General Coach Candidate News

[CSP]

McCallum? Like Ray? 

[EasyEJay]

8 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

1. Otzelberger 

2.  Drew 

3.  McDermott 

4.  Williams 

5.  DeVries

6.   Collins 

7.  Byington

8.  McCallum 

Personally I’d flip Collins and Williams . Purely on the fact that Collins IMO could recruit the state better (he’s gotten some good Indiana players over the years ) 

then I’d boot McCallum altogether look at Sprinkle right now at Washington . The 3 seasons prior to getting Washington : 

Montana State - 27-8 

Montana State - 25-10 

Utah State - 28-7 

I’d be hesitant if I was Iowa . One impressive year in the Mo Valley doesn’t make you ready in the slightest for the Big Ten . 
 

A solid list! 

[Uspshoosier]

2 minutes ago, EasyEJay said:

then I’d boot McCallum altogether

For me if you get through the first 7 with a no from them then as a program then you might as well swing at the highest risk but highest reward young coach that is available.    No doubt he can coach. D2 resume is as impressive as you can get.  If you catch lighting in the bottom and he can produce those results you are set as a program for 20 + years.  

[Silat Player]

21 minutes ago, MikeRoberts said:

You said I wouldn’t be happy with Stevens and that isn’t true. It’s fine.

as for realistic, someone like Pearl could be just as realistic as Stevens had our focus been there. The focus has been on Stevens and that is a decision Dolson made. It might work out great, i hope it does. I just see no way a guy like Pearl comes here and doesn’t have us competing at the top of the bigten and cbb.

I just want to win and think there are guys that are no brainers that are hot and have been hot when it comes to CBB that we should be prioritizing. Stevens was that guy for me 12 years ago.

 

I'm trying to figure out what Pearl would gain by making the move to IU. I remember him being mentioned during the last coaching search when Woody was hired too, but there's zero reason he would move now. 

He has Auburn rolling. They are in the SEC and have a very successful football program. I'm sure they have money. He has them at number 1 and they should compete for the title this year, so obviously he can win big there. 

And he's not from Indiana, nor did he go to school in this state. I get that he coached in the state at one time, but that seems pretty minor.

What is the draw of moving at his age to IU?

I don't get it...

 

[Uspshoosier]

2 minutes ago, Silat Player said:

What is the draw of moving at his age to IU

All depend on his personal preference.   If he sees his career dwindling down and wants a shot to build back up a national brand then a coach could make the move despite being a power at a football school.    Maybe if they flame out early in the tourney he might move on to IU if he felt Auburn wasn’t giving him the best chance to win moving forward.   No one knows.  But my opinion would be he has a good thing rolling at Auburn despite being at a football school and he is going to have that set up for his son to take over after he retires 

[Hippopotamo]

Some of you guys argue like we’re the ones running the coaching search

[pumpfake]

14 minutes ago, Hippopotamo said:

Some of you guys argue like we’re the ones running the coaching search

True.  And also like we (most of us) have any true insight into the search

[go iu bb]

9 hours ago, RaceToTheTop said:

Exactly how many former GMs do you think college's hire?  It's a position new to colleges, not like you pull up some former college GM and bring him in.

This is true. The college GM position is also much different than an NBA GM role. I think UNC has the right idea by getting an agent to fill that role. It needs to be someone that can manage contracts as well as recruit. I think the role might also be raising money for NIL and/or trying to find NIL opportunities for the players. 

Someone with an agent background seems like a good fit.

[go iu bb]

9 hours ago, moyemayhem said:

The track record of college coaches leaving for the NBA and then returning to college is decidedly NOT a disaster.  Pitino, Calipari, Sampson, Lon Kruger, Larry Brown, Mike Montgomery, and Hoiberg to name a few off the top of my head.  All were quite successful after their return to college, other than Hoiberg (who is still TBD).

I'd say some of them were even better because of the experience. Sampson is one of those. He was already a good coach but he's even better after his time in the NBA. That may be due to him being an assistant coach instead of head coach, though. It gave him an opportunity to learn from guys like Popovich.

[HoosierHoopster]

34 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

For me if you get through the first 7 with a no from them then as a program then you might as well swing at the highest risk but highest reward young coach that is available.    No doubt he can coach. D2 resume is as impressive as you can get.  If you catch lighting in the bottom and he can produce those results you are set as a program for 20 + years.  

Personally I’m holding out hope for Otz or Drew. Land either and imo we’re a monster program again quickly 

[IndianaSconnie90]

1 hour ago, MikeRoberts said:

You serious? Someone posted that the nba was closer to the college game then ever before: I agree in some ways but that same rational was used to hire Woodson and all of these other former nba guys and it hasn’t panned out in most cases.

troll better?

No it wasn't. Stop being disingenuous. When I say the NBA and college are closer than ever before to one another, I'm talking about "paying players to play", not the X's and O's. Woodson wasn't hired because he was an average/below average NBA coach, though his connections were probably the best thing going for him. He was hired, in large part, as a favor to Quinn Buckner. Nothing about the hiring of Woodson should concern anybody about a potential hiring of Stevens, that's a joke. You're comparing applies to cow ****. 

[IndianaSconnie90]

41 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

For me if you get through the first 7 with a no from them then as a program then you might as well swing at the highest risk but highest reward young coach that is available.    No doubt he can coach. D2 resume is as impressive as you can get.  If you catch lighting in the bottom and he can produce those results you are set as a program for 20 + years.  

I would say 8, but yeah, after that you don't really have any choice. Hire McColum and hope like hell he doesn't turn out to be just a really good mid major coach

[OGIUAndy]

7 minutes ago, go iu bb said:

I'd say some of them were even better because of the experience. Sampson is one of those. He was already a good coach but he's even better after his time in the NBA. That may be due to him being an assistant coach instead of head coach, though. It gave him an opportunity to learn from guys like Popovich.

Like I mentioned the other day, very few former NBA head coaches with no previous college hc experience, coach in college. There are a lot of examples of good to great college coaches doing poorly in the NBA and going back to college. I think some people are confusing former NBA players doing poorly as college head coaches recently. 

[AZ Hoosier]

1 hour ago, Gameface01 said:

I don't need to keep recycling who's better or obtainable. Speculating future success..

It's Brad or Beard. Nothing else matters. 

if those are the only two choices for you, then your team probably won't have a coach... The chance of Brad coming are extremely low... and the chance of facial hair is zero.

[AZ Hoosier]

1 hour ago, Uspshoosier said:

1. Otzelberger 

2.  Drew 

3.  McDermott 

4.  Williams 

5.  DeVries

6.   Collins 

7.  Byington

8.  McCallum

I'd move DeVries up a couple of spots... right behind Drew... but that's just my take on it.

[Hoosierfan2017]

Guys like Calipari and Pitino went to the NBA for a few years and then came back to college. Stevens coached at Butler for 6 years. He left college basketball 12 years ago and left coaching entirely 4 years ago. 

Sure, if you can get him then great. But absolutely nothing in his background suggests he’s the guy who’s going to come back to the college game and grind year in and year out for the next 20 years. 

If IU’a gonna beg and plead for a coach to come here, do that with an elite college coach who wants to coach college basketball. 

[Hoosierfan1901]

Happy March 2nd Day!

[TheWatShot]

14 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

Guys like Calipari and Pitino went to the NBA for a few years and then came back to college. Stevens coached at Butler for 6 years. He left college basketball 12 years ago and left coaching entirely 4 years ago. 

Sure, if you can get him then great. But absolutely nothing in his background suggests he’s the guy who’s going to come back to the college game and grind year in and year out for the next 20 years. 

If IU’a gonna beg and plead for a coach to come here, do that with an elite college coach who wants to coach college basketball. 

Calipari got fired and Pitino quit midseason. Guys usually don't leave the NBA for college if they're successful, which Stevens has been. 

[Hoosierfan2017]

6 minutes ago, TheWatShot said:

Calipari got fired and Pitino quit midseason. Guys usually don't leave the NBA for college if they're successful, which Stevens has been. 

Brad Stevens quit too for a non-coaching job. What in his background suggests he wants to come grind the way a top college coach needs to grind? He quit his NBA coaching job 4 years ago, and that gig is less of a daily grind, involves minimal “recruiting ,” and comes with a months long, defined offseason. 

[Truthhurts]

My current wish list among those with any realistic chance (though admittedly some of these are quite unlikely): 

1) Tommy L (by a mile)

2) Ben M

2) Drew (seems *super* unlikely)

3) Otz

4) McCasland

5) DeVries

6) Jans

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7) miscellaneous others

8) collins 

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9) Brownell

 

Brownell is the disaster scenario in my opinion, and unfortunately it does seem somewhat likely