General Coach Candidate News

[Bankshot]

1 minute ago, IUCane said:

Whoever we hire (assuming not a Stevens, Beard, Oats, Musselman etc.), I hope Dolson offers a contract that allows IU to move on from the gamble IF necessary.  You can always renegotiate  higher pay/buyout later after they have proven themselves.  

Agree. I’ve had similar thoughts.

Example: Why did an unproven Archie Miller still have a $10 million buyout after four years?

[Nonymouse]

5 minutes ago, southernindianahoosier2 said:

TIn Foil territory here... but hear me out. 

 

After swinging and missing on Stevens the fan base is disappointed Dolson then strategically leaks that the top candidate is Mike Woodson. Therefore lowering the expectations from the fan base so that any hire who is not Alford or Woodson is seen as a huge win. Dolson is also purposefully leaking bad info to some to see who is leaking and who he can trust. 

 

Praying that Bear, Musselman, Oates, or Porter Moser are picked before a Thad Matta, Dane Fife, Beilien.  

They’re not that strategic, guys. They don’t care that much about the feelings of the message boards. 

[Trish]

I'm confident Scott reads message boards. 

Fred did, Scott has this message board pull up on his phone each morning. 

Hi Scott. 

[Its Always Sunny at IU]

3 minutes ago, Woodson1980 said:

LOL

Loved him as a player but being a year older than him I can tell you the age thing bothers me.I couldn't imagine taking this fan base on after I lost a game or two.

 

Same. Actually Andy Griffith was only 60 when he started playing Matlock on TV. That's right -- the guy everyone is talking about today to invigorate the IU basketball program is older than Matlock. 

[Capt. Crimson]

1 minute ago, Nonymouse said:

They’re not that strategic, guys. They don’t care that much about the feelings of the message boards. 

You're meaning to tell me that Scott "Daniel Ocean" Dolson doesn't have 8 layers of misdirection running to through us all off the trail? lol

[T White]

1 hour ago, bigrod said:

I will say there have been many successful college coaches who don't succeed in the NBA.

I wonder how many people are aware of Calipari's highly unsuccessful NBA resume? For the record, he went 72-112 in the NBA.

[8bucks]

26 minutes ago, Treesh said:

Who is going to shoot the basketball for us next year? LOL

Our best shooters are gone. 

We had shooters?

[southernindianahoosier2]

1 minute ago, Bankshot said:

Agree. I’ve had similar thoughts.

Example: Why did an unproven Archie Miller still have a $10 million buyout after four years?

I think that its standard in a contract to have a $10m buyout, but there should be a clause (and I posted something similar to this when Archie was hired) that if the coach misses the tournament the buyout drops if he misses 2 tournaments in a row, buyout drops further, etc. But if lets say in year 3 he goes to the FF, then buyout goes back to standard buyout on contract. You would think Glass would have learned his lessen from the Tom Crean buyout. 

 

This also makes me wonder, if Glass hadn't extended Crean in 2013, is Crean fired earlier? do we still get archie and have to fire him? or do we get Shaka or someone else? Either way, do we end up in the same place?

[WayneFleekHoosier]

You guys trying to depress me today aren't you?

[ClusterHead]

2 minutes ago, Treesh said:

I'm confident Scott reads message boards. 

Fred did, Scott has this message board pull up on his phone each morning. 

Hi Scott. 

Hello there, Mr. Treesh!  I mean...ummm, errr...I’m not Scott Dolson...ahem...I don’t even know a Scott Dolson.  My name is Guy Incognito!

[Chris007]

11 minutes ago, Golfman25 said:

What kind of physical did they give him -- climb Mt. Everest?  As long has he could get around and felt like he could do the job, what's the deal.  

This was just passed on to one of the candidates from Dolson. I'm only hearing the side of this candidate

[brandct]

Just now, T White said:

I wonder how many people are aware of Calipari's highly unsuccessful NBA resume? For the record, he went 72-112 in the NBA.

We are also highly aware of his highly successful resume of forfeiting final fours. To say that he does things above board would be a stretch. 

[Golfman25]

9 minutes ago, bigrod said:

You don't know that. Maybe we offered him, he said no, but then we gave him a physical anyway and he failed it.

IF he said no, even worse (assuming he felt he was healthy).  

[lillurk]

41 minutes ago, IU Prof said:

It seems to me it makes perfect sense that Dolson would move from Stevens to interviewing retirees and IU grads. All of the other top candidates were still coaching until this past weekend, so it would make perfect sense to get the interviews with the others out of the way while you wait for your top candidates to free up. That way you can say you covered all your bases, and don't waste the down time.

 

40 minutes ago, IU Prof said:

I'd also add that I wouldn't place any urgency on the search just because a few guys enter the portal. The program needs a massive infusion of talent. Losing a few current players, even someone like Franklin, might be a step back next year, but is a small price to pay for getting the right hire in place for the long-term.

Thank you, exactly this. You probably couldn’t interview any of the current HCs any earlier than maybe Beard sometime this week? So instead of sitting on your hands you talk to some other folks, even coaches you almost certainly wouldn’t hire at this point.

Matta makes sense as a high choice IF he’s healthy, as has been said pretty frequently. Not at all crazy. If he’s not, well.

Franklin and Stewart would be nice to keep, but they’re both going to hear out the new coach, whoever and whenever that happens.

Everyone relax. M

[Trish]

1 minute ago, ClusterHead said:

Hello there, Mr. Treesh!  I mean...ummm, errr...I’m not Scott Dolson...ahem...I don’t even know a Scott Dolson.  My name is Guy Incognito!

Announce Brad Stevens or I'm going to start a revolution. I'll turn Indiana fans into Purdue fans. Don't make me, Scott.

[akumanina]

11 minutes ago, southernindianahoosier2 said:

Dolson then strategically leaks that the top candidate is Mike Woodson

Are you sure about this? That's a strong accusation that Dolson is playing a mind game because he missed a white whale. 

[IUCane]

3 minutes ago, Golfman25 said:

IF he said no, even worse (assuming he felt he was healthy).  

My "educated" guess is we inquired about the opening.  Matta said he was intrigued but didn't feel like he could "physically" handle the demands of the job.  "Rumors" spread he failed a physical NOT that he politely turned us down due to fact he didn't feel like he could put 100+% into the position.

Edited March 24, 2021 by IUCane

[IU Prof]

8 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

This was just passed on to one of the candidates from Dolson. I'm only hearing the side of this candidate

Interesting. If true, that would mean the IU Athletic Department's immediate squashing of that rumor was untruthful. 

I'm still skeptical, just because I don't even know what a failed physical would mean in this context. What would we be concerned about specifically that would physically prevent him from taking the job? It just doesn't pass the smell test to me, no offense intended Chris (I know you are just passing along what you heard, which I appreciate)!

Edit: I get that he has health issues that could prevent him from giving it his all, but it's not clear what a doctor would tell us in that regard that would cause us to discount Matta's own assessment of his condition.

Edited March 24, 2021 by IU Prof

[Mr. Hoosier Pride]

I'm confident Scott reads message boards. 
Fred did, Scott has this message board pull up on his phone each morning. 
Hi Scott. 

Hey Treesh, great to be here...

Oops...I mean... yeah I'm sure he does.

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[Golfman25]

Just now, Chris007 said:

This was just passed on to one of the candidates from Dolson. I'm only hearing the side of this candidate

Yeah, I know.  It was rhetorical, not directed at you.  Thanks