They “Retired” Coach Woodson Thread

[JerryYeagley23]

So, word I’ve gotten today from someone very close to the situation is “eerily quiet” today. I think the plans are finalized and ready. But Dolson and Co. are being very intentional about optics and want it to go down when the timing is right so that it doesn’t crate red flags in the media and coaching world. I’d say 30% chance a bad loss at NW does it, but a 60% chance blowout losses in Feb. to Purdue, Wiscy, Mich, Mich St. will be the need for the mid-season plan. 

[johnsoniu]

3 minutes ago, HoosierAccipiter said:

We played them twice that season. IU got throttled in one of the first games of the season, then returned the favor in the regionals. 

We lost the opening game that season to them 87-72. The game listed we won by that score

[J34]

58 minutes ago, ClarkCoHoosier said:

This is what I’ve been telling my husband. If he were coach in this situation I would be strongly urging him to announce his retirement effective immediately. Why go through that again. Because if the next home game goes bad, it could get uglier than it was at the Illinois game. 

My wife and kids have said the same thing. They would not allow me to put myself through that. Put the ego aside and let us still separate the player from the coach. 

[Ryno6284]

2 hours ago, Chris007 said:

This part always cracks me up. We’re not even to Sunday or Monday yet and no one said anything was a done deal, just that there is a plan in place for an interim coach. So we start tearing people down because it’s not working out exactly how people want it to. Fun times.

Reading comprehension is a real struggle for some.

[coonhounds]

So, word I’ve gotten today from someone very close to the situation is “eerily quiet” today. I think the plans are finalized and ready. But Dolson and Co. are being very intentional about optics and want it to go down when the timing is right so that it doesn’t crate red flags in the media and coaching world. I’d say 30% chance a bad loss at NW does it, but a 60% chance blowout losses in Feb. to Purdue, Wiscy, Mich, Mich St. will be the need for the mid-season plan. 

To be fair if they lose bad to michigan m st purdue and so forth it won't be mid season and they may as well ride it out till the end

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[johnsoniu]

8 minutes ago, Scotty R said:

We also played UCLA in the opening game that year and got blasted 

We lost to them by 15 to open the season. The game and date on that list we won by that score. It was the year Knight had the bullwhip at practice and near the end of the blowout Cheaney was whipping RMK with a towel 

 

Back on topic: Fire Woodson

[IUFAN1976]

5 minutes ago, JerryYeagley23 said:

So, word I’ve gotten today from someone very close to the situation is “eerily quiet” today. I think the plans are finalized and ready. But Dolson and Co. are being very intentional about optics and want it to go down when the timing is right so that it doesn’t crate red flags in the media and coaching world. I’d say 30% chance a bad loss at NW does it, but a 60% chance blowout losses in Feb. to Purdue, Wiscy, Mich, Mich St. will be the need for the mid-season plan. 

It can’t happen soon enough 

[coonhounds]

Whoever the next coach is i hope they run up to woodson crean style at some point yelling how he tried to wreck the program!

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[steubenhoosier]

The funeral in Calbert’s family definitely puts things on hold.

A smart pr move would be to announce whatever the plan is while the spotlight is elsewhere. Say, in the midst of the college football national championship noise.The optics wouldn’t matter so much because the announcement would be lost in all the football hype 

[RaceToTheTop]

10 minutes ago, JerryYeagley23 said:

So, word I’ve gotten today from someone very close to the situation is “eerily quiet” today. I think the plans are finalized and ready. But Dolson and Co. are being very intentional about optics and want it to go down when the timing is right so that it doesn’t crate red flags in the media and coaching world. I’d say 30% chance a bad loss at NW does it, but a 60% chance blowout losses in Feb. to Purdue, Wiscy, Mich, Mich St. will be the need for the mid-season plan. 

Optics of the firing would have been good if it had been after the Illinois loss.

[MikeRoberts]

4 minutes ago, RaceToTheTop said:

Optics of the firing would have been good if it had been after the Illinois loss.

Not having a plan in place already makes me less confident in the leadership. One should have been crafted and put on the back burner before they returned from the Bahamas 

[Capt. Crimson]

We lost to them by 15 to open the season. The game and date on that list we won by that score. It was the year Knight had the bullwhip at practice and near the end of the blowout Cheaney was whipping RMK with a towel 
 
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[Chris007]

8 minutes ago, MikeRoberts said:

Not having a plan in place already makes me less confident in the leadership. One should have been crafted and put on the back burner before they returned from the Bahamas 

I agree with this. I think I would have started working on one last spring when Quinn made me keep him one more year. Could have had it figured out during the summer.

[johnsoniu]

9 minutes ago, Capt. Crimson said:

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As you stated before, the picture it paints is pretty clear

[ziggyiu]

38 minutes ago, JerryYeagley23 said:

So, word I’ve gotten today from someone very close to the situation is “eerily quiet” today. I think the plans are finalized and ready. But Dolson and Co. are being very intentional about optics and want it to go down when the timing is right so that it doesn’t crate red flags in the media and coaching world. I’d say 30% chance a bad loss at NW does it, but a 60% chance blowout losses in Feb. to Purdue, Wiscy, Mich, Mich St. will be the need for the mid-season plan. 

It sounds like they are fine with letting this get uglier. 

[Uspshoosier]

37 minutes ago, coonhounds said:

Whoever the next coach is i hope they run up to woodson crean style at some point yelling how he tried to wreck the program!

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[RaceToTheTop]

15 minutes ago, Capt. Crimson said:

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That list isn't accurate.  In Crean's first year, Notre Dame beat Indiana by 38, St. Joe's beat Indiana by 34, Wake Forest beat Indiana by 25, Illinois beat Indiana by 31, Ohio State beat Indiana by 24, Michigan State beat Indiana by 28, and Wisconsin beat Indiana by 24.  It also doesn't include Woodson's 29 point loss to St. Mary's in the NCAA tournament.

Just adding in those losses alone, the top 10 would be:

1. Minnesota by 50 in 1994 (Knight)
2. Illinois by 48 in 1956 (McCracken
3. Michigan by 48 in 1998 (Knight)
4. Notre Dame by 38 in 2008 (Crean)
5. St. Joe's by 34 in 2008 (Crean)
6. Illinois by 31 in 2009 (Crean)
7. Purdue by 31 in 1990 (Knight)
8. Michigan State by 29 in 2000 (Knight)
9. St. Mary's by 29 in 2022 (Woodson)
10. Three 28 point losses, one by Miller, one by Crean, and one by Woodson.

 

[IUFAN1976]

3 hours ago, Scotty R said:

I think he should be talked into coming out and announce he is retiring at the end of the year. Let him coach out the year like Davis did when he announced he wasn't coming back the next season. Like I said the fans know the real story but nationally and even potential candidates would likely look at firing a coach with this record as a bad look.

He is too stubborn to do that.  This is the same delusional coach that said he did his job last year and he thinks they are playing good basketball now, even after two back to back 25 point loses.  He has a huge ego and he isn’t going to do that because in his delusional mind, he thinks he can still turn it around 

[OKHOOSIER]

4 minutes ago, RaceToTheTop said:

That list isn't accurate.  In Crean's first year, Notre Dame beat Indiana by 38, St. Joe's beat Indiana by 34, Wake Forest beat Indiana by 25, Illinois beat Indiana by 31, Ohio State beat Indiana by 24, Michigan State beat Indiana by 28, and Wisconsin beat Indiana by 24.  It also doesn't include Woodson's 29 point loss to St. Mary's in the NCAA tournament.

Just adding in those losses alone, the top 10 would be:

1. Minnesota by 50 in 1994 (Knight)
2. Illinois by 48 in 1956 (McCracken
3. Michigan by 48 in 1998 (Knight)
4. Notre Dame by 38 in 2008 (Crean)
5. St. Joe's by 34 in 2008 (Crean)
6. Illinois by 31 in 2009 (Crean)
7. Purdue by 31 in 1990 (Knight)
8. Michigan State by 29 in 2000 (Knight)
9. St. Mary's by 29 in 2022 (Woodson)
10. Three 28 point losses, one by Miller, one by Crean, and one by Woodson.

 

I think it’s generally fair to toss out Crean’s first season of walk ons. I’m guessing that was the methodology when he made the list. Comparing those to any of the other losses isn’t really fair to Crean or the players he had IMO

[Ryno6284]

15 minutes ago, OKHOOSIER said:

I think it’s generally fair to toss out Crean’s first season of walk ons. I’m guessing that was the methodology when he made the list. Comparing those to any of the other losses isn’t really fair to Crean or the players he had IMO

They are still in the record books though.  Maybe should have an asterisk beside them losses?