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30 minutes ago, DWB said:

Well that should pi$$ a bunch of guys off based on recent comments. But that's OK, we all have our own viewpoints, and that's what makes the world go 'round.

Well, considering we spent most of today debating Calbert Cheaney as a candidate, Porter Moser doesn't look so bad anymore. I would still be very disappointed, but talking about actual head coaches as candidates is a step in the right direction. 

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1 hour ago, woodenshoemanHoosierfan said:

I'm seeing 2 different train of thought in this thread.
1 we need a home run
2 we need to hire now because 4 players are in the transfer portal

If #1 the names mentioned are still coaching in the Tournament. If #2 we are not getting the homerun hires. We would be getting either a retired coach or a coach whose team is done for the season.

What do you want

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#1- The new coach will have much more impact on IU's future than a handful of players from this year's underperforming team. 

I want Franklin, Geronimo, Race and TJD to all stay and IU to have a solid team next season, but not at the expense of getting the right coach for the next 10+ seasons. Mr Right is probably not Mr Right now. (Yes I said that before, but I think it's clever, so repeated it.) 

In other words I will absolutely sacrifice a few good players to get a great coach that will certainly replace them soon enough anyway.

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1 minute ago, IUc2016 said:


One gets football money the other does not.


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One lets their assistants use private jets for recruiting without the head coach and the other doesn’t.   The top programs in the game are jealous of some of the stuff Marquette coaches get to do 

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8 minutes ago, str8baller said:

Sports writers aren’t known for their intelligence.  

Devils advocate: The only people who disagree with the national media are IU fans. Maybe they are right. If they are right, how does the school change/fix it? We are really arrogant as a collective fanbase. No one thinks Indiana Basketball is relevant nationally other than us. 

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13 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

Hey guys...perception is part of reality. Learn to live with it. If Dolson finds the right guy and we win, the perception changes.

The national media believes that Indiana is a more interesting, and yes, better college football program right now than Nebraska. I AGREE. Nebraska football fans would think that is laughable. It goes both ways.

EXACTLY!

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1 hour ago, hoosierpap said:

With the exception of two home runs which I think we're on about an 0-2 count with...program perception is going to be increased through results. I, frankly, don't care about program perception just need reality. You may point to program perception and tie it to recruiting, thus results, but program perception is one of many-mild influences- on recruiting.

Yeah, love Cheaney and all but I agree- it's ridiculous.

I will say, I think your comparison between Archie and Moser is fairly lazy. They're actually very different coaches with very different systems, experience, personalities. You are correct they are coming from mid major but that's about all I can get down with. 

I don't know Moser's system (honestly not sure if I even knew what Archie's system was supposed to be) or personality, so I defer to you on that. All I have to go off is his on-paper resume, and I have a lot of concerns about it. I'm not sure, at least on paper, that he'd be any better than Crean or Miller.  His past 4 years have been quite good for Loyola, but his previous 13 years not so much. Would we be getting the Moser of the past four years, the Moser of the 13 previous years, or something in between? I dunno. I think it comes down to how much risk people are willing to take, and also if any of the 'name' guys are options. 

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3 minutes ago, ISP said:

Haven't heard anything back yet from that particular guy. I’ll gladly report back when I do, I’m a masochist.

I hear you, just wondered if there was an update....appreciate ya

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Just now, Treesh said:

I don’t think we’ll find out tomorrow or Saturday. 
 

Archie hire leaked on a Saturday morning though. 

I hope we don’t find out until next weekend. Elite 8 is done Tuesday so maybe we would start hearing so more rumors about tourney coaches after that.

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One lets their assistants use private jets for recruiting without the head coach and the other doesn’t.   The top programs in the game are jealous of some of the stuff Marquette coaches get to do 

That is a very specific perk. I said IU would be able to pay more, not sure how assistants on private jets changes that


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Maybe I’m naive but there is no way Marquette is a better job. They lost Buzz Williams to the basketball powerhouse that is Virginia Tech. Tom Crean left them for us. Once we get the right coach we instantly jump back to being a top 5 job again. It’s easy to pile on because we’ve been bad for 20 years.

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Lol why? Are you the one paying the buyout?


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I think it's a huge hindrance to getting him. At that point you are talking $22M total in buyouts plus assuming at least $5M for new contract. That's a huge amount to get a coach. Not saying it can't happen or won't but to me I think he is very unlikely for those reasons. He'd be awesome though I think.

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