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56 minutes ago, MikeRoberts said:

You serious? Someone posted that the nba was closer to the college game then ever before: I agree in some ways but that same rational was used to hire Woodson and all of these other former nba guys and it hasn’t panned out in most cases.

troll better?

But you stated,  "The experiment of bringing guys in from the pros to coach in college has proven to be a disaster almost across the board," which completely ignores that:

1) He has already been a successful college coach.

2)He was a highly successful NBA coach.

3) He has experience as a GM which is becoming much more relevant than ever before.

If you want the most similar comps of successful college guys to go to the NBA and back to college that would be Kelvin Sampson, John Calapari, Larry Brown, Rick Pitino, and Fred Hoiberg, Lon Kruger, Mike Montgomery.  Every single one of them came back and had as much or greater success than historically typical at their university. 

Oh and of those coaches, none were remotely as successful at the NBA level as Stevens.

So either you were trolling or wholly unaware of how college to NBA and  back to college coaches have fared.

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13 minutes ago, Certified Sunshine Pumper said:

I didnt spin a thing. Stevens isn't high on your list, your words. 

A guy like Pearl... is less realistic than BS, imo. Soooo? ... hes lower on my list than BS. :) 

You said I wouldn’t be happy with Stevens and that isn’t true. It’s fine.

as for realistic, someone like Pearl could be just as realistic as Stevens had our focus been there. The focus has been on Stevens and that is a decision Dolson made. It might work out great, i hope it does. I just see no way a guy like Pearl comes here and doesn’t have us competing at the top of the bigten and cbb.

I just want to win and think there are guys that are no brainers that are hot and have been hot when it comes to CBB that we should be prioritizing. Stevens was that guy for me 12 years ago.

 

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1 minute ago, MikeRoberts said:

You said I wouldn’t be happy with Stevens and that isn’t true. It’s fine.

as for realistic, someone like Pearl could be just as realistic as Stevens had our focus been there. The focus has been on Stevens and that is a decision Dolson made. It might work out great, i hope it does. I just see no way a guy like Pearl comes here and doesn’t have us competing at the top of the bigten and cbb.

I just want to win and think there are guys that are no brainers that are hot and have been hot when it comes to CBB that we should be prioritizing. Stevens was that guy for me 12 years ago.

 

You dont know where our focus has been, technically. 

I dont see Oated and Pearl as realistic options/I have noooo idea why they'd take our job. They're in cushy spots. 

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2 minutes ago, Certified Sunshine Pumper said:

You dont know where our focus has been, technically. 

I dont see Oated and Pearl as realistic options/I have noooo idea why they'd take our job. They're in cushy spots. 

It’s been known that Pearl has wanted the IU job in the past, even as recent as 1 year ago. I can’t prove that but have heard that from people I trust and many here have shared that too. 

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19 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

1. Otzelberger 

2.  Drew 

3.  McDermott 

4.  Williams 

5.  DeVries

6.   Collins 

7.  Byington

8.  McCallum 

1. Drew

2. Otz 

3. Lloyd

4. McCollum

5. McDermott

6.  Byington

7. Devries

8. (Hold my nose) Cronin

Edited by Shoes_N_Shorts

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3 minutes ago, MikeRoberts said:

It’s been known that Pearl has wanted the IU job in the past, even as recent as 1 year ago. I can’t prove that but have heard that from people I trust and many here have shared that too. 

Allegedly, sure. 

I dont find it realistic that he would leave Auburn. Never did 

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8 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

1. Otzelberger 

2.  Drew 

3.  McDermott 

4.  Williams 

5.  DeVries

6.   Collins 

7.  Byington

8.  McCallum 

Personally I’d flip Collins and Williams . Purely on the fact that Collins IMO could recruit the state better (he’s gotten some good Indiana players over the years ) 

then I’d boot McCallum altogether look at Sprinkle right now at Washington . The 3 seasons prior to getting Washington

Montana State - 27-8 

Montana State - 25-10 

Utah State - 28-7 

I’d be hesitant if I was Iowa . One impressive year in the Mo Valley doesn’t make you ready in the slightest for the Big Ten . 
 

A solid list! 

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2 minutes ago, EasyEJay said:

then I’d boot McCallum altogether

For me if you get through the first 7 with a no from them then as a program then you might as well swing at the highest risk but highest reward young coach that is available.    No doubt he can coach. D2 resume is as impressive as you can get.  If you catch lighting in the bottom and he can produce those results you are set as a program for 20 + years.  

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21 minutes ago, MikeRoberts said:

You said I wouldn’t be happy with Stevens and that isn’t true. It’s fine.

as for realistic, someone like Pearl could be just as realistic as Stevens had our focus been there. The focus has been on Stevens and that is a decision Dolson made. It might work out great, i hope it does. I just see no way a guy like Pearl comes here and doesn’t have us competing at the top of the bigten and cbb.

I just want to win and think there are guys that are no brainers that are hot and have been hot when it comes to CBB that we should be prioritizing. Stevens was that guy for me 12 years ago.

 

I'm trying to figure out what Pearl would gain by making the move to IU. I remember him being mentioned during the last coaching search when Woody was hired too, but there's zero reason he would move now. 

He has Auburn rolling. They are in the SEC and have a very successful football program. I'm sure they have money. He has them at number 1 and they should compete for the title this year, so obviously he can win big there. 

And he's not from Indiana, nor did he go to school in this state. I get that he coached in the state at one time, but that seems pretty minor.

What is the draw of moving at his age to IU?

I don't get it...

 

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2 minutes ago, Silat Player said:

What is the draw of moving at his age to IU

All depend on his personal preference.   If he sees his career dwindling down and wants a shot to build back up a national brand then a coach could make the move despite being a power at a football school.    Maybe if they flame out early in the tourney he might move on to IU if he felt Auburn wasn’t giving him the best chance to win moving forward.   No one knows.  But my opinion would be he has a good thing rolling at Auburn despite being at a football school and he is going to have that set up for his son to take over after he retires 

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