Transfer Portal w IU Interest

[hoosiersoxfan]

Just now, Bowhunter said:

Surprised he was rated 227 in high school. Kid is a baller! . 

Some kids just fly under the radar.  What was Vic rated before he came to IU?  

[ebridges24]

1 hour ago, HoosierHuddle said:

The sniping back and forth and complaining about mods and what is or is not on topic looks a whole like the Peegs boards ha. Regardless, some mostly rambling thoughts on potential roster construction as we see IU's targets emerge and visits scheduled...

-At guard, IU is very close to securing a commitment from Myles Rice. Appears we just need to not screw up the visit this weekend. Rice is a very good first domino to fall. He has a great story (cancer survivor), is a sophomore by year but is old by age so you'd hope he can be a leader with maturity, very good at getting to the basket, athletic, his FT% suggests his three-point shooting could improve quite a bit next season, plus-defender with good size. 

-IU is favored for Kanaan Carlyle. He and Rice are apparently quite tight. High potential with multiple years of eligibility. Not a good perimeter shooter but I do think he helps IU quite a bit. 

-If we succeed and added Rice and Carlyle, that's a big upgrade in the background and then we can swing big to hopefully land Ryan Conwell. I would imagine that would remove Connor Hickman. Heck, landing Rice and Carlyle might remove Hickman anyway. Conwell is a better player but Hickman would be a nice addition as well. The one thing missing from that backcourt (if adding Rice and Carlyle) is a proven knockdown shooter but the ability to penetrate and get downhill with the ball and have some dynamism from our backcourt is a major upgrade from what we had in 2023-2024.

-That brings us to the frontcourt. Nothing is unanimous but nearly all of us want to see IU play more time with one big instead of two. As much as I want to see that for long stretches, it does seem grounded in reality. Mike Woodson told everyone, he believes what IU did systematically on offense worked, we just needed better shooters/guards to execute it. So, with that as a near pre-requisite...I think Oumar Ballo is the best option on the board at center. I know IU's ceiling with him isn't particularly sky-high but he sure does raise the floor (in my opinion). Advanced analytics are not everything but his Box Score Plus/Minus (BPM) is 8.1...the exact same as Ware's was last season. He's a monster physically, an elite rebounder and an above-average rebounder (including a really good offensive rebounder). He's also very good in the lob game on pick and rolls, something that could be really effective with Myles Rice and some with Trey Galloway (don't know about Carlyle with that as Stanford didn't really try that). Ballo is not as good of a passer out of post sets as Amari Williams is but he's better at basically everything else than Williams is (same thing for Payne). The big red flag is FT shooting for Ballo. Ideally, IU lands Ballo and somehow convinces Ben Humrichous to play 20-25 minutes. They could do lineups with Malik-Ballo, Malik-Humrichous, Humrichous-Ballo, Mgbako-Ballo, etc...Lord knows Malik gets in enough foul trouble that there would still be minutes available. Selling Humrichous on that will not be easy though. 

-If IU added Carlyle/Rice/Conwell, the perimeter defense would be SOOOO much better than it was last season. Whew, that's a lot of rambling and it's likely all for naught anyway as the end result will probably look much different than the expectations anyway. Go Hoosiers.

appreciate your analysis

[Demo]

6 minutes ago, hoosiersoxfan said:

Some kids just fly under the radar.  What was Vic rated before he came to IU?  

Memory ain’t what it used to be, but I seem to recall he was 130ish or so by Rivals and Sheehey was either outside the 150 or barely inside of it. The best example is probably OG, who wasn’t ranked anywhere.

[IUCrazy2]

32 minutes ago, Schreckbagger said:

But it's fun to watch members of the Woodson Derangment Syndrome here squirm with any possibilities of his success.

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Nobody is squirming. 

[Chris007]

1 hour ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

Hate to keep bringing him up, but Tyme confidently says Rice to Indiana is done.


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I think you, me and about 30 other people have already said that.

[Chris007]

42 minutes ago, BGVille Hoosierfan said:

Tyme blocked me on Twitter. A lot of speculation that is a burner for an assistant coach even though he says he works in the housing department at IU.

I promise he doesn’t work there. Not enough room for two know it alls.

[Uspshoosier]

 

[bird4par]

43 minutes ago, Schreckbagger said:

But it's fun to watch members of the Woodson Derangment Syndrome here squirm with any possibilities of his success.

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Mike Woodsons coaching ability makes bird4par squirm. 

[Muskie for three]

6 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

 

Looks like a young Luke Brown . 

[Artie86]

11 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

 

Man,….. if this works out, Rice and his type/style of play is going to be a welcomed site to this the IU team! He is smooth!

[Go_Hoosiers]

11 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

 

His jump shot looks fundamentally sound and he has a quick release. No reason to think he won't shoot it more efficiently next year.

[Dave from Dayton]

It's the age-old issue.  No coach has really had the players with the right skill set to employ in his scheme.

RMK, at the end, did not get his smart, team-oriented, ball players...until the Jeffries team which was too late.

Crean did not get the Dwayne pro or greyhound wing players.  But he did not realize that.

Archie didn't get his stellar guard that he needed.  That and long-limbed defensive oriented team players.

Woody has not gotten his outside-oriented ballers that can create and handle the ball. Where is that PG and SG and Sf?

It is tough to coach a team that doesn't fit.

 

[Chris007]

34 minutes ago, Schreckbagger said:

Try some Preparation H.....

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Do you bring anything to the thread?  Who do you think Woodson gets next?

[Trish]

So what’s the big deal with this Rice kid? He’s shooting 28% from 3, (okay that’s Mike Woodson style I’ll give you that), he averages 3 turnovers a game, but puts up 15PPG in the worst power conference. 
 

He’s listed at 6’3”, that’s ideal. Can he defend? I’m too lazy to pull up Synergy. Indiana needs bodies I guess. 

[bird4par]

38 minutes ago, Schreckbagger said:

Try some Preparation H.....

 

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A gummy helps, but it is still miserable. 

[IUc2016]

1 minute ago, Trish said:

So what’s the big deal with this Rice kid? He’s shooting 28% from 3, (okay that’s Mike Woodson style I’ll give you that), he averages 3 turnovers a game, but puts up 15PPG in the worst power conference. 
 

He’s listed at 6’3”, that’s ideal. Can he defend? I’m too lazy to pull up Synergy. Indiana needs bodies I guess. 

PAC 12 freshman of the year. 1st team all league. 
 

His advanced analytics have been shared multiple times. He’s good, probably very good

[IU - Kaulie]

3 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

Do you bring anything to the thread?  Who do you think Woodson gets next?

Unfortunately, I think who he targets/prioritize and who he should target/prioritize are two very different things.

[Chris007]

11 minutes ago, IU - Kaulie said:

Unfortunately, I think who he targets/prioritize and who he should target/prioritize are two very different things.

I agree with that but Conwell has to be next. We need a shooter bad. But I wouldn’t be surprised if the Stanford kid is next. I don’t care what big man we get. I only like the Evansville kid 

[steubenhoosier]

17 minutes ago, Trish said:

So what’s the big deal with this Rice kid? He’s shooting 28% from 3, (okay that’s Mike Woodson style I’ll give you that), he averages 3 turnovers a game, but puts up 15PPG in the worst power conference. 
 

He’s listed at 6’3”, that’s ideal. Can he defend? I’m too lazy to pull up Synergy. Indiana needs bodies I guess. 

He did overcome cancer, so that might have something to do with those stats 

[IUCrazy2]

25 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

Do you bring anything to the thread?  Who do you think Woodson gets next?

I think the big guy from Arizona.