*RANT HERE*

[AZ Hoosier]

2 minutes ago, BleedCubbieBlue said:

I would legitimately like to know how much coaching CMW actually does. Didn't we find out last year that the assistant coaches take turns doing the scouting and developing the game plan? If that is the case, do the assistant coaches also determine the substitution patterns or does CMW make all of the in-game decisions. I think it would be interesting to know what the actual division of labor looks like.

Substitutions are Woody's call... this is from the Doyle article:

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Mike Woodson doesn’t understand that some of his NBA tricks, well, they don’t work in college.

The way he uses his “second unit,” for example. That’s what he calls his reserve — “my second unit” — and he generally plays four of them with one starter. That’s how it goes in the NBA, but here’s the thing: Everybody on an NBA team is really good. Almost all of them can make a shot, handle the ball, hit a free throw.

Listen, at a basketball school like IU, you’d like to think everyone on that team would be really good too, that almost all of them can make a shot, handle the ball, hit a free throw. Roughly 2½ years into his tenure, Woodson has a roster that cannot do that. Check out social media when the Hoosiers play, and this happens every game, win or lose. The second-unit lineups look wonky out there, a place where points go to die, and IU fans are freaking out and wondering why Woodson coaches like he’s still in the NBA.

And then on Tuesday night, asked a catty question on that topic, Woodson raised his back and clawed back.

“I’m not going sit here and answer that question when it comes to the fans — or you,” Woodson said. “I’ll (continue) to go to my bench, which I’ve done this season and I’ve gotten some good results, here and there.”

 

[Stuhoo]

12 minutes ago, BleedCubbieBlue said:

I would legitimately like to know how much coaching CMW actually does. Didn't we find out last year that the assistant coaches take turns doing the scouting and developing the game plan? If that is the case, do the assistant coaches also determine the substitution patterns or does CMW make all of the in-game decisions. I think it would be interesting to know what the actual division of labor looks like.

That's completely standard practice at all D1 programs.

[RaceToTheTop]

The fact that Woodson won't answer a reporter's question about substitution patterns and say that he's going to continue going to mass substitutions says that part isn't going to get fixed.  

You can't continually have stretches where NEITHER Reneau or Ware are on the floor.  Reneau is getting 29 minutes, Ware 31 but there seems to be a 5 minute segment every game where neither are on the floor.

[Dave from Dayton]

When the Hoosiers hit 25% of their free throws, it's not a joke.

But in Xavier's defense, he at least was grabbing the balls.

I'm going to cancel my subscription to all these issues.                      /s

When I was young, I went to a boarding school.  All I learned was how to get on an airplane.

To make a long story short, I became an editor.

Got my Covid 19 booster shot yesterday.  Did you know that ants never get sick?  They have little anty bodies.

A penguin walked into a bar.  Bartender asks if there's something he needs.  Penguin says: "I'm looking for my brother."  Bartender asks: "What's he look like?"

Hey, don't complain.  It's free.  

If you complain, then I will post more.  But, they're not as funny.  

 

 

[RaceToTheTop]

36 minutes ago, OldBuddy67 said:

You answered that in you rpost about the staff earlier. He wasn't a yes man and Woodson didn't like it!

100% not why he got fired, but it's been beaten to death already.

[Scotty R]

18 minutes ago, BleedCubbieBlue said:

I would legitimately like to know how much coaching CMW actually does. Didn't we find out last year that the assistant coaches take turns doing the scouting and developing the game plan? If that is the case, do the assistant coaches also determine the substitution patterns or does CMW make all of the in-game decisions. I think it would be interesting to know what the actual division of labor looks like.

That happens at every college with the assistants do the game plans.

I have tried hard time stay positive but last night was probably the last straw. This team is an embarrassment and this team plays with passion is enthusiasm.

Bad subbing

To many turnovers

Can't rebound

Rinse and repeat

[Hovadipo]

The circle of IU basketball coping has come back around to Fife again. All is right in the world.

[Loaded Chicken Sandwich]

5 minutes ago, Hovadipo said:

The circle of IU basketball coping has come back around to Fife again. All is right in the world.

Would never want him as a head coach but he had to know something about basketball. If only he gave a sh!t about NIL.

[Hovadipo]

1 minute ago, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said:

but he had to know something about basketball

I don't think this was ever in question.

[HoosierCoop]

So besides Walsh, the other two assistants are supposed to be awesome recruiters.  So I've heard.  Any evidence to back that up?

[realTomCrean]

I'm not saying a HC can't have hobbies, enjoy a cigar, drink, or kick back with some buddies from time to time - but when your team (players, assistants) are barely treading water, struggling with basics of basketball (Free throws, blocking out, TO issues due to lack of O gameplan/execution, middling at best scouting reports, and numerous off-court issues) and I see the HC smokin and jokin, talking about tee times, telling press that he won't answer their (or the fans) questions about obvious mistakes.. maybe coach should start logging some 14–16-hour days consecutively (maybe string that into a few weeks w/ no breaks) and worry about cigars/tee times/friends less until April. It's just a slap in the face and makes the feeling of apathy so prevalent. I'm sure the will to win is there w/ Woodson, but is the willing sacrifice of the lush lifestyle to grind it out there?

From my perspective this operation is being ran like someone enjoying retirement while collecting a huge check. Retirement well deserved for Woody, but the lifestyle that is being displayed through social media does not particularly give me or any fan confidence that there is desperation to win at a large scale.  

Are Dan Hurley, Painter, Larranaga, Barnes, eg smoking cigars w/ old buddies and posting on X or are their noses to the grindstone? Which would you rather have? 

If Woody makes a habit of last night's press conference that dude can KICK ROCKS. A valid question was asked and instead of being transparent and honest, he responded with "I'm not answering your question or the fans." There is no better way to symbolize your nose in the air, "I'm above you" than to respond to a valid Q in that fashion. It made my blood boil, sounded like a career politician. 

[Golfman25]

2 hours ago, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said:

Our staff is bad. We don't have coaches behind Woody. Not a one. We have some dumb advisor Woody likes that sit by him. Then we have 3 top assistants who couldn't coach basketball to save their lives. If we had a legitimate basketball mind anywhere on the bench, we'd be in better shape. If we could replace Woody's "advisor" right hand man, with anyone with a basketball IQ above 0, we'd be better.

 

So no .. this staff isn't capable of fixing it's problems. Yes men. All they are.

Hate to bring it up, and not sure the kid is any messiah, but this may go back to the Dane Fife issues.  

[Hovadipo]

12 minutes ago, realTomCrean said:

From my perspective this operation is being ran like someone enjoying retirement while collecting a huge check.

I think it's less retirement and more living the lifestyle of when he was in the NBA. 

Not saying it's right or conducive to winning in college, but I think it's yet another NBA "habit" that isn't going to change with him.

[Loaded Chicken Sandwich]

2 minutes ago, Hovadipo said:

I think it's less retirement and more living the lifestyle of when he was in the NBA. 

Not saying it's right or conducive to winning in college, but I think it's yet another NBA "habit" that isn't going to change with him.

And a job he wasn't even good at.

[Chris007]

3 hours ago, Kentuckysucks said:

If a change is made, very unlikely after this season but almost guaranteed after year 4, it will almost certainly be Dusty May unless by some extremely remote chance he who shall not be named makes it known through the back channels that he finally wants the job.

I like Dusty as a person and coach but he still has to prove it some more. Archie fooled me by winning at Dayton and having a good tournament run. As the Who say We won't get fooled again. Dusty has some really bad losses this season and needs to right the ship. He's in my top 5 though

[Chris007]

1 hour ago, Ryno6284 said:

He knows basketball!

Where is he coaching?

[Loaded Chicken Sandwich]

3 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

I like Dusty as a person and coach but he still has to prove it some more. Archie fooled me by winning at Dayton and having a good tournament run. As the Who say We won't get fooled again. Dusty has some really bad losses this season and needs to right the ship. He's in my top 5 though

Who we get is tough... But good Lord can we get someone that can coach an offense? Archie and Woody are basically the same person. And we hated Archie-ball

[Chris007]

Just now, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said:

Who we get is tough... But good Lord can we get someone that can coach an offense? Archie and Woody are basically the same person. And we hated Archie-ball

Sky might be falling but I agree with you, I want a fun modern offense with lots of shooters

[AKHoosier]

8 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

I like Dusty as a person and coach but he still has to prove it some more. Archie fooled me by winning at Dayton and having a good tournament run. As the Who say We won't get fooled again. Dusty has some really bad losses this season and needs to right the ship. He's in my top 5 though

My thoughts too but remember Dayton has a very solid program, with or without Archie.

FAU was built by Dusty May essentially, and he had them in the Final 4. I'd like to see more out of him too, but to me if he so much as gets back to the NCAAT and wins a game or 2 then I'd sign him immediately. 

[BH33]

8 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

I like Dusty as a person and coach but he still has to prove it some more. Archie fooled me by winning at Dayton and having a good tournament run. As the Who say We won't get fooled again. Dusty has some really bad losses this season and needs to right the ship. He's in my top 5 though

who are your other 4 ?