General Coach Candidate News

[Juwan Moye 1,315]

12 minutes ago, Artie86 said:

….bussin’, as my HS kids would say. lol
As a matter of fact, my students have asked me, “Is it eating?” lol

Skibidi 

[HoosierSadaseci 3,005]

I would love for Chris, Yeags, RTZ, IUWins, even IsaacTors to all be right with their info, but I just cant open myself to that kind of hope, only to be let down again...

And although our resources may be attractive to top tier coaches like Pearl, Drew, Few, Otz...even Self, I don't see any of them leaving what they've built to come to IU...not to mention that Woodson was hired to be a bridge-gap coach, so it wouldn't make sense to hire a coach similar in age...

No chance Dolson takes a chance on an up and comer, and doubtful he takes a chance on Beard or Wade, though they would likely be successful at IU...

So it really only boils down to a few proven winning coaches that aren't yet long in the tooth, and Cronin is likely going to be that guy...

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13 minutes ago, JSHoosier said:

Buckner flew to do a job for the Pacers on IU's dime so there was no need for Woodson to suddenly pretend to care about recruiting.

I could be completely wrong, but my understanding of that was IU asked Buckner to attend an event which would have caused him to not be able to take the Pacers team plane to a road game, which is why IU paid for the travel. 

By no means trying to defend Buckner, I hope he comes to an IU game and gets boo'd out of the building. 

[Dalton26 17,210]

8 hours ago, J34 said:

But a coach who admits he needs alcohol after a stressful day doesn't make you have concerns. Would this pond be too big for him to keep his stress reliever under control? 

It very well could be. I have absolutely no respect for Beard as a man if everything that was accused is true(ha can’t sue me for defamation). I also don’t drink at all so the need to drink every day doesn’t make sense to me at all either. I’m looking at it purely as coaching and I think Beard would be a much better coach at IU than McDermott. I also believe there would be so many stipulations in Beards contract, that he would be probably required to get help as part of his contract. 
 

I’m looking at it from a coaching POV, as a human I wouldn’t even want to be in the same room as Beard personally. But at the same time a lot of the people harping on Beards past have also been in favor of coaches in the past that have questionable pasts theirselves or covered up for their players horrendous actions too. Honestly there’s probably not many college coaches whose hands are entirely clean. 

[Juwan Moye 1,315]

1 minute ago, HoosierSadaseci said:

I would love for Chris, Yeags, RTZ, IUWins, even IsaacTors to all be right with their info, but I just cant open myself to that kind of hope, only to be let down again...

And although our resources may be attractive to top tier coaches like Pearl, Drew, Few, Otz...even Self, I don't see any of them leaving what they've built to come to IU...not to mention that Woodson was hired to be a bridge-gap coach, so it wouldn't make sense to hire a coach similar in age...

No chance Dolson takes a chance on an up and comer, and doubtful he takes a chance on Beard or Wade, though they would likely be successful at IU...

So it really only boils down to a few proven winning coaches that aren't yet long in the tooth, and Cronin is likely going to be that guy...

Reasonable take. Personally, while Cronin isn’t “exciting” I’d be happy with him as our coach if it meant we’re consistently a top-25 team again and playing for B1G titles.

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It looks like everyone had another rousing Chris Beard session last night that went absolutely nowhere, so I will say this for Beard to try and nuance the stance:

While morally, I am dubious on him and I seriously doubt he would get through a vetting process (he would live in Kentucky somewhere right now if he could, which is probably the most damning evidence), but if he was hired, I would trust that Dolson did his DD and was comfortable with the hire. Because if he melted down somehow, Dolson would also go down with the ship. Is that a risk Dolson is willing to make? No one knows. 

I don't have to agree with the hire to root for the team. The bottom line is we are not talking 5-10% of the fanbase that would be upset with the hire. Our poll here even showed its closer to 50-50. A Beard hire would fracture the fanbase from the word go, and beyond the incident, that fact would probably give Dolson pause. Winning probably helps cure it, but reality is many--  myself included would be uncomfortable if not disgusted. Call me holier than thou, a *****, judgmental, etc., I care not, and that's all I have to say about that. Not rehashing what happened to make people feel that way. Anyways...

The fun part out of the way, from a purely coaching perspective:

And before I get flamed by the Beard is literally RMK 2.0 crowd: Yes, he is talented, and I think he would probably win big at IU and make a FF in short order. BUT:

He has not IMO, and this is proven by the record whether anyone wants to admit it or not, warranted the weird obsession with him. He was 59-48 in the Big12. He got fired 8 games into the season, and Rodney Fn Terry proceeded to coach the team to 29-9, 2nd place in B12, B12T championship, and an Elite Eight-- Texas didn't exactly implode after Beard got fired. And Terry has shown he is at best an average coach-- Texas was simply loaded in 2022 (credit to Beard's roster construction). 

His last two seasons at TT were 18-13 and 18-11 respectively. He had a nice 2 year run at TT, and he has improved Ole Miss who is firmly in the middle of the pack in the SEC, which is expected IMO if you are a good coach regardless of "resources"--  not that Ole Miss is some poor backwater school. Is he a slam dunk? Maybe? Likely? I imagine we will find out soon enough, but probably not at IU. If Fitzgerald was reportedly a no by Whitten, I have a hard time believing Beard would be a yes. 

TL;DR: I will trust Dolson to vet properly regardless the outcome since it is his head too, I doubt he gets considered at all, but Beard would win a bunch of games here. 

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17 minutes ago, ap2345 said:

Because they did and so did Louisville. 

And UNC won’t look at him when they run their next hiring process.  He is a very challenging and risky hire for any big brand program or school, which has been detailed a million times in this thread.

[NashvilleHoosier 3,918]

6 hours ago, yogisballin said:

I don’t want any of the above mentioned. Let’s quit all of this nonsense of spending all this unnecessary crazy buyouts and keep it simple. Hire Chris Beard, end of story people. Even Slick Rick Pitino is trying to tell SD. Just do it!

 

im tired of .500 (at best) in the B1G and losing to ******* Purdue

Nonsense? Hah. Doesn’t Beard have a buyout of like $4.5M this season? Another $3M is peanuts if we want Dusty May. 

[JSHoosier 22,308]

14 minutes ago, ap2345 said:

Because they did and so did Louisville. 

It's bad when those two programs won't touch you.

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23 minutes ago, LamarCheeks said:

Calling people names -- only a cotton-headed ninny muggins would do such a thing! 

Pretty sure it was that Buddy/Guy exchange. We don’t tolerate that around these parts.

As for coaches, if we don’t get Stevens, Drew, or someone out of left field like Few or Bennett, McDermott would be my first choice. But coaches like TJ, Buzz, and even Cronin would be good and could win lots with IUs resources.

Since the chance IU hires Beard is nonexistent, glad he won’t be dividing the fan base.

[Artie86 3,538]

10 hours ago, RaceToTheTop said:

Enjoy the time with your daughter.  Mine is 27 and married and lives in South Carolina now.  Swear she was 8 last year.

Good grief, don’t get me going! lol

I’ve been a proud girl dad of two beautiful daughters for 30 years now. I have two wonderful granddaughters, one grandson and a 3rd granddaughter, due in May.
My wife and I have been so blessed with our daughters and grandchildren. We are so thankful they are live no more than 30 minutes away. Our lives totally revolve around them. 

“Papaw” is just putty in those babies hands! 

Sorry, got off of IU, but man,…. If you’re able to and your children have grown up, be a part of those grandbabies lives as much as possible! Time goes by soooo fast. 
 

……back to the topic on hand. Go IU! 
My choices are….

#1. Stevens

 

 

 

#2. May (unavailable)

 

 

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3 minutes ago, NashvilleHoosier said:

Nonsense? Hah. Doesn’t Beard have a buyout of like $4.5M this season? Another $3M is peanuts if we want Dusty May. 

Yeah but it seems Dusty would prefer to be at Michigan than Indiana

[Artie86 3,538]

10 minutes ago, Juwan Moye said:

Skibidi 

I just learned this one last week! lol A student showed me the “Skibidi Toilet Head”…..lol

I looked at her and said, “I don’t get it!” Lol

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14 minutes ago, Juwan Moye said:

Reasonable take. Personally, while Cronin isn’t “exciting” I’d be happy with him as our coach if it meant we’re consistently a top-25 team again and playing for B1G titles.

He can't do that at UCLA. Facts 

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10 hours ago, AKHoosier said:

Yeah that's what I've always felt with Beard. We just can't hire a guy who is essentially already on strike 2. 

You'd have to fire him if he does something like come to a rolling stop, gets pulled over at 3 AM, and blows a .12.

If his incident at UT had occurred 10+ years ago and he had stayed completely clean since then, yeah you can make the call if you're IU because he's demonstrated he can stay out of trouble.

But we're just not at that point yet. More time needs to pass to determine if you can trust him.

Don’t worry I’m sure the administration will hire Chris Collins and we will be doing this again in 4 years. Indiana basketball coaches = leap year.

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I think this year we became a football school and the next basketball hire will probably just end up cementing that. Fine by me. 

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Chris ******* Beard

Brad ******* Stevens
Dusty ******* May
Chris ******* Beard

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2 minutes ago, schoosier said:

Don’t worry I’m sure the administration will hire Chris Collins and we will be doing this again in 4 years. Indiana basketball coaches = leap year.

At least we have our moral superiority in an era when cheating is encouraged.  

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1 hour ago, IUBtown said:

Kentucky after the Drew thing genuinely wanted Pope.  Why do people assume they passed on Beard? 

Yeah Beard didn’t have nearly the same buzz last cycle. Year 1 at Ole Miss wasn’t awesome. They finished 86th in kenpom and didn’t play in the post season.