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Not surprised. They make mistakes in the notes a lot there but they are definitely 9-3 and 7-1 not what's in the notes:). It probably got copied from two games ago by mistake.

IU is 9-3 and 7-1 not 7-3 and 5-1. IU Wins Thursday they take the Big Ten lead. Both games are at home and this is a chance to dispose of two teams toward the top of the conference this week and open up a lead on everyone not named Maryland which they already started to do. OSU, Michigan and MSU are the other teams closest to them and they have two of the three this week and the third in Michigan is shut down for COVID. Reality is if IU wants a chance to beat Maryland for title they need to lose at most once or maybe win out. In terrific position for second if they take care of business as they play every team around them still besides Maryland so with wins can keep those other teams behind in standings as they are now.

That's about right. I would love to be higher but based on watching this team they look like the 15-20 best team in the country.

Absolutely. We have more good coaches then ever in other programs and have turned around many bad ones thanks to that. The right coach will do same for Men's Basketball. Other programs like Women's basketball are proof of that and they had no history that was good to speak of.

Posted in Women's Thread as well: Exhibit A: IU Women erase a double digit deficit against a really good NW team in second half for double digit win. They have now pulled away from rest of Big Ten besides Maryland and will compete with them for Big Ten Title. This also shows tremendous growth as IU was in same position earlier in yr vs. Tennessee and lost. Exhibit B: IU Men are down double digits second half against bad Rutgers team and never get over hump and take a bad loss and have shown no growth throughout season. One has a coach who needs an extension to avoid being poached and the other has a coach who needs to be fired. Amazing the difference where programs are at.

Posted in IU Rutgers game thread as well: Exhibit A: IU Women erase a double digit deficit against a really good NW team in second half for double digit win. They have now pulled away from rest of Big Ten besides Maryland and will compete with them for Big Ten Title. This also shows tremendous growth as IU was in same position earlier in yr vs. Tennessee and lost. Exhibit B: IU Men are down double digits second half against bad Rutgers team and never get over hump and take a bad loss and have shown no growth throughout season. One has a coach who needs an extension to avoid being poached and the other has a coach who needs to be fired. Amazing the difference where programs are at.

That makes no sense. Why would the Packers have any incentive to screw the Colts, a team in the other conference they have no connection to? I am not doubting Patrick said it, but I am just not sure that is true as Packers would have zero reason to screw Colts.

Scott is a bit overly optimistic in thinking he's NFL ready. This will hurt Scott way more than it will hurt IU. I actually, think Baldwin, Ellis and James have more upside and break away speed. There is literally no trait that stands out that will get Scott drafted. He has been a nice steady back for IU and I like him a lot but he can certainly be replaced.

My how we have turned the tables. It used to be PU was the ranked team who dominated the series, but last few years it is IU. We can get mad about our coaching situation with the IU men, but the fact that the Boilers have held on to Sharon Versyp this long and let her drive the program into the ground is mind blowing. Women's Basketball used to be to PU what Soccer is to IU. The difference is when Mike Freitag started driving the program into the ground, IU went out and replaced him to get back to the top while PU just lets Versyp continue to kill the program. No complaints and I am glad we have found our leader who is good at what she does in Coach Moren (and there is a clause in her contract that PU has to pay us Millions to take her from us so we are good there) and PU can continue to employ their incompetent coach who screwed us way back. Schedule is about to get a lot tougher with the Rutgers game cancelled, but we certainly handled the bottom of the Big Ten with no problem winning all six of our Big Ten victories by at least 20 points. MSU and NW on road next who are actually good and I will be thrilled if we get one of them. Time for men to follow suite and win tonight. Boiler down.

Easy win as expected and same should occur against Wisconsin. Until we get to the MSU and NW games on road we have no business losing and should be at least 7-1 in conference heading into those. Cool to see Berger have a triple double.

We will eventually. Even if we get a COVID cancellation it will likely get re-scheduled for later. Big Ten set up several byes for this situation and it might not be bad to play this game later in yr when we are in middle of a tough stretch to get an easier game in between.

I'm worried about two things tonight and neither is us losing. One is the eye injury to Cardano-Hillary and the other is the possibly more serious injury to Penn's ankle, especially after seeing her on crutches. Good news is our next 4 games are against bad teams and we need to win them all with or without those two. I know we were picked to win the Big Ten but I was skeptical we could top Maryland. Basically we were picked ahead of them because of experience and Maryland losing a couple players. Doesn't matter they re-load with 5* recruits every year. It would be like IU picked to win Big Ten East next year over OSU in Football because we return more players. Realistically though those teams have plenty of players in waiting and will still be better. My bigger question is much like the Football team, can we jump Iowa, NW and OSU and clearly position ourselves as second best team in conference instead of 4th or 5th. That is what I am looking for. What happened tonight I knew was coming a mile away and doesn't change anything. Only worried about the unjuries.

Oh I remember the 90's well. That's why I said a 'decade ago in college and further back as a kid'. I followed team closely since 96 when I was 10 and grew up in Bloomington and dad took me to a couple games a yr. Outside of Randle El, Williams and a couple receivers like Mercy Gadis and Jerry Dorsey we did not field a Big Ten level team. That's why I also said 'outside of skill positions'.

One other positive thought: A decade ago when I was in college and further back as a kid, we looked nothing like a Big Ten team with a defense that was tiny, thin and couldn't make plays and kickers and punters who had legs of 35-40 yards max. Now we have a team that looks like it has Big Ten athletes all over the field and kickers and punters with normal 50-55 yard range. I used to think outside of skill positions, I was watching a team playing in mud and not very good. Now we look like a Big Ten team in all aspects pretty much which is a huge step forward. Still have more steps to take, but at least the talent is closer on level with many fellow conference schools now and you feel like you are watching a Big Ten team rather than a MAC team.

Apparently Tuttle has a separated shoulder which to me proves all the more what I said about Sheridan. Why are you not calling more runs up gut that were working if he is playing in that much pain makes me question play calling more? Kudos to Tuttle for sticking it out, but I stand by what I said that he is a mediocre to decent Big Ten QB and doesn't get the ball down field enough or accurately. Not a bad player and better than many we have had but he is no Penix, Ramsey or Sudfeld and getting QB's on that level is what you need to really compete in Big Ten and he is one step below but makes a fine backup.