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12 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

 

And with the proper vetting, Luke Murray could be an excellent hire.

[Hoosierfan2017 25,031]

I’m not even saying McCollum can’t cut it at this level. All I’m saying is that he’s a huge risk at a time IU can’t afford to miss on the next coach. Maybe McCollum goes to Iowa and does well. That only matters if the guy we hire is a dud. Louisville fans aren’t moping about Dusty May. They’re happy with their guy who has them 21-6 and 14-2 in the ACC. 

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3 minutes ago, Home Jersey said:

Never been a HC before. Huge risk IMO. I’d hate that kind of hire. 

He’s the associate head coach at Duke.

He’s a risk for sure, but his experience and exposure to the highest levels of college hoops is extraordinarily higher than a guy that has built a great program in D2.

 

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4 hours ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

Drake went 28-7 last year and 27-8 the year before. It’s not like he stepped into a wasteland of a program. He’s in his first year in D1. How many top 25 teams has he even played at this point? Isn’t his team also the slowest paced team in the entire country? Cronin has won 69% of his games overall as well as 69% of his conference games at UCLA. He’s been to the sweet 16 or better 3 of the last 4 years. Even if McCollum doesn’t flop at the P5 level, what are the odds he delivers better results than that? He’s an absolutely huge risk that IU shouldn’t have to take. 

Cronin only has one sweet 16 in his other 20+ years.  The 4th of those 4 years he finished almost outside of the top 100 Kenpom.  I feel like people are taking crazy pills given out by some leprechaun to hire one of their own. 

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2 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

He’s the associate head coach at Duke.

He’s a risk for sure, but his experience and exposure to the highest levels of college hoops is extraordinarily higher than a guy that has built a great program in D2.

 

For sure better equipped for the off the court stuff, which is important. That said, “Associate Head Coach” ain’t the real Head Coach. Very different thing to be actually in the driver’s seat IMO. Interested to see how it works out for them, I liked him as a player 

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1 hour ago, Hoosier Guy said:

It’s going to be Stevens.  Nothing has changed my mind.

You're god d*mned right...

[steubenhoosier 1,889]

Recruiting high school guys to build your program entails risk. Are the recruits going to live up to the hype?

Building your program via the portal entails risk. Will the guys mesh into a team? This year’s roster a good example of highly regarded players who don’t fit as a team.

No one answer. I want a coach who can recruit for the future but who also can evaluate guys in the portal who fit and fill the void where we need help.

If BS can do this, would be ecstatic. Would view this as a priority for anyone else to be considered. 

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3 minutes ago, Home Jersey said:

For sure better equipped for the off the court stuff, which is important. That said, “Associate Head Coach” ain’t the real Head Coach. Very different thing to be actually in the driver’s seat IMO. Interested to see how it works out for them, I liked him as a player 

That’s why he’s a risk. But he’s learned from the best of the best at the top of the top for 15 years. He’s a dude. And he’s a dude at Duke, not at some school that would be a five point neutral court underdog to the current IU trainwreck.

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46 minutes ago, str8baller said:

The unearned arrogance is a problem, that I agree with you there. Mostly with our decision makers. 
 

But, if you look at the per capita numbers Indiana puts out a ton of pro level players. I think we’re like 2nd in the country. That’s a solid proxy for talent. You have to get players somewhere. The backyard is the starting point. 
 

Again, this job is hard. The HS coaches, as an institution, can be a giant PIA. They can also deliver National Championship talent. Ditto the AAU coaches. Same with our alumni…they all think they’re basketball geniuses (the irony of my dumasz typing this is not lost on me…lol) where the big dogs need to be placated often. But they can also deliver national leading NIL funds. Lots of upside but a hard  job. I think watching a local kid win a title at UConn or god forbid Purdue while we pay tons for a pac 2 transplant loses you a ton of political capital.

Can you show me what National Championship talent you're talking about?  I can think of Kyle Guy, and that was one guy damn near a decade ago.  Maybe I'm missing on all the National Championship talent from Indiana you're talking about?

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1 hour ago, Josh said:

I respect you a lot as a poster.  A ton.

But this take is why we suck as a program.  Indiana has great recruits and coaches.  But not more than many other places in America.  Lately even, globally.  Thinking that we have some sort of superiority over other areas is why we hired Woodson and worship our high school system.  How's that worked for us?

To be successful you have to dominate your state first.  Then your region.  Then national.  If the state has one of the best HS players in the country he should be a lock for IU.  Then you work out from there.  

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37 minutes ago, Motley's said:

No top program would look at Brownell. He’d never be connected to the IU job if he wasn’t from Indiana. 

That depends on how deep you consider a ‘top program’ goes.

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42 minutes ago, OKHOOSIER said:

You’re either going to be the goat, or you’re going to be a goat. Either way, I appreciate commitment to a good bit, especially with one that drives up ad revenue for the mods. 

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Just now, Stuhoo said:

That’s why he’s a risk. But he’s learned from the best of the best at the top of the top for 15 years. He’s a dude. And he’s a dude at Duke, not at some school that would be a five point neutral court underdog to the current IU trainwreck.

I have a lot of respect for coming up through the ranks and blazing your own trail as McCollum has. I am bullish on him. That said… like you, and I think a majority of the board, ideally it’s far more preferable to get someone who is a proven commodity at the P5 level. One year at Drake isn’t enough for me to say he’s ready to coach Indiana when you keep in mind he’d have to build a whole new roster for the first time at the D1 level (can’t bring his D2 team with him).

Theres just so much we don’t know about him and the interviews would have to be very extensive. We don’t know how he’d react to a huge fanbase watching his every move.

Many higher floor options right now

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23 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

And with the proper vetting, Luke Murray could be an excellent hire.

Agree with you here. I believe he’s the straw that stirs UConn’s drink. 

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8 minutes ago, Josh said:

Can you show me what National Championship talent you're talking about?  I can think of Kyle Guy, and that was one guy damn near a decade ago.  Maybe I'm missing on all the National Championship talent from Indiana you're talking about?

Was there any time frame put on his post?

And btw, UVA won in 2019. Hardly 10 years ago.

Besides Guy, UNC had May and Montessori.

Duke had the Plumlees.

Sure there are others.

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Any Better Call Saul fans? 

Let me reiterate before posting this I have tremendous respect for him and do think he's going to be successful at the P5 level. Probably haunt us at Iowa for the next 20 years with our luck. But the idea of handing him the keys and saying - go and recruit your first Big 10 level roster (13 scholarships - and he's got none to start with apparently from Drake) - and hire your first P5 level staff. And do that within the span of like 2 weeks... Not to mention the entire aspect of dealing with donors, admin, etc. off-court obligations.

Makes me think of this scene where Jimmy is McCollum and the interviewers are IU lol. 

"I just come in did that little song and dance (one year at Drake) and... I'm in?" 

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1 minute ago, Home Jersey said:

Any Better Call Saul fans?

Well, since Brad Stevens likes Breaking Bad, I’m sure he loves Better Call Saul

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11 minutes ago, Hovadipo said:

I’m just waiting for the shadow ban when you and Stu find out about my ad blocker. Pure betrayal on my part. 

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21 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

That’s why he’s a risk. But he’s learned from the best of the best at the top of the top for 15 years. He’s a dude. And he’s a dude at Duke, not at some school that would be a five point neutral court underdog to the current IU trainwreck.

I’m with you here, while I’m not sure I’d be happy if I was Miami, this makes a lot more sense than someone just scratching the surface of D1, let alone a high major monstrosity like Indiana. 

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7 minutes ago, steubenhoosier said:

Was there any time frame put on his post?

And btw, UVA won in 2019. Hardly 10 years ago.

Besides Guy, UNC had May and Montessori.

Duke had the Plumlees.

Sure there are others.

Teague at Kentucky.  Tyler Zeller.