General Coach Candidate News

[TheWatShot 15,489]

4 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

Brad Stevens quit too for a non-coaching job. What in his background suggests he wants to come grind the way a top college coach needs to grind? He quit his NBA coaching job 4 years ago, and that gig is less of a daily grind, involves minimal “recruiting ,” and comes with a months long, defined offseason. 

He was offered the general manager position and accepted, but spin it as quitting if you want. 

 

I seriously can't believe after 25 years of mostly sh*tty coaches, we have people who are opposed to someone like Brad Stevens coaching here. Mind-blowing stuff. 

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20 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

Guys like Calipari and Pitino went to the NBA for a few years and then came back to college. Stevens coached at Butler for 6 years. He left college basketball 12 years ago and left coaching entirely 4 years ago. 

Sure, if you can get him then great. But absolutely nothing in his background suggests he’s the guy who’s going to come back to the college game and grind year in and year out for the next 20 years. 

If IU’a gonna beg and plead for a coach to come here, do that with an elite college coach who wants to coach college basketball. 

The reason Stevens is the most attractive candidate for most is because he's been successful at every level, is still relatively young, and is from Indiana.

Admittedly, I do question how long he would want to be a cbb coach.  The claim he's told Dolson he'd prefer a 6 year commitment over a 10 year one would support that concern.

That said, there will be uncertainty with any potential coach and I'd still regard Stevens as the ideal candidate.

[Hoosierfan2017 24,890]

18 minutes ago, TheWatShot said:

He was offered the general manager position and accepted, but spin it as quitting if you want. 

 

I seriously can't believe after 25 years of mostly sh*tty coaches, we have people who are opposed to someone like Brad Stevens coaching here. Mind-blowing stuff. 

And did he not quit his coaching job to take the GM position, months after IU offered him the job? That’s not something you do if you love coaching. 

Folks deify Brad Stevens and then lash out when people point out that he comes with question marks too. 

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10 minutes ago, pumpfake said:

The reason Stevens is the most attractive candidate for most is because he's been successful at every level, is still relatively young, and is from Indiana.

Admittedly, I do question how long he would want to be a cbb coach.  The claim he's told Dolson he'd prefer a 6 year commitment over a 10 year one would support that concern.

That said, there will be uncertainty with any potential coach and I'd still regard Stevens as the ideal candidate.

He simply checks every single box for all parties.  He’s the one hire who would make both the administration and the fans extremely happy.  No one else can come close.  That’s why Dolson has pursued him so heavily.

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7 minutes ago, TheWatShot said:

He was offered the general manager position and accepted, but spin it as quitting if you want. 

 

I seriously can't believe after 25 years of mostly sh*tty coaches, we have people who are opposed to someone like Brad Stevens coaching here. Mind-blowing stuff. 

For some it’s not that anyone is largely opposed to this. If you need to go outside the box because other options aren’t available that’s great.

i think this is outside the box. Hiring an NBA GM to be a college basketball head coach vs just hiring one of the best current Baskebtall coaches is certainly different.

Curious why having Stevens lower on a priority list is mind blowing? Few, Pearl, Pitino, Otz Drew and the list can be longer are all here grinding and would do great here and to me are a bigger priority.

 

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When I see people use the word “grind”referring to the men’s basketball head coaching position I laugh to myself because I’ve worked many jobs that I would consider a real grind day in and day out, but I don’t think I would consider that job on its hardest day to be a “grind” even at the highest level, what are they out there digging every day for bandwidth?  They are also instant millionaires and live in the lap of luxury. Lol

 

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5 minutes ago, Kentuckysucks said:

He simply checks every single box for all parties.  He’s the one hire who would make both the administration and the fans extremely happy.  No one else can come close.  That’s why Dolson has pursued him so heavily.

That's pretty crazy, if true. 

[Hoosier Guy 8,333]

Stevens has no question marks.  Let’s put this to bed, please.

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1 minute ago, Certified Sunshine Pumper said:

That's pretty crazy, if true. 

There are guys like Otz, Lloyd, and Drew that would come close.  But even they have their haters.  I really hope one of those 3 says yes.  Otherwise good chance we’re doing this again in a few years.

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5 minutes ago, Kentuckysucks said:

There are guys like Otz, Lloyd, and Drew that would come close.  But even they have their haters.  I really hope one of those 3 says yes.  Otherwise good chance we’re doing this again in a few years.

I really hope we can get Otz or Lloyd.  That would be a relief.  I just have no idea if our higher level of resources will shake them loose.  $2M+ more for players every year can make a very big difference, that’s two elite players on a roster.  But getting bigger name coaches to move is tough.  Scott and Pam’s pitch will be key.  Of course may be they already got it done?  Idk.

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5 minutes ago, Hoosier Guy said:

Stevens has no question marks.  Let’s put this to bed, please.

Yes, it’s much more productive to speculate about Cody Zeller being Brad’s new IU GM because he caught an IU game during his wife’s West coast tour. 

[Hoosier Guy 8,333]

Just now, Hoosierfan2017 said:

Yes, it’s much more productive to speculate about Cody Zeller being Brad’s new IU GM because he caught an IU game during his wife’s West coast tour. 

Don’t change the subject.

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23 minutes ago, TheWatShot said:

He was offered the general manager position and accepted, but spin it as quitting if you want. 

 

I seriously can't believe after 25 years of mostly sh*tty coaches, we have people who are opposed to someone like Brad Stevens coaching here. Mind-blowing stuff. 

I have not seen one person opposed to Brad Stevens, just people who understand Brad Stevens isn’t going to return after a decade absence, snap his fingers, and magically have IU as a national title contender in a year or two.

That and it’s completely pointless to speculate because he has zero interest in this job. There’s nearly 1000 pages worth of speculation on a candidate that has a better chance of retiring and moving to the moon tomorrow than he does coaching Indiana. It’s so freaking silly that Brad Stevens continues to dominate the general candidate thread.

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12 minutes ago, ronzo4IU said:

When I see people use the word “grind”referring to the men’s basketball head coaching position I laugh to myself because I’ve worked many jobs that I would consider a real grind day in and day out, but I don’t think I would consider that job on its hardest day to be a “grind” even at the highest level, what are they out there digging every day for bandwidth?  They are also instant millionaires and live in the lap of luxury. Lol

 

It’s definitely a grind. They’re getting paid better than most and it’s all for a game, sure, but make no mistake the guys at the top put in a wild amount of work. 

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10 minutes ago, ronzo4IU said:

When I see people use the word “grind”referring to the men’s basketball head coaching position I laugh to myself because I’ve worked many jobs that I would consider a real grind day in and day out, but I don’t think I would consider that job on its hardest day to be a “grind” even at the highest level, what are they out there digging every day for bandwidth?  They are also instant millionaires and live in the lap of luxury. Lol

 

Grind, not as in hard labor, but requiring a high level of commitment and effort. Recruiting is basically an around the clock exercise and you can’t let anybody else beat you by putting in more effort. Building relationships with HS kids and their families is a challenge. You’ve got to be constantly traveling to games and tournaments, doing in home visits, hosting kids on campus, etc. doesn’t leave a lot of time for family stuff. Portal and NIL probably help to a degree but we see from Woody you need more than that. That’s not even covering the actual basketball coaching, which is not easy, but they are well compensated for producing results. Those results require a big time and effort commitment. So it’s a grind even if they’re not doing hard labor. Lol… you have to love doing it / be extremely committed to be highly successful.

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3 minutes ago, Hovadipo said:

It’s definitely a grind. They’re getting paid better than most and it’s all for a game, sure, but make no mistake the guys at the top put in a wild amount of work. 

And miss out on pretty much every aspect of being a parent.  Listen to any coach that is out of the game or just taken year off and hear the joy in their voice about being able to be an actual parent.   Like you said the most successful ones give up a piece of their life just for a game 

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13 minutes ago, Hovadipo said:

It’s definitely a grind. They’re getting paid better than most and it’s all for a game, sure, but make no mistake the guys at the top put in a wild amount of work. 

Yeah but…I would enjoy most of it :)

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10 minutes ago, Home Jersey said:

Grind, not as in hard labor, but requiring a high level of commitment and effort. Recruiting is basically an around the clock exercise and you can’t let anybody else beat you by putting in more effort. Building relationships with HS kids and their families is a challenge. You’ve got to be constantly traveling to games and tournaments, doing in home visits, hosting kids on campus, etc. doesn’t leave a lot of time for family stuff. Portal and NIL probably help to a degree but we see from Woody you need more than that. That’s not even covering the actual basketball coaching, which is not easy, but they are well compensated for producing results. Those results require a big time and effort commitment. So it’s a grind even if they’re not doing hard labor. Lol… you have to love doing it / be extremely committed to be highly successful.

True but they have a huge support staff and Woody never hardly even graced the recruiting trail.

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1 hour ago, HoosierHoopster said:

Personally I’m holding out hope for Otz or Drew. Land either and imo we’re a monster program again quickly 

If it’s not Stevens i think it’ll be Drew & I don’t think Baylor is going to go too far in this tourney so we’ll know sooner rather than later.

[Hoosierfan2017 24,890]

14 minutes ago, Hoosier Guy said:

Don’t change the subject.

Did you not just tell people to change the subject? Lol

*Jeff Goodman tweets that Brad isn’t a candidate* - it’s a smokescreen! Brad’s on the way! 

*Cody Zeller attends a high school basketball game* - omg he’s our new GM! He’s recruiting for Brad! 

*Cody Zeller attends an IU basketball game* - omg he really is our new GM! Brad is in the way!

Compared to

*Questions on whether a coach who quit coaching four years ago and repeatedly turned down the IU job would actually want the job and stay long term* - blasphemy! Stop that talk right now! 

Like I said, folks deify Brad Stevens and lash out when people dare question him.