General Coach Candidate News

[RoadRage]

8 minutes ago, Kentuckysucks said:

We could do a lot worse.  He’d have us in the top 20 almost every year.  I do have concerns about his ceiling but he’s a very safe hire if Dusty says no.

Doyle, who is seldom right about anything, is shilling for him….yes he would be an upgrade over Woody and Archie, not sure how much better he is than Crean. I find him a very un-exciting hire.

[Golfman25]

1 hour ago, Scotty R said:

I will do you all a favor a leave this board 

This board is like a cult and the insiders are Jim Jones and and the others are the followers. If you question the leaders then the followers jump anyone who question the cult 

Have fun in fantasy land

This isn’t the airport.  You don’t have to announce your departure   

Over under on when he’s back?  :)

[iu eyedoc]

1 hour ago, Scotty R said:

I will do you all a favor a leave this board 

This board is like a cult and the insiders are Jim Jones and and the others are the followers. If you question the leaders then the followers jump anyone who question the cult 

Have fun in fantasy land

So, see you Tuesday-ish? Unfortunately, probably sooner.

[LamarCheeks]

1 hour ago, Truthhurts said:

I’m with you. It’s embarrassing and a bad joke that this many people believe any of this crap and that so many are willing to parse words of an obviously “not interested” statement to delude themselves into believing what their fragile egos want them to believe. No wonder we can’t have nice things as a program.  Good bye and good luck. 

We're a crappy basketball program because of what fans on a message board say? 

If people post things you think are false, that's fine. Feel free to say so. But if other people choose to believe it, how does that harm you? You don't need to trash people for that. 

If people wanna believe in Santa Claus or the Easter Bunny -- what effect does that have on you? If people wanna believe that Brad Stevens and Scott Dolson visited the "Breaking Bad" set or that Stevens is gonna sign a contract in early March -- what effect does that have on you? If you don't believe any of those things, fine. But you don't need to sh-t on others because they do. 

 

 

[JaybobHoosier]

17 minutes ago, AZ Hoosier said:

Wait... are you saying that Mike Woodson lied to us? For shame!

Lol, nicely done! That will go down as one of the worst quotes in IU basketball history imo. Calling the majority of the fan base not true fans because we don’t like less than mediocre results and coaching. 

[JSHoosier]

The fans aren't the problem, too many bad coaching hires is. If the fans were the problem then UK would be a raging dumpster fire, those fans would've rioted after hiring Woodson and burned the campus to the ground after year 4 was announced.

Cronin isn't the worst option, but with his buyout I have no interest. If we paid that buyout for someone like Cronin then we have decision makers that need therapy (if not a padded cell).

[Home Jersey]

21 minutes ago, RoadRage said:

Doyle, who is seldom right about anything, is shilling for him….yes he would be an upgrade over Woody and Archie, not sure how much better he is than Crean. I find him a very un-exciting hire.

Respectfully disagree, but I get being un-excited for Cronin. On paper, the similarities between him and Crean largely begin and end with both having made 4 S16s, with 1 turning into a F4 trip. However: 

• Cronin: 21 seasons, has made the tournament 14 times. Other than the COVID year where tournament was cancelled, Cronin made the tournament every year from 2010- the year before last. And this year he has UCLA back rolling. Career record 498-230 (.684)
• Crean: 22 seasons, made the tournament 9 times. From 2005-2008 he made 3 consecutive NCAA tourneys, the rest of his career he went to back to back tourneys 3 times. So he could not sustain success. Career record 403-306 (.568)

Cronin is 53, Crean is 58. There is a reason one is still coaching and the other isn't. Cronin is a markedly better coach IMO, albeit not the most exciting by a longshot. 

[Golfman25]

48 minutes ago, normandale97 said:

The odds of finding a coach to win multiple national titles is slim to none. It's difficult to win in the tournament. If we get a coach that has us in the big10 title race and in the NCAA tournament every single year...that's better than anything this program has seen in 25 years. 

As I have stated the tournament is a numbers game.  Need a coach you can get there consistently — basically every year, or 9 of 10 at least.  Then if he gets to the second weekend on a regular basis, you got your man.  It is a lot of “luck” to go from there.  More times you’re in, more likely to break thru.  

[Hoosierfan2017]

Some of these dudes are turning btownbanners into a creative writing seminar. 

[Chris007]

1 hour ago, Uspshoosier said:

See you tomorrow or even in about 5 hrs when you are back in here posting.  Or when you create a new account and post from it   
 

Mods put a disclaimer in this thread that the information in here may or may not turn out to be true and it’s up to the individual poster to decide 

I’m pretty sure truth hurts is NGW. I put a trap out last night but they didn’t take the bait. But the post style is the same and quit and leave a lot a like.

[Hoosier Guy]

3 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

I’m pretty sure truth hurts is NGW. I put a trap out last night but they didn’t take the bait. But the post style is the same and quit and leave a lot a like.

Who is NGW?

[LamarCheeks]

57 minutes ago, TTT said:

Steve 

For sure, that would make things interesting ...

[Uspshoosier]

13 minutes ago, normandale97 said:

This is a genuine question. What are your expectations for postseason success for the new coach?

For such a simple question this is a very complex answer from an IU fan perspective.   For the old timers that have seen IU in its prime and know IU can and has done better then where they are currently they want a home run hire that gets them back to that point in IUs history as fast as possible.  Watching the decline of a once proud and storied program has been very difficult and honestly sad to watch. Hard to accept the results that  IU isn’t even a top half program in the B1G what alone what they are nationally.   IU results wise is just another program closer to Kansas St than they are Kansas.   Ius younger fans just want to see IU actually make the tourney on a consistent basis.  If you are a 20 year old fan you have seen IU play in the second weekend only 3 times in your lifetime and never in an elite 8.  All they want I’m guessing is a coach that consistently makes the tourney so at least they got a chance of making it to sweet 16s.  
 

IU as a program is in a really uncomfortable spot if you are a fan of the program.   Whoever Dolson ends up going with will possibly be the most important hire IU basketball has made in a while.   2 back to back complete failures put more pressure on the program to get it right.    Play it safe and hire a top coach that will bring stability back to a program that has underachieved for far too long or take a gamble at a higher risk option that could turn out to be the face of your program for the next 25 years.  Glad I’m not the one making the choice.  Either way I will be in here supporting whoever it is when they are hired 

[RaceToTheTop]

50 minutes ago, MrBBall said:

If May takes this team to a protected top 4 seed, he is absolutely a top 20 coach. 

But could also be awhile before negotiations could take place

[pumpfake]

9 hours ago, IsaacTor said:

Just had a long sit down with a buddy getting a full update. As of now the plan is to have brad sign the contract on March 2nd. He wants to essentially finish his season as a GM with the Celtics which mainly ends in March 1st as a GM. The verbal agreement still stands but he does not want any announcement until after that point. So the signing Monday won't occur but this is all but locked down. Contract is 6 years 67 million and brad has an option to extend to 10 years after year 3. Includes promises towards IU funded NIL and assistant pools but I don't know the value behinds those numbers. 

Just be patient. Hate me because of Goodman's tweet but there is a reason for all this optimism and it's that Brad still is a verbal agreement with IU and both IU and Stevens camp agree to all contract terms. 

 

I love this if for no other reason than it keeps the pot stirring....it's fun!

[LamarCheeks]

56 minutes ago, Hippopotamo said:

My middle school basketball coach would be an upgrade. That doesn’t mean Cronin is worth getting excited about. 

 

51 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

For some people he isn’t worth getting excited about but for others he might 

I gotta draw the line somewhere -- I just cannot get excited about Hippo's middle school coach. 

[Rico]

11 minutes ago, Home Jersey said:

Respectfully disagree, but I get being un-excited for Cronin. On paper, the similarities between him and Crean largely begin and end with both having made 4 S16s, with 1 turning into a F4 trip. However: 

• Cronin: 21 seasons, has made the tournament 14 times. Other than the COVID year where tournament was cancelled, Cronin made the tournament every year from 2010-last year. And this year he has UCLA back rolling. Career record 498-230 (.684)
• Crean: 22 seasons, made the tournament 9 times. From 2005-2008 he made 3 consecutive NCAA tourneys, the rest of his career he went to back to back tourneys 3 times. So he could not sustain success. Career record 403-306 (.568)

Cronin is 53, Crean is 58. There is a reason one is still coaching and the other isn't. Cronin is a markedly better coach IMO, albeit not the most exciting by a longshot. 

You can throw stats at me all day until you are blue in the face and it won't change my mind.  NO to moanin' Cronin.

[Juwan Moye]

21 minutes ago, RoadRage said:

Doyle, who is seldom right about anything, is shilling for him….yes he would be an upgrade over Woody and Archie, not sure how much better he is than Crean. I find him a very un-exciting hire.

The Crean highs without the lows would be a very good result given what we’ve endured for the last decade.

Given todays NIL landscape, and that IU is much better than UCLA in that regard, that should be the base expectation for a Cronin type hire. 

[Chris007]

4 minutes ago, Hoosier Guy said:

Who is NGW?

I might have the letters mixed up but a former poster

[pumpfake]

4 hours ago, HinnyHoosier said:

Speaking of humps and all star games....

How about Mac McClung dunking over anything he wanted last night. Definitely could have made it over the hump. Off topic, sorry. But dang.

 

Further OT, but when I saw highlights of him as a HS player I hoped we'd find a way to get him, even if he was a one-trick pony.  He's stuck around the NBA so he's shown he's more than that.