Archie. Miller. Fired.

[RaceToTheTop]

1 hour ago, Uspshoosier said:

IU wasn’t in his final 5 

henry dropped IU after Hunter committed. IU tried to convince him that he still had a spot but Henry and his camp felt Hunter and him occupied the same space

If Hunter doesn’t commit on the Monday after Henry got an offer I would of guessed he would of went to IU 

Yep, I think that was the exact timeline.  I also think people are being revisionist on Henry's perceived value as a recruit.  He was a very late riser.  He wasn't in the top 150 I believe when IU offered.  At the time IU offered, his other offers were Butler, UMass, Xavier, and Nebraska.  Michigan State, in fact, was the last team that offered him.  I also don't think there would have been a coach that would have truthfully told you that if given the choice of Hunter or Henry at that point that they would have taken Henry.

[Magnanimous]

9 minutes ago, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said:

Here is what Wiki has to say...

This has been up all day. Normally they get corrected within an hour. 

[WayneFleekHoosier]

Here is what Wiki has to say...

Not gonna lie. Lol.


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[RaceToTheTop]

9 minutes ago, Magnanimous said:

This has been up all day. Normally they get corrected within an hour. 

Around the time that Matt Painter was threatening to leave Purdue for Missouri, I contributed the term "paintered" to Urban Dictionary with a definition of 'blackmailing the shithole company you are working for about leaving for another shithole company" and gave the contributor a name that matched a prominent Purdue basketball fan that was posting on a message board I was on.  Stayed up for a couple of years, LOL.

[LamarCheeks]

TBH, the Archie-Wikipedia thing disappoints me. The guy wasn't a cheater like Sampson or a schmuck like Crean. He came here and worked his a$$ off -- for myriad reasons, it just didn't work out. 

Taking shots like that is petty and unnecessary. 

Fans wonder why a coach wouldn't want to come here -- that's why. 

[Demo]

6 minutes ago, LamarCheeks said:

TBH, the Archie-Wikipedia thing disappoints me. The guy wasn't a cheater like Sampson or a schmuck like Crean. He came here and worked his a$$ off -- for myriad reasons, it just didn't work out. 

Taking shots like that is petty and unnecessary. 

Fans wonder why a coach wouldn't want to come here -- that's why. 

Agree completely. The guy busted his a** and carried himself like a Pro. It didn’t work and it’s time to move on. But zero need to dance on his grave. God, I hate that sort of thing.

[Loaded Chicken Sandwich]

37 minutes ago, LamarCheeks said:

TBH, the Archie-Wikipedia thing disappoints me. The guy wasn't a cheater like Sampson or a schmuck like Crean. He came here and worked his a$$ off -- for myriad reasons, it just didn't work out. 

Taking shots like that is petty and unnecessary. 

Fans wonder why a coach wouldn't want to come here -- that's why. 

I really don't think he tried hard enough. He tried too hard to make a terrible system work. 

[RaceToTheTop]

28 minutes ago, Demo said:

Agree completely. The guy busted his a** and carried himself like a Pro. It didn’t work and it’s time to move on. But zero need to dance on his grave. God, I hate that sort of thing.

The only coach that ever left Indiana that I have any animosity toward is Kelvin Sampson.

[Josh]

38 minutes ago, LamarCheeks said:

TBH, the Archie-Wikipedia thing disappoints me. The guy wasn't a cheater like Sampson or a schmuck like Crean. He came here and worked his a$$ off -- for myriad reasons, it just didn't work out. 

Taking shots like that is petty and unnecessary. 

Fans wonder why a coach wouldn't want to come here -- that's why. 

I agree with everything except that last sentence.  This childish stuff happens at all the big programs, yet they still reel in big name coaches.

[RaceToTheTop]

Just now, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said:

I really don't think he tried hard enough. He tried too hard to make a terrible system work. 

See Lamarcheeks post.

[Josh]

Billie Gillespie was chased out of Rupp Arena and UK still hired the hottest commodity. 

I don't do the childish Wikipedia stuff, I don't condone it, but it is not the reason a good coach wouldn't want to come here.

[RaceToTheTop]

1 minute ago, Josh said:

Billie Gillespie was chased out of Rupp Arena and UK still hired the hottest commodity. 

I don't do the childish Wikipedia stuff, I don't condone it, but it is not the reason a good coach wouldn't want to come here.

Hate to say it.....but we aren't Kentucky.  Butnyes, other programs certainly have the same vitriol.  

[BGleas]

1 hour ago, brumdog45 said:

Yep, I think that was the exact timeline.  I also think people are being revisionist on Henry's perceived value as a recruit.  He was a very late riser.  He wasn't in the top 150 I believe when IU offered.  At the time IU offered, his other offers were Butler, UMass, Xavier, and Nebraska.  Michigan State, in fact, was the last team that offered him.  I also don't think there would have been a coach that would have truthfully told you that if given the choice of Hunter or Henry at that point that they would have taken Henry.

There is a poster on the other site who works with Henry's Dad. He says that Henry's Dad told him that once Hunter and Damezi committed that IU stopped calling them. 

[Golfman25]

1 hour ago, LamarCheeks said:

TBH, the Archie-Wikipedia thing disappoints me. The guy wasn't a cheater like Sampson or a schmuck like Crean. He came here and worked his a$$ off -- for myriad reasons, it just didn't work out. 

Taking shots like that is petty and unnecessary. 

Fans wonder why a coach wouldn't want to come here -- that's why. 

I disagree he worked his a$$ off.  The previously posted article with quotes from is first press conference regarding an up tempo offense etc. is exactly what he didn't provide.  Why?  That is completely on him.  If a future coach is going to be butthurt over a truthful wiki page, then go coach D3.  

[TheWatShot]

1 hour ago, LamarCheeks said:

TBH, the Archie-Wikipedia thing disappoints me. The guy wasn't a cheater like Sampson or a schmuck like Crean. He came here and worked his a$$ off -- for myriad reasons, it just didn't work out. 

Taking shots like that is petty and unnecessary. 

Fans wonder why a coach wouldn't want to come here -- that's why. 

Most coaches would probably smirk if they read that. It kills me how this fanbase thinks coaches are too sensitive to want to deal with us. 

[Southside]

2 hours ago, LamarCheeks said:

TBH, the Archie-Wikipedia thing disappoints me. The guy wasn't a cheater like Sampson or a schmuck like Crean. He came here and worked his a$$ off -- for myriad reasons, it just didn't work out. 

Taking shots like that is petty and unnecessary. 

Fans wonder why a coach wouldn't want to come here -- that's why. 

Unnecessary, true. But it happens at just about every school.

A good coaching candidate would give zero sheets about some knucklehead on wiki.... There are knuckleheads everywhere.

At the end of the day, most coaches work their azzes off. They are paid a lot of money to do so. There are lots of things to point to, but at the end of the day, it just didn't work out. I think it's fair to say that perhaps Archie just bumped his head on the ceiling stepping up to the Big10. 

31 minutes ago, TheWatShot said:

Most coaches would probably smirk if they read that. It kills me how this fanbase thinks coaches are too sensitive to want to deal with us. 

Any coaching candidate that would be frightened away by something like that is soft anyway, and we're better off without them.

[Chris007]

9 hours ago, Golfman25 said:

I disagree he worked his a$$ off.  The previously posted article with quotes from is first press conference regarding an up tempo offense etc. is exactly what he didn't provide.  Why?  That is completely on him.  If a future coach is going to be butthurt over a truthful wiki page, then go coach D3.  

They don't have to be the same. You can work your @$$ off and not have success. Or you can be terrible at your job and fail up like a lot of people in this country do on a daily basis. Have people I know that have worked on this staff, attending practices myself, I know for a fact he has worked his @$$ off. Results just have been terrible. 

[Chris007]

9 hours ago, Irish YJ said:

Unnecessary, true. But it happens at just about every school.

A good coaching candidate would give zero sheets about some knucklehead on wiki.... There are knuckleheads everywhere.

At the end of the day, most coaches work their azzes off. They are paid a lot of money to do so. There are lots of things to point to, but at the end of the day, it just didn't work out. I think it's fair to say that perhaps Archie just bumped his head on the ceiling stepping up to the Big10. 

Any coaching candidate that would be frightened away by something like that is soft anyway, and we're better off without them.

Somewhat agree with this. Most big-time coaches know that fans are idiots but you have to deal with them as part of the job. 

[bigrod]

1 hour ago, Chris007 said:

Somewhat agree with this. Most big-time coaches know that fans are idiots but you have to deal with them as part of the job. 

You mean with the exception of us, right?

[Chris007]

14 minutes ago, bigrod said:

You mean with the exception of us, right?

You've been on here long enough to know we have idiots among us. Not talking this board, talking about IU fans in general