General Coach Candidate News

[brandct]

1 minute ago, iu eyedoc said:

I would counter that, being 63 only matters if he is good, and if so, I take 10 years of a good coach at IU any day of the week. Beyond J Howard, what successful coach right now recruits, at all, by his player past? And other than a few pie in the sky candidates, translation to the current NCAA athlete is a complete unknown. 

Recruiting is his biggest unknown and 2 time NBA HC and 25 yrs of NBA coaching is never a negative and a recruits biggest advisers, mom and dad likely do know who Woodson is.

If you are waiting on Stevens, Few, Bennett,Beard, you are likely going to be standing at the alter alone for a very long time.

 

I never said I was waiting on any of them. Do I think any of them are a better hire then Mike Woodson. Yes. If it takes him 3 years to right the ship he does not right the ship until he is 66. So at that point you might get 2 years from him you might get 7 who knows what you are going to get at that age. Then we are right back here to doing this again. Can his health hold up to the recruiting grind? A recruits mom and dad if in there 40's or 50's was at best a teenager when he was in the NBA. So I would not take it as a granted that they know who he is. 

[Trish]

3 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

If you can explain what the heck that means you are a savant. 

Do we want a guy who had a winning percentage of 43% in his first three years as a power five coach? Heck no!, because "a percentage is a percentage." lol  (Coach K)

 

 

Well to be fair, that was on the college level, which Woodson has never coached on. I should note Coach K was probably pretty young when he took that job correct? After leaving IU under Bob Knight of course if I remember correctly. 

Woodson is an old fart. It looks like he got his first NBA head job at 43? Okay that's pretty good solid for the NBA even back in 2004. 

I think the majority of folks who are supportive of Woodson and maybe even IU players in general are old enough to remember them playing. That's fine and all but I really don't think there's a single Indiana "guy" who has the resume to take over the program today and win. The closes person would be Steve Alford. 

If we're hiring Steve Alford to bring a 6th banner here then Indiana as indeed fallen off. 

Mike Woodson doesn't have a resume. He has a connection to Indiana, that's sadly it. 

[hoosierbannerd]

5 minutes ago, AZ Hoosier said:

There has been so much chatter about so many potential coaches... who remembers what "the first story" on any one (except BS) was? Can you refresh an old guy's memory? Please and thanks.

Surely you aren't confirming the agreement and failed physical, are you? (And I won't call your "Shirley" again) :D

apparently, I missed the "shirley" exchange, but that is one of my favorite movie lines ever.. I love literal humor!!

[Trish]

3 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

Answered above, was his job but didn't pass the physical

If we did indeed offer it to Matta, we're far down on the list I assume.

Thad is mostly around 4-7 on here. If it indeed true, then Beard, Drew, Mussleman have turned Indiana down. 

If all this is true, then we're hiring an Indiana guy. 

I'm going to throw up. 

[iu eyedoc]

12 minutes ago, Treesh said:

Oh please, a percentage is a percentage.

His name is constantly brought up in the NBA head coaching searches but he can never land a job. There has to be a reason for that and I truly believe it's because he hasn't impressed as a HEAD coach. Current NBA teams are not hiring him to be the head coach and yet Indiana should hire him because he played at Indiana? He barely won with the best players in the world and now we're expecting him to win with generally worse players? YIKES! 

His resume doesn't stick out at all.

Tom Allen is 24-25 as a HC, he can't even produce a winning percentage with the top 5% of high school football players in the world and has never won a B1G championship or a bowl game, why did he get an extension?

His resume doesn't stick out at all.

Hey look, I can do it too!!

 

[Kentuckysucks]

Just now, Treesh said:

If we did indeed offer it to Matta, we're far down on the list I assume.

Thad is mostly around 4-7 on here. If it indeed true, then Beard, Drew, Mussleman have turned Indiana down. 

If all this is true, then we're hiring an Indiana guy. 

I'm going to throw up. 

Trust Scott Dolson.

 

[Trish]

1 minute ago, iu eyedoc said:

Tom Allen is 24-25 as a HC, he can't even produce a winning percentage with the top 5% of high school football players in the world and has never won a B1G championship or a bowl game, why did he get an extension?

His resume doesn't stick out at all.

Hey look, I can do it too!!

 

To be completely fair, Indiana Football is not Indiana Basketball.

Expecting Indiana Football to hire a banner winner is unrealistic, especially a few years ago. 

 

[Artie86]

2 minutes ago, Kentuckysucks said:

Trust Scott Dolson.

 

So this is your guess, hunch or

“been told”....? 

[Stuhoo]

2 minutes ago, iu eyedoc said:

Tom Allen is 24-25 as a HC, he can't even produce a winning percentage with the top 5% of high school football players in the world and has never won a B1G championship or a bowl game, why did he get an extension?

His resume doesn't stick out at all.

Hey look, I can do it too!!

 

Sorry, "a percentage is a percentage." Also, Tom Allen doesn't even have a winning record as a coach in the playoffs.

[Josh]

12 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

I know Woodson really pushed for the job the last two times. Asking rich people in Bloomington to call on his behalf to help sway Glass. This could be all smoke and mirrors

If this is true it makes me want Woody.  This would make it seem like he really wants this job while others might have to be talked into it or just want a pay raise.  I want a guy who really wants the job, who will pour everything into it.  Bring on Coach Woodson

[Stuhoo]

8 minutes ago, Treesh said:

Woodson is an old fart.

The highest compliment you can pay to someone on this board!

[Chris007]

5 minutes ago, Treesh said:

If we did indeed offer it to Matta, we're far down on the list I assume.

Thad is mostly around 4-7 on here. If it indeed true, then Beard, Drew, Mussleman have turned Indiana down. 

If all this is true, then we're hiring an Indiana guy. 

I'm going to throw up. 

I think we skipped all of them. My understanding was Woodson always thought he was #2 after Brad but was really disappointed when he learned that we were going with Matta 2nd. I'm just getting part of the story and sharing what I was told. So there is half I'm missing

[Hoosierfan222]

How dare Mike Woodson not take completely average teams to winning records in the playoffs! 
 

Those Knicks teams were stacked! They had Melo and.... uh.... a broken Amare Stoudemire?

[Chris007]

1 minute ago, Josh said:

If this is true it makes me want Woody.  This would make it seem like he really wants this job while others might have to be talked into it or just want a pay raise.  I want a guy who really wants the job, who will pour everything into it.  Bring on Coach Woodson

Yes he was at Cook a few years ago with Bill and Wayne Radford wanting them to push for him to get the job. It does seem he would walk over broken glass for it. 

[iu eyedoc]

1 minute ago, Stuhoo said:

Sorry, "a percentage is a percentage." Also, Tom Allen doesn't even have a winning record as a coach in the playoffs.

I bet players don't remember him from his playing days at Maranatha Baptist University either. How will he ever recruit.

[Feathery]

Just now, Josh said:

If this is true it makes me want Woody.  This would make it seem like he really wants this job while others might have to be talked into it or just want a pay raise.  I want a guy who really wants the job, who will pour everything into it.  Bring on Coach Woodson

Honestly, he has the potential to be a great recruiter at Indiana. From the state, desire for the position, NBA experience as a player and coach, NBA playoff experience as a coach.  That is a fantastic place to start in terms of a recruiter profile. He actually did better at his NBA stops than the coaches before him. Which says he can coach even a poor roster. 
 

As far as the Indiana former players, he is my clear cut #1 option. And I think he would be successful. I’m totally open to him being the next coach. 

[Hoosierfan222]

2 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

Yes he was at Cook a few years ago with Bill and Wayne Radford wanting them to push for him to get the job. It does seem he would walk over broken glass for it. 

Honestly at this point I’ve talked myself into Woodson so if our alternatives are assistant coaches right now **** it just let Woodson have it

[Hoosierfan2017]

2 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

I think we skipped all of them. My understanding was Woodson always thought he was #2 after Brad but was really disappointed when he learned that we were going with Matta 2nd. I'm just getting part of the story and sharing what I was told. So there is half I'm missing

Do you know why we skipped them? I would be incredibly disappointed in Dolson if he didn’t do everything he could to land one of them. 

[Trish]

3 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

I think we skipped all of them. My understanding was Woodson always thought he was #2 after Brad but was really disappointed when he learned that we were going with Matta 2nd. I'm just getting part of the story and sharing what I was told. So there is half I'm missing

I'm going to throw up again.

Is Scott old enough to retire? He might want to look into options when this blows up in four years. 

[Coach Robby]

Ah. The 3rd rumor since CAM let go...will this one stick? I don't know squat, but would take Woodson, Cheaney, Lewis and maybe keep Kenya Hunter?