General Coach Candidate News

[woodenshoemanHoosierfan]

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[8bucks]

5 hours ago, Redleader said:

I thought he was a scumbag due to the threats his staff made to Hanner Perea?

https://www.insidethehall.com/2010/10/12/baylor-in-hot-water-over-perea-recruitment/

He's appears to morally bankrupt, hiding behind that faux piety.  But that truly does not matter, if he can win here, right?

But, yes, everyone keep piling on the Sandwich for forgiving Alford his sins.

 

 

Fair point. I read a bunch of the Alford/Iowa stuff the last few days and have actually softened my stance on Alford. Still not my top guy and I would personally advise him to stay where he is but he does not have a history of this type of behavior. 
 

i also read a ton on Drew and feel fine with him. 
 

I would prefer we have a coach that can out coach anyone, recruit well and is a great guy.  That being said, I overlooked a lot of what RMK did because he won and i had some access to things he did that no one saw. He did so many things right and he did so many things wrong. 

[lillurk]

Nate Oats’s second year at Alabama so far: tenth in Kenpom (13th offense, 11th defense, 12th tempo). Write the check.

[MemphisHoosier]

Just now, lillurk said:

Nate Oats’s second year at Alabama so far: tenth in Kenpom (13th offense, 11th defense, 12th tempo). Write the check.

Welcome to the Oats train comrade!

[LamarCheeks]

Let me preface this by saying I realize this has a 0.00 percent chance of happening, because apparently, we tried it once and were rebuffed. Also, I'd guess a decent percentage of folks on this board would disagree with me, but if I could have my pick of whom I want to coach IU  ... 

Not Brad Stevens. 
Not Billy Donovan. 
Not Chris Beard.
Not Scott Drew.
Not Steve Alford. 
Not even Mike Krzyzewski.

I'd go with Tony Bennett -- 100 percent, hands down, he'd be my choice. I still think the alleged rationale of him not wanting to exist in the fish bowl that is IU is BS. I think he was pissed because we parted ways with his sister. 

He is pretty low-key, but he seems very comfortable in his own skin. He's very well spoken -- I think he'd be great at pressing the flesh and speaking to crowds. He's obviously very bright. He seems to have a great relationship with his players. He's very committed to his faith. I think all these qualities fit right in perfectly at IU. 

I've lived in Virginia for 20 years, so have had a pretty good glimpse of his teams -- and I love the way they play. Plus, he kept the Toiletmakers from the Final Four! 

The only thing I wonder: What in the hell would've happened had we been a 1 seed and lost to a 16 in the NCAAs! 

 

[kottke]

1 hour ago, Brass Cannon said:

Thad Matta is the guy I would pick for a number of reasons.  I would also want him to keep a successor on staff at all times. I want continuity 

I agree with this, assuming he actually wants to get back into coaching. My only question is if he would want to be the guy to replace Archie since they are longtime friends?

[Trish]

1 hour ago, lillurk said:

Nate Oats’s second year at Alabama so far: tenth in Kenpom (13th offense, 11th defense, 12th tempo). Write the check.

Calm down now.

I think I'll take a look at Chris before Nate. 

[Josh]

To those more stat savvy than me, what were Archie's offensive/defensive rankings while at Dayton?

[IUc2016]

11 minutes ago, Josh said:

To those more stat savvy than me, what were Archie's offensive/defensive rankings while at Dayton?

Per kenpom...

  

Year      overall        offense         defense

1             69               29                 160

2             67               28                  145

3             42               37                    72

4             42               75                    30

5             59               146                  15

6              39               53                   43

 

Offense numbers always worried me but thought he would recruit well enough at IU that it would be like his brother at Arizona and not really a problem. Not the case though. 

[Hoosier Guy]

I’ve said the same thing as Treesh. Give Stevens the farm

[Stuhoo]

2 minutes ago, Hoosier Guy said:

I’ve said the same thing as Treesh. Give Stevens the farm

 

Brad Stevens doesn't want the farm. He doesn't want the Indiana farm, he doesn't want Kentucky's farm, he doesn't want Duke's farm, he doesn't want Southwest Missouri State's farm.

He doesn't want to pretend to be fascinated by 16 year olds with inflated self-importance. He doesn't want to deal with handlers and shoe companies.

There is no farm that he wants, save for the land he currently farms in Boston.

 

[Loaded Chicken Sandwich]

I think if we get dragged across the floor tomorrow night and lose by 20+... There should either be a major discussion on the trip back to Bloomington or an Interim Coach named by the time they are back in Bloomington. 

[JaybobHoosier]

To me it seems like Thad Matta or Oats would be potentially great hires. If Matta is healthy and can stay that way (I have no idea what issues he had), then he is a huge hire IMO. He’s proven he can coach on big stages and be successful. Oats might be the up and comer IU would go after, but is having really good success at a decent major program.


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[HoosierAloha]

To me it seems like Thad Matta or Oats would be potentially great hires. If Matta is healthy and can stay that way (I have no idea what issues he had), then he is a huge hire IMO. He’s proven he can coach on big stages and be successful. Oats might be the up and comer IU would go after, but is having really good success at a decent major program.


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I believe it was back issues?

I believe Matta would have IU competing for Big Ten titles and runs in the dance.


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[Hoosier Guy]

36 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

 

Brad Stevens doesn't want the farm. He doesn't want the Indiana farm, he doesn't want Kentucky's farm, he doesn't want Duke's farm, he doesn't want Southwest Missouri State's farm.

He doesn't want to pretend to be fascinated by 16 year olds with inflated self-importance. He doesn't want to deal with handlers and shoe companies.

There is no farm that he wants, save for the land he currently farms in Boston.

 

I didn’t say he wants to do all of that again. I said a lot would have to be offered. Don’t quote me just to take my words out of context

[Brass Cannon]

Not trying to start an argument but is there anybody that’s still in the Archie camp?  To me that’s very telling even with Crean I feel he had inklings of support till the end. 

[Trish]

5 minutes ago, Brass Cannon said:

Not trying to start an argument but is there anybody that’s still in the Archie camp?  To me that’s very telling even with Crean I feel he had inklings of support till the end. 

I am! I believe I'm driving the Archie bandwagon. Can't say it's very full. Currently pulled over for a blown tire. 

[Trish]

15 minutes ago, HoosierAloha said:

I believe it was back issues?

I believe Matta would have IU competing for Big Ten titles and runs in the dance.


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Do we want a coach that hasn't coached since Obama was the president of the U.S.? 

[Str8Hoosiers]

9 minutes ago, Brass Cannon said:

Not trying to start an argument but is there anybody that’s still in the Archie camp?  To me that’s very telling even with Crean I feel he had inklings of support till the end. 

I am very barely hanging on.... I like his demeanor (I know some have this as a big negative), I like his defensive scheme, and I actually am in the camp that the offensive scheme isn't bad.... (we get the open looks, and I don't think that is schemed by the opposition to let us have them)....

BUT we have to Win! And that is something he hasn't been able to do consistently enough to keep me fully on the train.

I put a lot of it on the players, I put some on the other staff (Weight training etc), but as the Head Coach he has to get some (a lot some)...

 

This thread is the first I had heard of the players not really liking him (aside from some of the guys I considered trouble guys that he inherited)... but if the kids he is recruiting end up not liking him, if he is not approachable by his team, his guys, then that is a very big problem and would be enough to push me out of his camp.

[Magisterium]

2 hours ago, LamarCheeks said:

Let me preface this by saying I realize this has a 0.00 percent chance of happening, because apparently, we tried it once and were rebuffed. Also, I'd guess a decent percentage of folks on this board would disagree with me, but if I could have my pick of whom I want to coach IU  ... 

Not Brad Stevens. 
Not Billy Donovan. 
Not Chris Beard.
Not Scott Drew.
Not Steve Alford. 
Not even Mike Krzyzewski.

I'd go with Tony Bennett -- 100 percent, hands down, he'd be my choice. I still think the alleged rationale of him not wanting to exist in the fish bowl that is IU is BS. I think he was pissed because we parted ways with his sister. 

He is pretty low-key, but he seems very comfortable in his own skin. He's very well spoken -- I think he'd be great at pressing the flesh and speaking to crowds. He's obviously very bright. He seems to have a great relationship with his players. He's very committed to his faith. I think all these qualities fit right in perfectly at IU. 

I've lived in Virginia for 20 years, so have had a pretty good glimpse of his teams -- and I love the way they play. Plus, he kept the Toiletmakers from the Final Four! 

The only thing I wonder: What in the hell would've happened had we been a 1 seed and lost to a 16 in the NCAAs! 

 

IIRC some people close to the situation at the time indicated that it WAS because Bennett preferred a lower-key program and fanbase and not, in fact, because of how IU (i.e., Greenspan) treated his sister. I expect Bennett talked at length with his Dad about what coaching in the B1G 10, especially at a place like IU, would be like.

IMO Bennett never WAS coming to IU, and Beard never IS coming to IU; I strongly suspect that, if Archie struggles the rest of this season and again in 2021-22, then the pool of potential replacements will be more guys similar to what Archie was 5 years ago.

If so, I at least hope Dolson doesn't give them the same kind of sweetheart deal that Glass gave to Miller--no point in over-paying for mediocre results 2 times in a row. I think that money would be better spent at this point in time on the football program.