How is Darian DeVries Doing So Far?

[Josh]

4 minutes ago, EasyEJay said:

They might beat Minn this week then will lose at OSU then will go 0-1 at the BTT . So they will finish 18-14 and 9-11 in Big Ten play . 1 ranked win vs Purdue .

 

Year 1 of Archie Miller 16-15 9-9 in the Big Ten . 1 win over a ranked team with no portal or NIL
 

I mean the ISU and IPFW losses at home were bad but really should we feel that much better about year 1 of DD ? 

Oof.  Man I used to think there was no way we could have a coach worse than Archie Miller.  But it seems we have a competition.

[Uspshoosier]

6 minutes ago, EasyEJay said:

Year 1 of Archie Miller 16-15 9-9 in the Big Ten . 1 win over a ranked team with no portal or NIL
 

I mean the ISU and IPFW losses at home were bad but really should we feel that much better about year 1 of DD ? 

B1G only got 4 teams in the tourney that year and Miller didn’t beat 1 tourney quality team and was never in conversation for a tourney bid.  As you pointed out he lost to ISU at home by 20 +. 
 

DeVries first year they have beaten 3 tournament quality teams with 1 of those on the road and the B1G is expected to get 9 or 10 teams in the field.  This year isn’t what people wanted but it has gone way better then Archie’s first year 

[Loaded Chicken Sandwich]

Uhhh... Not great. 

This team is pretty pathetic from a hustle and attitude standpoint. They look like they just don't care 99% of games. It's really like watching Archie and Woodson teams for a 9th year straight. Offense just stands around waiting for ball screens. It's awful. It's embarrassing. 

[TheWatShot]

Is DeVries personable? Is he good at building relationships with recruits? That's going to be key from here. Missing the tournament sucks, but recruits and transfers will be more focused on next season than this one. A coach has to be able to connect with the players he wants. Our last two coaches were horrible at this. 

[Jeff Flabjohns]

Let’s take a step back and assess the product and the progress this season. Been pretty bad.

Offense, rebounding, hustle, leadership on the court. It’s all bad. 
And the highest ranked Freshman in the class can’t get on the floor, either because he’s not developing or coach doesn’t want to play him. Both are bad. 
 

This is the coach we’re going to bump up our already high NIL war chest for?! Can we see anything positive first?? I’m tired of people doing less with more in this role, over and over and over again. 
 

Save us Ryan Carr

[Pagoda]

5 minutes ago, TheWatShot said:

Is DeVries personable? Is he good at building relationships with recruits? That's going to be key from here. Missing the tournament sucks, but recruits and transfers will be more focused on next season than this one. A coach has to be able to connect with the players he wants. Our last two coaches were horrible at this. 

Hope so.  I can’t say I see it in his pressers — he comes off uncomfortable and uncertain.

Man, this was the exact type of first season you don’t want to have.  Red flags everywhere.  Ugh.

[Hoosier987]

The disappointing and alarming thing about this season was that it was obvious we needed length for rim protection and rebounding g but yet Devries decided to continue to get small players like Jason Drake who committed late and appears that he won’t see 1 min of game action this year. 

[EasyEJay]

2 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

B1G only got 4 teams in the tourney that year and Miller didn’t beat 1 tourney quality team and was never in conversation for a tourney bid.  As you pointed out he lost to ISU at home by 20 +. 
 

DeVries first year they have beaten 3 tournament quality teams with 1 of those on the road and the B1G is expected to get 9 or 10 teams in the field.  This year isn’t what people wanted but it has gone way better then Archie’s first year 

Conveniently Ignoring the fact that DD had millions of dollars to build his roster and a pick of thousands of portal guys . While Archie had mostly Tom Creans 3rd team guys lol . And by no means do I think Archie was a good or even average coach . 
 

there is absolutely 0 excuse for the last 4 games outside of Archie’s loss to Purdue at home in Coach Knights return were they couldn’t even score 50 points . This is the low point in IU basketball the last 25 years . 
 

The duration of the Big Ten season has BROKEN this “version” of IU aka Drake Eastern University . Coaches , players , support staff they look utterly and completely LOST . They look like a mid major trying to complete in the best league. 
 

in order of DeVries to fix this he’d have to change literally everything he’s done this year as a coach . From roster construction to offense / defense, scouting and everything else . You think that’s really possible in the next 8 months? No way .
 

Resources will diverted more and more to football and sports that can produce results. 

[Uspshoosier]

Just now, EasyEJay said:

You think that’s really possible in the next 8 months? No way .
 

Resources will diverted more and more to football and sports that can produce results. 

Couldn’t tell you but he is the coach moving forward so hopefully it figures it out and if not we can be on here in 3 years comparing the next one to the last 3.     Sounds like NIL will be a little more for him next year.    Can only go by how each did in their timeframe and Miller didn’t have 1 win against a tourney quality team in a historically bad B1G and DeVries has 3 wins against tourney quality teams in what could be a historically great B1G( they have chance to get the most bids ever this year)

[TheWatShot]

5 minutes ago, EasyEJay said:

Conveniently Ignoring the fact that DD had millions of dollars to build his roster and a pick of thousands of portal guys . While Archie had mostly Tom Creans 3rd team guys lol . And by no means do I think Archie was a good or even average coach . 
 

 

It took Archie 4 months to land his first recruit. Even Mike Woodson, who was too lazy to leave his office, got one within three weeks. 

 

DeVries isn't Archie, but I wish the comparison wasn't even necessary. 

[yogisballin]

1 hour ago, Hoosier987 said:

The disappointing and alarming thing about this season was that it was obvious we needed length for rim protection and rebounding g but yet Devries decided to continue to get small players like Jason Drake who committed late and appears that he won’t see 1 min of game action this year. 

Well, I mean we still need a PG honestly. So, not defending coach but he wasn’t wrong there either. But I get it, needed a big way worse

[Hoosier987]

13 minutes ago, yogisballin said:

Well, I mean we still need a PG honestly. So, not defending coach but he wasn’t wrong there either. But I get it, needed a big way worse

I think DD tried to stitch this team together quickly. It didn’t work. With more time recruiting and a full staff, I expect this portal season to be much better. I don’t think this team lost today because they weren’t trying, we just don’t have high major players outside Lamar and Tucker…it’s a mid major team 

[skhoosier2]

27 minutes ago, Hoosier987 said:

I think DD tried to stitch this team together quickly. It didn’t work. With more time recruiting and a full staff, I expect this portal season to be much better. I don’t think this team lost today because they weren’t trying, we just don’t have high major players outside Lamar and Tucker…it’s a mid major team 

What really makes you believe the portal season will be better?  Honest question. What has his offense or defense shown to make it enticing to play at IU?  His personality seems reserved so it does give me pause as to how he’s coming off to recruits. I really think Dolson ran out of options. He got a lot of NOs and Darien was one that said yes. I’m unsure if I see anything that makes me think he’s better than the last 2 coaches. Hoping I’m wrong and that Carr does work miracles with a better roster which makes a difference on the floor. 

[str8baller]

3 minutes ago, skhoosier2 said:

What really makes you believe the portal season will be better?  Honest question. What has his offense or defense shown to make it enticing to play at IU?

At some point we’re just fans and logic goes by the wayside. But for my sanity I’ll be telling myself the following two things: 

1. Carr will make a huge difference. Well once again have a top 10 type budget and should have a top 25 roster. 
 

2. I didn’t think our base offense and defense were an issue Xs and Os-wise. I think the 4-out, quick trigger on 3s style should be appealing for most kids these days.  
 

Now if we want to be down because of things like other teams adjusting to what we do and having no counter, some of the rotations and in game coaching, the regression here at the end of the season, I get it. I wonder if there aren’t some personality issues. To me it’s no surprise that Conerway goes out of the starting lineup and we go on a little run. Then his first two games back for him playing big minutes are a record loss to Purdue and home loss to NW. Maybe it’s him, maybe it’s someone else, but we may have some addition by subtraction going on too. 
 

But there’s no universe in which we shouldn’t be in the tourney comfortably next year. 

[Uspshoosier]

27 minutes ago, skhoosier2 said:

What really makes you believe the portal season will be better?  Honest question

Because he assembled a portal haul the year before at his only year at West Virginia that was able to beat Arizona and Zags in the non conference and conference wins at Kansas and a home win against Iowa St.   just got to hope th fact his staff not being all assembled played a part in the misses this year.  Won’t know for sure until we see how his second portal cycle shakes  out 

[Hoosierfan2017]

Outside of Dorn’s linsanity run, this has largely been another miserable season. At least they become more tolerable the more of them you watch, I guess. 

[Hoosier987]

39 minutes ago, skhoosier2 said:

What really makes you believe the portal season will be better?  Honest question. What has his offense or defense shown to make it enticing to play at IU?  His personality seems reserved so it does give me pause as to how he’s coming off to recruits. I really think Dolson ran out of options. He got a lot of NOs and Darien was one that said yes. I’m unsure if I see anything that makes me think he’s better than the last 2 coaches. Hoping I’m wrong and that Carr does work miracles with a better roster which makes a difference on the floor. 

I think DeVries is our best coach since Kelvin. With Ryan Carr and a year with the staff, he’s been able to build relationships and target players he wants. See our high school recruits. Those are high major players. I suspect we’re going have a better portal season. 

[Shooter]

2 hours ago, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said:

Uhhh... Not great. 

This team is pretty pathetic from a hustle and attitude standpoint. They look like they just don't care 99% of games. It's really like watching Archie and Woodson teams for a 9th year straight. Offense just stands around waiting for ball screens. It's awful. It's embarrassing. 

I mean neither team is very good. But this team looks nothing like Woodson's group from last year. Completely different style of ball.

[AH1971]

3 hours ago, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said:

Uhhh... Not great. 

This team is pretty pathetic from a hustle and attitude standpoint. They look like they just don't care 99% of games. It's really like watching Archie and Woodson teams for a 9th year straight. Offense just stands around waiting for ball screens. It's awful. It's embarrassing. 

I see a team that’s vastly undersized and vastly undermanned. Reality is that this is one of the least talented teams in the conference. I don’t think effort and hustle is an issue like it has been in years past, we’re just not very good. Wilkerson is the only guy who would start on every B10 team and Tucker would maybe start on a handful of non-contending teams. Sam Alexis, who does give a ton of effort and energy, was the 10th/11th man for Florida last year. Him being our go to big says it all as to where this team stands.

[Alford Bailey]

He is a better coach than Archie but has the personality of a cardboard box similar to Miller.