhat. 

Athleticism is similiar relative to build, height, and verticality but Queen is much more fluid about his movements.  I think Queen will be the better player in the end but they have their similarities

 

[Stuhoo]

11 minutes ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

Athleticism is similiar relative to build, height, and verticality but Queen is much more fluid about his movements.  I think Queen will be the better player in the end but they have their similarities

 

I don't see the similarities in style - I guess there are height/weight similarities.

• Bryant was a little stiff, but excelled as a super-high motor guy with a solid distance jump shot. 
• Queen's strengths are unheard of court vision for a big, cleverness around the rim, and handle.

You know who Queen reminds me of in style (though Queen has a ton more upside)? Someone we barely ever got a sense of; a healthy DeRon Davis.

[Gnet550]

6 hours ago, Stuhoo said:

I don't see the similarities in style - I guess there are height/weight similarities.

• Bryant was a little stiff, but excelled as a super-high motor guy with a solid distance jump shot. 
• Queen's strengths are unheard of court vision for a big, cleverness around the rim, and handle.

You know who Queen reminds me of in style (though Queen has a ton more upside)? Someone we barely ever got a sense of; a healthy DeRon Davis.

I also see similarities between Queen and Malik…Queen just has a little more size 

[Demo]

6 hours ago, Stuhoo said:

I don't see the similarities in style - I guess there are height/weight similarities.

• Bryant was a little stiff, but excelled as a super-high motor guy with a solid distance jump shot. 
• Queen's strengths are unheard of court vision for a big, cleverness around the rim, and handle.

You know who Queen reminds me of in style (though Queen has a ton more upside)? Someone we barely ever got a sense of; a healthy DeRon Davis.

The comp that I’ve had for Queen for a while, though I don’t recall throwing it out there because it may not be universally viewed as a compliment, though it is to me, is a rich man’s Cam Krutwig, who was the center on Porter Moser’s Loyola team that went to the sweet 16 in ‘21. Strong, thick, super-skilled, below the rim 5 who doesn’t give you rim protection but has such great offensive value as a post scorer combined with a facilitation element that’s really rare. Could easily see him as a 5 asst/game guy playing in a system with a lot of motion. But he’d certainly be effective playing out of the post. His footwork will be so tough for a post defenders to deal with and he will punish doubles assuming he’s playing with shot makers. 

[Stromboli]

1 hour ago, Demo said:

The comp that I’ve had for Queen for a while, though I don’t recall throwing it out there because it may not be universally viewed as a compliment, though it is to me, is a rich man’s Cam Krutwig, who was the center on Porter Moser’s Loyola team that went to the sweet 16 in ‘21. Strong, thick, super-skilled, below the rim 5 who doesn’t give you rim protection but has such great offensive value as a post scorer combined with a facilitation element that’s really rare. Could easily see him as a 5 asst/game guy playing in a system with a lot of motion. But he’d certainly be effective playing out of the post. His footwork will be so tough for a post defenders to deal with and he will punish doubles assuming he’s playing with shot makers. 

YES. 
 

That’s the comp. And great callback to Krutwig. I had to watch him to understand the hype. A favorite NCAA basketball player over the past several years. 
 

How a big scores isn’t really the differentiator. Edey reaches over you. Reneau sticks his butt into you to create space for a lay-in. Trayce would just spin move around you so explosively that you’d be looking at the sideline while he’s dunking behind you. Regardless of the how, they are all bigs that can receive the entry pass then put the ball in the bucket. 
 

The comp here is floor vision and facilitation. Basically passing. And then as Demo noted below-the-rim craftiness to score as well. 
 

In my eye the two passing bigs we’ve had over the past couple coaches are TJD and Juwan. Both not only looked to pass, but actually created a shot for the passee.  Queen, to me, is that kind of big. Play through the middle. And I do feel like Woody is versatile in a way to really exploit that ability. 

[RaceToTheTop]

On 12/5/2023 at 3:42 PM, Stuhoo said:

I am much taller. And I'm also not Trilly...OR AM ??!!??

Maybe the real Trilly is the friends we made along the way.

[Class of '66 Old Fart]

Let's hope there's real fire behind this story and not just smoke.

https://hoosierillustrated.com/the-winds-have-shifted-towards-indiana-basketball-in-recruitment-of-key-2024-5-star-target/?fbclid=IwAR0lSE1SJBfWJmYg1JY_sNIO5yE-YKzxtCit75gAj9_Eg6JMvpP2dV4DJ10

[Alford Bailey]

Hope we land him. I take Queen over Flory easily.

[Demo]

13 minutes ago, Alford Bailey said:

Hope we land him. I take Queen over Flory easily.

Oh, now you’ve started something.

And I agree with you.

[Scotty R]

58 minutes ago, Demo said:

Oh, now you’ve started something.

And I agree with you.

Queen is definitely a more skilled offensive player

[BleedCubbieBlue]

2 hours ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

Let's hope there's real fire behind this story and not just smoke.

https://hoosierillustrated.com/the-winds-have-shifted-towards-indiana-basketball-in-recruitment-of-key-2024-5-star-target/?fbclid=IwAR0lSE1SJBfWJmYg1JY_sNIO5yE-YKzxtCit75gAj9_Eg6JMvpP2dV4DJ10

So just to be clear, "the winds have shifted towards Indiana" justified his post on 12/5, when he goes on to later acknowledge "As for a timeline, I don't believe we'll see it wrapped up before Christmas or even the new year"? Thanks for the breaking news, Walter Cronkite. Here is a bold prediction worthy of a Twitter post: I heard from someone at a Taco Bell, or a Dairy Queen, or maybe it was the drive-thru at a Chick-fil-a that Queen will or won't announce he is maybe, possibly, going to attend a university in Indiana, or maybe the midwest, or maybe somewhere else in America, and will or won't announce it today, or tomorrow, or possibly sometime in the future, if the future actually exists. #TimeIsAFlatCircle

[AZ Hoosier]

4 hours ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

Let's hope there's real fire behind this story and not just smoke.

https://hoosierillustrated.com/the-winds-have-shifted-towards-indiana-basketball-in-recruitment-of-key-2024-5-star-target/?fbclid=IwAR0lSE1SJBfWJmYg1JY_sNIO5yE-YKzxtCit75gAj9_Eg6JMvpP2dV4DJ10

Nothing like a little click-bait on a Friday afternoon to kick off Hanukkah.

[OGIUAndy]

6 minutes ago, AZ Hoosier said:

Nothing like a little click-bait on a Friday afternoon to kick off Hanukkah.

I don't think it's clickbait. 

[AZ Hoosier]

18 minutes ago, OGIUAndy said:

I don't think it's clickbait. 

Queen would be a great "get" for Woody, but the drama around all of these teenagers and their self-aggrandizing is too much for me (yeah, I'm old). I'm fine with something happening sooner (or later), but no more plane tracking for me... been burned several times... wake me when it's over.

[8bucks]

37 minutes ago, OGIUAndy said:

I don't think it's clickbait. 

Who is daily Hoosier and are they connected?  

[Stuhoo]

44 minutes ago, OGIUAndy said:

I don't think it's clickbait. 

The Daily Hoosier is Mike Schumann. He always keeps his powder dry. Him and Chronic Hoosier both sticking their necks out?

Damn that’s good to see.

[go iu bb]

1 hour ago, AZ Hoosier said:

Queen would be a great "get" for Woody, but the drama around all of these teenagers and their self-aggrandizing is too much for me (yeah, I'm old). I'm fine with something happening sooner (or later), but no more plane tracking for me... been burned several times... wake me when it's over.

With some of the recruits (like what's-his-face that just committed to Rutgers) I would agree with you.

Queen? No so much. He and his family have been very quiet during his recruitment. It's not his fault that other people follow every move closely, make claims that he's close to committing,  claim to know the school that leads, etc. I also can't fault him for taking his time to make what is a very big decision in his life.  To me, taking his time on the decision and keeping his process quiet actually shows some maturity. 

[8bucks]

38 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

The Daily Hoosier is Mike Schumann. He always keeps his powder dry. Him and Chronic Hoosier both sticking their necks out?

Damn that’s good to see.

I don’t remember either doing so last time with DQ so I am hopeful