Any Chance Purdue and Matt Painter Part Ways?

[Herotime]

Seems like a buying him out would be fairly inexpensive.

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They aren’t happy over on the old Hammer and Rails. What would your advice to their AD be?

Edited March 18, 2023 by Herotime

[WayneFleekHoosier]

Nope


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[IU - Kaulie]

I’m going with 0%.  
 

I will say this though that I think a team takes on the attitude of its head coach and Purdue was scared last night.

[BGleas]

Firing Matt Painter would be crazy. 

[TheWatShot]

It's far more likely Painter would move on, and I put that chance at near zero. 

[WayneFleekHoosier]

I’m going with 0%.  
 
I will say this though that I think a team takes on the attitude of its head coach and Purdue was scared last night.

I tend to agree. However, last night was the most I’ve seen him complain to the refs about missed calls and I can’t really disagree with him. The refs let the little team scrap and they took full advantage of it. But yes, crunch time everyone was scared except Edey and he never really got a chance to touch the ball. Big time coaching fail yesterday and I loved every second on it.


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[Herotime]

Just now, BGleas said:

Firing Matt Painter would be crazy. 

I don’t disagree, BUT I was just having a convo with my brother and he makes a compelling argument that they will be perpetually mediocre with Painter. Three double-digit seed losses (North Texas, St. Peter’s, Fairleigh Dickinson)

the natives are restless 

[AKHoosier]

It's way more likely he accepts a job somewhere else, which could happen eventually. Probably not, but who knows. Sometimes a change of scenery is needed. 

I want Painter at PU more than I want Shrewsberry there, that's for damn sure.

Micah Shrewsberry will probably be on my short list whenever Woodson moves on.

[Demo]

Impossible for them to do better. Now, it’s possible he could do better….

[BGleas]

Just now, Herotime said:

I don’t disagree, BUT I was just having a convo with my brother and he makes a compelling argument that they will be perpetually mediocre with Painter. Three double-digit seed losses (North Texas, St. Peter’s, Fairleigh Dickinson)

the natives are restless 

They haven't been mediocre though. Losing in the tournament doesn't make them mediocre. Bad losses? Absolutely. 

But, he's won 25+ games in 6 of the last 8 years. During that time he's won outright or shared 3 Big Ten regular season titles and a BTT Title. He's been to 4 Sweet Sixteens and an Elite 8. 

I get it, getting to Final Four's and winning a National Title is the ultimate goal, but fans put way too much on a single elimination tournament. 

Again, the losses the last 3 tournaments have been bad. I'm not debating against that. But you don't fire a coach with his record and consistency. 

I mean, Jay Wright was a coach that couldn't win in March...until he did. There are other examples of coaches that took a long time to get to a Final Four or win a title. 

I hope Purdue and Painter never get there, but the tournament is about 'at-bats' as a high seed, and Matt Painter gives that. Firing him would be a huge mistake. 

[Stuhoo]

Zero. Zero chance whatsoever 

[AKHoosier]

11 minutes ago, BGleas said:

They haven't been mediocre though. Losing in the tournament doesn't make them mediocre. Bad losses? Absolutely. 

But, he's won 25+ games in 6 of the last 8 years. During that time he's won outright or shared 3 Big Ten regular season titles and a BTT Title. He's been to 4 Sweet Sixteens and an Elite 8. 

I get it, getting to Final Four's and winning a National Title is the ultimate goal, but fans put way too much on a single elimination tournament. 

Again, the losses the last 3 tournaments have been bad. I'm not debating against that. But you don't fire a coach with his record and consistency. 

I mean, Jay Wright was a coach that couldn't win in March...until he did. There are other examples of coaches that took a long time to get to a Final Four or win a title. 

I hope Purdue and Painter never get there, but the tournament is about 'at-bats' as a high seed, and Matt Painter gives that. Firing him would be a huge mistake. 

Bo Ryan was one of those coaches who couldn't win in March either, until he did.

2 Final 4s and a National Championship appearance made all that talk go away real quick.

All it takes is 1 year to break through.

[BGleas]

1 minute ago, AKHoosier said:

Bo Ryan was one of those coaches who couldn't win in March either, until he did.

2 Final 4s and a National Championship appearance made all that talk go away real quick.

All it takes is 1 year to break through.

Exactly. Especially when you're pretty consistent in getting top 5 or so seeds, with the occasional 1-2 seed mixed in. 

Before someone references Crean, he never had that consistency. 

Keep racking up top 4-5 seed apparences and you'll more then likely breakthrough. 

Jay Wright, Bo Ryan, Tony Bennett, Lute Olsen back in the day, etc. 

[Scotty R]

25 minutes ago, Herotime said:

I don’t disagree, BUT I was just having a convo with my brother and he makes a compelling argument that they will be perpetually mediocre with Painter. Three double-digit seed losses (North Texas, St. Peter’s, Fairleigh Dickinson)

the natives are restless 

That describes Purdue history in a nutshell. They have to realize they wouldn't get a top coachnin the first place but the last couple of years shows you top coaches aren't leaving their current job.

[HoosierTrav]

They’d be SILLY to even consider it. Painter would be wise to throw his hat in the ring elsewhere. I’m surprised a bigger name school hasn’t tried to pry him away already. 

[HoosierAloha]

8 minutes ago, HoosierTrav said:

They’d be SILLY to even consider it. Painter would be wise to throw his hat in the ring elsewhere. I’m surprised a bigger name school hasn’t tried to pry him away already. 

Missouri tried several years ago ;)

[Alford Bailey]

Back to back 29 win seasons. Purdue is not gonna do better….

[Alford Bailey]

Painters recent teams were not built for tournament success IMO. Way to one dimensional. Those mid 2000 Hummel teams is where probably should have made a FF.

[Brass Cannon]

7 minutes ago, Alford Bailey said:

Back to back 29 win seasons. Purdue is not gonna do better….

Painter probably could though 

[AKHoosier]

20 minutes ago, Alford Bailey said:

Painters recent teams were not built for tournament success IMO. Way to one dimensional. Those mid 2000 Hummel teams is where probably should have made a FF.

I agree. I still think despite his recent success, that 2009-2010 team was his best team at Purdue. Unfortunately when Hummel tore his ACL all that came crashing down.

They could have won it all IMO.