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Field of 68 guesstimates from yesterday: Potential top ten in the country offense Buzzing on Dorn and Reed Bailey Big questions about Bailey's ability to defend the five 8/9 tournament game is center mass of predictions; 4-ish seed if they become pretty good defensively and a Fran McCaffery Iowa team if they don't Very fun team to watch

The disconnect with fans and IUs high school recruiting in my opinion comes from the fact the basically the last time we had a coach that put in effort on the high school avenue was back with Archie over 4 years ago. Sure Woody had some success with landing highly rated high school kids but none of them were long term recruiting wins. IUs footprint in high school recruiting has been non existent. DeVries seems to get it and has made himself visible in the recruiting world. He seems to have no problem grinding and doing the work even if the results hasn’t shown up in the first cycle. Establish connections on the recruiting trail again for your program and maybe down the road you get IU back in the game that they have sorely been absent from. Looking back at high school recruiting that IU as a program has had since Archie’s last year through this year will make you not feel well. The number of those kids that were only here 1 year to help or left before they could contribute to the program and it’s no wonder the program is where it’s at today. Results might not be there yet but the fact they have a coach willing to roll his sleeves up and actually recruit like the job demands is nice to see in my opinion.

Feels like it’s a matter of time until college teams start trying to trot out 23-28 year old pros with “eligibility.” CBB needs to be careful. If the sport gets away from college age players I think people will lose interest in a meaningful way (much more than anything NIL or the portal did — which was not much imo). Good job by Izzo to speak out as one of the statesman of CBB (and yea I know he isn’t a saint).

Somebody needs to. For Chrissake, we have full blown European pros, now we have American pros, we have college players who graduated from HS in 2018, 8 figure rosters and when private equity inevitably gets it’s foot in the door uniforms are gonna look like NASCAR. It’s beyond gross and the NCAA is worried about nothing but getting sued and clearly doesn’t even have the concept of a plan.

https://x.com/BenShockley_/status/1980835813534626049 Izzo on the London Johnson situation. Of course he!’s right.

Got to laugh at UCLA fans posting, "And David pulled a stone from his bag and slung it . . . " not realizing this is not only a scripture but it is also a memorable line from the locker room scene in the movie HOOSIERS !!! LOL

I like it. Dorn is something of a wild card imo. From the Marion game, the defensive rotations, switches and extensions to perimeter looked pretty good. Marion isn’t good, but at one point it was something like 31-4. That was a result of energetic D. And the shooting was without our best shooter finding his touch. Wilkerson is going to light up teams. it is absolutely going to be fun to watch, and based on the effort and communication I saw I expect our D to improve and adjust during the season. Imagine that, actual adjustments. So looking forward to watching this team grow

The Daily Hoosier - Gus Johnson (play-by-play), Joel Klatt (analyst), and Jenny Taft (sideline) will call the UCLA at IU game on Saturday for FOX.

Looks like the replay of Marian vs IU tonight on BTN @ 10pm

I like IUFB being compared to Goliath. That’s a new experience.

https://www.on3.com/news/how-g-league-players-can-now-play-college-basketball/ Some explanation of the NCAA’s thinking on the G-League situation. If I’m reading this correctly it sounds like any undrafted G-League players still within their 5 year post-HS window will be eligible to make the London Johnson move. Sounds a little murky as far as whether they were in the draft but undrafted vs a kid like Johnson who hasn’t gone through the draft process. The old days of the Fab 5 getting envelopes from Ed Martin seem positively cute now.

Recruiting has seemingly been fixed with the switch of recruiting coaches. Three top 60 recruits including the two highest ranked players in program history directly out of high school for 2026 both in top 30. Also 2025 has two top-40 recruits. These classes (especially 2026 which is likely to be top-five in country) are in line with other top programs of last few years and is what should have been happening the last few seasons when winning. It was all about switching lead recruiting coaches. The job under the previous recruiter was not commensurate to the results on court. This new one in last year very much is. Glad Moren recognized it and made the change. It shows she expects winning and strong recruiting as much as fans and recognized job was not getting done under previous person.

I agree. Although I strongly believe we will beat UCLA, at Maryland and at Penn State none of them are “sure things”. Who knows how PSU will respond to their new coach, add in their talent and 100k fans and the game could be a challenge. The bummer about PSU is that it has turned into a “ho hum win” or “bad loss”. Cant wait for Saturday and watching our D take care of Nico.

4-1 final. Hoosiers 16 shots, 9 on goal and 5 corners. Wisky 7-3-4.

Full game is up on YouTube

People just continue to underestimate Moren. Personally, I find it comical. She’s an outstanding coach. Her team is now faster and more athletic. There’s going to be some growing pains as she and the team adjust, and then the team will rise under her coaching. Let the Debbie Doubters keep at it. That’s all just fuel

I wonder if Jenny's # is 867-5309?

Private equity makes everything it touches worse. Hope it stays far away from the Big Ten.

Wisconsin can’t even get any love with insults

No such thing as an easy win in the Big Ten. Except for Turdue :)

I’m really scratching my head over all the angst regarding this game. Cig has proven that he’ll have his team ready to go. We’re playing at home. UCLA will be playing a game when they are normally just getting out of bed. Too many are buying into the media loving the Bruins’ turnaround. Trust in Cig. Trust in Fisher, Monds, Kamara and the rest of the lads. Watch with the quiet confidence that comes with being the superior team. I know, this is new for us. Gotta start thinking and acting like the programs that have been there before.

They should be out shortly, but are not out yet.

Not sure how good Fisher is but the word is that Cig played once, complained that it took too much time but, he shot an 18 as one would expect.

I don't like these changes, but at least these are stated rules. Ed and boosters like him are still the seedy underbelly of college athletics because that was bald-faced cheating. Nothing about it is romantic, quant, or cute.

(Getting way ahead of myself), if we do play OSU this season I think it would be to our benefit to wear these and psych them out.

The 7' Ratliff twins both commit to Southern Cal.

A little fun with the nation's best linebacker ... https://x.com/B1Gfootball/status/1981007690794222066

Vaughn Karvala, Come on down You're the next contestant on the Price is Right.

He's right, and he knows that he has the influence and the cache to speak out when a lot of other coaches will not. I have been saying for a couple of years now that the NCAA needs to get their sh!t straightened out or these power leagues will start their own governing body.

Next Friday night, men are on the road to face Maryland (9-0-3) (5-0-2) who has not lost at home this year. Match will be televised on BTN at 8:00. 7 min. left in tonight's match with Hoosiers maintaining a 4-0 lead.

In my perspective, mostly because of who we targeted, this is the least impressive recruiting window I can remember. Went hard after 2 PGs, 2 or 3 wings, and 3 or more centers only to land 1 100+ recruit. I wanted the portal anyhow so it’s kinda whatever. But from a program momentum perspective this looks bad. No juice.

Hold your horses. We gotta let this play out so that we can see how big it needs to be.

Wowsie wowsie woo woo

I think that thing is end of life at 60 years old. I’m pretty sure a new one is coming.

And opportunity often equates with tangible successes as freshmen. Both will have plenty of opportunity on this IU squad. WOuldn't be surprised if both start, either early or eventally this season.

I have a couple...

A couple more

As someone employed at a company who’s owned by PE, please no.

To give you an idea of just how dominant IU was against Marian, which is a pretty good NAIA team with a few former D1 players? At one point, IU was ahead 42-5. The Boston Celtics coaching staff, which includes multiple recent NBA and high-major players (DaSean Butler, Mazzulla, Emile Jefferson, God Shammgod) just played a Mazzulla-dictated game against the Celtics media contingent, and the score was a similar 57-4. Per this article, "The game served as an (unneeded) reminder of the ridiculous disparity between (us) regular people and elite athletes." IU did pretty much the same thing to an above-average NAIA college team. https://www.celticsblog.com/articles/122754/joe-mazzulla-celtics-coaches-media-game-53-points

BLOOMINGTON, Ind. – Indiana swimming and diving returns to action with a dual meet at Kentucky Wednesday (Oct. 22) inside the Lancaster Aquatic Center. The meet is scheduled to begin at 10 a.m. ET, and fans can stream the action via the SEC Network+ digital platform. MEET INFO Wednesday, Oct. 22 • 10 a.m. ET Lancaster Aquatic Center • Lexington, Ky. Opponent: Kentucky Live Results (Swimming): Meet Mobile (App) Live Results (Diving): divemeets.com Live Stream: SEC Network+ OF NOTE… HOOSIERS SWEEP LA DUAL MEETS Indiana swimming and diving won all five duals meets during the two-day USC Invitational October 10-11. The Hoosiers swept the four relays and won 18 individual events. Three IU swimmers – freshman Liberty Clark, junior Miranda Grana and senior Zalán Sárkány – won all three of their individual events. Twelve Hoosiers captured NCAA qualifying times and seven IU divers picked up NCAA zone qualifying scores on the springboards. The Indiana men won 15 of 17 swimming events while holding No. 14 Texas A&M and No. 17 USC to double-digit team scores. IU captured four of the six available conference weekly awards, sweeping the Big Ten Swimmer of the Week and Big Ten Freshman of the Week honors for the cycle. HOOSIERS FILL U.S. NATIONAL TEAMS A total of 21 Americans with ties to the Indiana swimming and diving program have qualified for their respective national teams.

Crean had pop for a 2 or 3 seasons. Archie had Romeo and TJD then nothing. Woodson had pop for 2 years and a portal “haul” or at least some Juice. I feel like pre and post NIL is a thing at Indiana. Granted we only put ourselves near the top for 1 Woodson season where he wasted the expenditure. It’s been an entirely disappointing stretch for our fanbase. Usually our 4 year coaches have failed by year 2 and then we suffer through years 3 and 4 with less Juice. This go round, we are trying the incognito route of roster building. Sent from my iPad using BtownBanners mobile app

Still 16 min. remain but we've fired off 15 shots; 9 on goal while limiting the Badges to 4 and 2.

Great leadership is what took so long. Whitten + Dolson = Cignetti Dolson + Cignetti = Haines, Shanahan, Bostad, Owens, etc. Cignetti + Haines, Shanahan, etc = winningwinningwinning.

^^This is further proof of the mindset of an extraordinary winner.^^ Sure, Cig wants a fat paycheck and sure he wants his life and his family situation to be good where he is. But he could get those things in lots of places. "But Bloomington is special!" Yes, Bloomington is a really good place, and to IU students, alumni, and fans Bloomington and IU are special. Guess what? Places like Gainesville and State College are similarly special and good places. To Cig Bloomington and IU are simply really good. So what is "special" to Cig? That the leadership that he works alongside be worthy of his trust and respect. And if those highly appreciated leaders in his life aren't there? He is sending an open signal that he will look somewhere that has leadership that he respects. What an incredible endorsement of the University President and AD!

I think we can safely say IU has robbed Peter (the basketball program) to pay Paul (the football program) at the moment. This is probably a very good decision for the university overall and no one should complain given which sport drives revenue. However, it means DeVries will have to learn make do with less resources than any past coach. I will not be surprised if he achieves this, but it probably means NIL for top tier recruits is out of reach right now as many in media have hinted at. DeVries will have to make do with secondary recruits and portal that fit his system which is fine. IU simply doesn't have the money or resources to support both programs at top notch right now it appears and almost all the NIL and Rev Share money is going to football. This puts Thompson and other top recruits price out of reach right now for most part. Its the reality in new world of college sports. Until IU has 80-100K football seat stadiums filled each week, only OSU and Michigan have the deep NIL money to outbid for both. Indiana simply does not with so much support behind football and winning more than one or two of these recruiting battles for blue chippers is not viable until football delivers even more money to athletic budget.

Dude clearly was intimidated by knowing he'd always be the second-best Anthony Thompson to ever play ball at IU!

We are going to be tested. This game will probably be close.

Based on the direction that this thread has taken… Let’s install top notch academic facilities in Memorial Stadium and link them to primo seat season tickets that can only be accessible to elite students. Two birds with one stone, I tell ya.

I hate these types of conversations. Different players at different times. AT was an awesome player. I loved watching him and believe he should have won the best player that year. Fisher is the heartbeat of this years defense and also a great player. Can we just celebrate what each of them brings/brought to their respective teams without comparing them? I love what each of them brought to their respective teams.

Who wants a National Championship in football? And in basketball?