hoosierbgh Posted October 19, 2023 Posted October 19, 2023 24 minutes ago, Ngw7183 said: I will say this i really don’t believe this is some back and forth thing this week like being portrayed. I have found logic almost always wins in these recruitments and people get too tied up in emotions. Logic says this was decided when he set the date, stopped coaches from visiting, recorded announcement stuff, connected when Cuban for NIL, etc. could he have recorded 2 versions, sure. I have just been involved with athletes making these decisions and it is usually a done deal when announcement date is set. Winning party is informed few days prior and losers in subsequent days. Nothing points to this being some heavy weight fight back and forth when coaches can’t even visit again. With that being my belief, there has for sure been a concerted effort by someone to make it seems as much. Could be family, could be Cal, media etc. Things like Kentucky gaining ground. Like it is some percentage game. Even Chris Beasmore is now changing his tune and saying it is pointing more to Kentucky. Somebody is driving that narrative. Some way it was happening with MM I guess my point is, if it is Kentucky then it has been and that I find hard to believe. p.s. - the Trilly thing was about Ian Jackson. He liked a quote tweet where a Kentucky fan said sometimes the best wins are what you avoid. They were said to be his leader until last minute. It is possible that some kids set a date to help spur them to make a decision between two choices when neither choice has gained any separation. Possible but not likely in most cases. In this case that would be totally out of character from what we've seen from this recruitment so far. Boogie has consistently sought out whatever information he needed to make a decision even up to creating an event where the 3 main coaches come and speak at an event, in addition to standard recruiting visits, to finalize or confirm his decision. A kid that does that level of due diligence is unlikely to set an announcement date before knowing what he is going to announce. Of course a kid can always change his mind and there's plenty of cases where that has happened. That again, would seem to be out of character for this recruitment. Tasmanian Devil and Ngw7183 2 Quote
go iu bb Posted October 19, 2023 Posted October 19, 2023 6 minutes ago, HoosierFan1994 said: Because you can't spend all this time on 3 recruits and only get one. They chose not to prioritize Mustaf, Betsey, Swartz, and others because they narrowed it down to these 3. Also...I don't want this to be negative at all! I applaud what they are doing. But I think in this approach you need to get at least 2. We have one so far. In the past, sure. With the transfer portal it makes more sense to take chances like this. Combine that with the likelihood of highly ranked recruits becoming available again in the spring and Woodson's ability to land them, I don't really see too much reason to worry if IU misses on both Boogie and Queen. I'd rather have one or both, sure, but team building isn't the same as it was just a few years ago. hoosierbgh, Ngw7183, thebigweave and 3 others 6 Quote
JSHoosier Posted October 19, 2023 Posted October 19, 2023 A part of me wants to think setting the date right after McNeeley committed and doing it the day of HH is a good sign (BBM was the 13), but could be a coincidence. BGVille Hoosierfan, lillurk, thebigweave and 2 others 5 Quote
CSP Posted October 19, 2023 Posted October 19, 2023 15 minutes ago, HoosierFan1994 said: Because you can't spend all this time on 3 recruits and only get one. They chose not to prioritize Mustaf, Betsey, Swartz, and others because they narrowed it down to these 3. Also...I don't want this to be negative at all! I applaud what they are doing. But I think in this approach you need to get at least 2. We have one so far. Meh. They seem like completely different entities to me, and I'm not enticed with Queen. Quote
hoosierbgh Posted October 19, 2023 Posted October 19, 2023 7 minutes ago, HoosierFan1994 said: Because you can't spend all this time on 3 recruits and only get one. They chose not to prioritize Mustaf, Betsey, Swartz, and others because they narrowed it down to these 3. Also...I don't want this to be negative at all! I applaud what they are doing. But I think in this approach you need to get at least 2. We have one so far. Sure you can. In fact if you primarily go after the highest rated recruits long enough, it is bound to happen sooner or later. In the era of transfer-palooza, it can even be done with relatively little real risk. However, I think you're making a faulty assumption. I don't think IU just randomly decided to narrow the focus down to these 3. I think they did so with a high level of confidence, confidence that they would likely land most of their primary targets and that they could rectify any misses with transfers and de-commits. thebigweave 1 Quote
Popular Post Uspshoosier Posted October 19, 2023 Popular Post Posted October 19, 2023 18 minutes ago, HoosierFan1994 said: Because you can't spend all this time on 3 recruits and only get one. They chose not to prioritize Mustaf, Betsey, Swartz, and others because they narrowed it down to these 3. Also...I don't want this to be negative at all! I applaud what they are doing. But I think in this approach you need to get at least 2. We have one so far. In the old way of recruiting I would of agreed with you but with the portal and kids still to open up in the spring I think you will see staffs go big early and then know they have backup plans if things don’t work out early. This staff has shown they have no problem jumping into short recruitments. While not ideal if a staff doesn’t get their top targets early it’s no longer a death sentence to miss out on them in todays landscape in my opinion CSP, Henryville Hoosier, Muskie for three and 7 others 10 Quote
Popular Post BGVille Hoosierfan Posted October 19, 2023 Popular Post Posted October 19, 2023 Would be wise to go peep Adam Howard’s profile pic before it’s gone. Seems notable! ALASKA HOOSIER, thebigweave, 8bucks and 7 others 10 Quote
Chris007 Posted October 19, 2023 Posted October 19, 2023 25 minutes ago, HoosierFan1994 said: Because you can't spend all this time on 3 recruits and only get one. They chose not to prioritize Mustaf, Betsey, Swartz, and others because they narrowed it down to these 3. Also...I don't want this to be negative at all! I applaud what they are doing. But I think in this approach you need to get at least 2. We have one so far. I'm not sure I agree with that with Renau & Sparks coming back Queen would be a must-get. I think he would be great to have but I think we would still be OK. thebigweave, Demo, CSP and 1 other 4 Quote
Hornsby Posted October 19, 2023 Posted October 19, 2023 Because you can't spend all this time on 3 recruits and only get one. They chose not to prioritize Mustaf, Betsey, Swartz, and others because they narrowed it down to these 3. Also...I don't want this to be negative at all! I applaud what they are doing. But I think in this approach you need to get at least 2. We have one so far. Given this was supposed to a monster class I tend to agree only getting one recruit ths fall would be a buzzkill. Sure have the portal but with likely four spots to fill you need to cast a wider net. Sent from my SM-A146U using Tapatalk Quote
94Bulldog Posted October 19, 2023 Posted October 19, 2023 5 minutes ago, BGVille Hoosierfan said: Would be wise to go peep Adam Howard’s profile pic before it’s gone. Seems notable! Mr October!! Quote
dwtaylor1055 Posted October 19, 2023 Posted October 19, 2023 we get two of the three(Liam, boogie, queen) that we have been chasing I'd call it a win, only getting one would be a letdown imo. Getting all three is a grand slam. Transfer Portal nowadays eases the loss of missing recruits in the fall go iu bb 1 Quote
Chris007 Posted October 19, 2023 Posted October 19, 2023 4 minutes ago, Hornsby said: Given this was supposed to a monster class I tend to agree only getting one recruit ths fall would be a buzzkill. Sure have the portal but with likely four spots to fill you need to cast a wider net. Sent from my SM-A146U using Tapatalk Or we still one in the spring when Cal or another coach is fired thebigweave, lillurk, BGVille Hoosierfan and 2 others 5 Quote
Chris007 Posted October 19, 2023 Posted October 19, 2023 Rabby just said the final decision has been made, family is keeping it close to the vest. I think he's been leaning one way for a while but we'll see if I'm right in 25.5 hours. Henryville Hoosier, Hoosierfanyuh, hper50 and 4 others 6 1 Quote
Demo Posted October 19, 2023 Posted October 19, 2023 https://247sports.com/college/basketball/recruiting/Article/college-basketball-recruiting-previewing-composite-five-star-boogie-fland-and-his-decision-between-alabama-indiana-and-kentucky-218398634/ Bossi’s take. Nothing new. Posted for the sale of completeness. lillurk 1 Quote
Popular Post Brass Cannon Posted October 19, 2023 Popular Post Posted October 19, 2023 3 minutes ago, Chris007 said: Rabby just said the final decision has been made, family is keeping it close to the vest. I think he's been leaning one way for a while but we'll see if I'm right in 25.5 hours. Did he figure out by the fact the announcement vid was filmed on Monday. Quite the detective MikeRoberts, Tom White, lillurk and 6 others 1 1 7 Quote
Chris007 Posted October 19, 2023 Posted October 19, 2023 Just now, Brass Cannon said: Did he figure out by the fact the announcement vid was filmed on Monday. Quite the detective He disputes that it was. Or they filmed two lillurk 1 Quote
Chris007 Posted October 19, 2023 Posted October 19, 2023 2 minutes ago, Demo said: https://247sports.com/college/basketball/recruiting/Article/college-basketball-recruiting-previewing-composite-five-star-boogie-fland-and-his-decision-between-alabama-indiana-and-kentucky-218398634/ Bossi’s take. Nothing new. Posted for the sale of completeness. He does say he leans UK but wouldn't be surprised either way. Another one that won't go against UK. Remember Bossi is a KU grad J34 and lillurk 2 Quote
Popular Post Stuhoo Posted October 19, 2023 Popular Post Posted October 19, 2023 26 minutes ago, BGVille Hoosierfan said: Would be wise to go peep Adam Howard’s profile pic before it’s gone. Seems notable! IUsafety, Hollywood Mike Miranda, Artie86 and 8 others 11 Quote
Popular Post Uspshoosier Posted October 19, 2023 Popular Post Posted October 19, 2023 15 minutes ago, Chris007 said: Or we still one in the spring when Cal or another coach is fired Amazing how far recruiting has came under Woodson. He wanted a seat at the table with the big boys and while some said you had to work your way up to recruiting those type of players here he is this cycle winning a long recruitment battle against Self (who wanted Mcneely badly) and now IU is in the final 2 of a lead out of state guard that had no IU ties before they started recruiting him and is basically in a 50/50 toss up with Cal and Kentucky when Cal has basically told this kid he will be the lead guard next year. You now have IU fans saying it will be a disappointment if the staff only gets 1 or 3 top 20 kids. A disappointing class for some if they only bring in arguably the best shooter in the class. That’s a matter of opinion if that would be a disappointment or not. The days of missing out on Matt Cross are hopefully over. Lol. He still plays Umass thebigweave, moyemayhem, Hollywood Mike Miranda and 13 others 15 1 Quote
CSP Posted October 19, 2023 Posted October 19, 2023 24 minutes ago, Chris007 said: Or we still one in the spring when Cal or another coach is fired like a whiskey still? We going to become the Bondurants, like on Lawless? running Shine to all these suckas. ;) ALASKA HOOSIER, Chris007 and thebigweave 2 1 Quote
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