Mike Woodson to be next IUBB coach. Thad Matta to be associate AD

[Golfman25]

1 hour ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

Nope. I haven’t been happy with any coach selection so far.  
 

1-When Crean was hired, I wanted Few or Tony Bennett

2-Miller- wanted Donovan, Bennett, or a stealing of a successful power 5 coach. 
 

3. Woodson- Stevens, Scott Drew, Oats, or the stealing of a succesful power 5 coach.  
 

I realize I’ve had my hopes too high, but if reports of 7 mil a year are true we could have aimed so much higher.  
 

one big plus, is the older alumni/players feel warm and cuddly about this hire.  And maybe that’s the secret sauce.  Dakich has been saying it for years. We are about to find out. 

None of those guys where ever comming.  You need a guy like Woodson to bring IU back into prominance.  

[Golfman25]

1 hour ago, IUBBx5Banners said:

Most options you listed weren’t obtainable. It’s like me saying I wish we would’ve hired Coach Spo

1. Few hasn’t left the NW in his entire life. Maybe he would’ve come for bigger $ but he was a 1st round flameout at the time  (unfair rep obviously) and who knows if he wanted a rebuild. 
And Bennett wasn’t even at UVA when Crean was hired.

2. Donovan was never coming. Bennett maybe? If he knew how good his 17-18 team could be, no chance he comes. What P5 coach then?

3. We tried to get Stevens. By all accounts, Oats wasn’t an option. Agree with you on Drew. 

So maybe we could have gotten Drew with the big $$$ offer that we seemed finally ready to make this time. 

Drew is in the final 4.  He wasn't comming, no matter what.  

[ziggyiu]

8 minutes ago, Golfman25 said:

Drew is in the final 4.  He wasn't comming, no matter what.  

I'm not saying IU should or should not have taken him, but Scott Drew could win the championship this year and he still would have walked from Waco to take the job. He wanted this. 

[WayneFleekHoosier]

None of those guys where ever comming.  You need a guy like Woodson to bring IU back into prominance.  

You weekday drinking?

 

 

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[WayneFleekHoosier]

I end the evening on this. We all want to win and be relevant. All the fans and maybe even the administration too.

I hope Woodson knocks it the F out of the park........

Good guys can sometimes win. Go get em Woody!


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[323SGrant]

Agreed. Just look at last 2 national champs. Nova and UVA played 4 G/Fs, with the 2-4s being 6’5-6’9. Both had a smaller lead PG (Guy and Brunson) and both played a smallish big man (Spellman for Nova and a couple of 6’9 guys at UVA). 
Its a versatile approach that can really hum and be devastating if you can field a lengthy team with multiple creators. Also, I think it’s also easier to recruit into that type of system where you can target archetypes and mix and match strengths and weaknesses

My first choice was Stevens, with a healthy Matta as my number 2, but I’m not so sure he’s healthy. He did well at O$U. Since we couldn’t get either of them, I will support Woody and hope he does well.


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[Golfman25]

5 hours ago, ziggyiu said:

I'm not saying IU should or should not have taken him, but Scott Drew could win the championship this year and he still would have walked from Waco to take the job. He wanted this. 

I’ve seen no indication that that is true.  Has it ever happened before?  Would be pretty historic.  

[IUBBx5Banners]

9 minutes ago, Golfman25 said:

I’ve seen no indication that that is true.  Has it ever happened before?  Would be pretty historic.  

There were a lot of “rumblings” that Drew was interested in the job but Dolson did not contact him. He was initially seen as likely to have the most interest out of the Texas coaches (Drew, Beard)

Off top my head, I know Roy left Kansas after an L in the championship. Larry Brown jumped to NBA right after winning one..I want to say Pitino did the same but not certain. 

[Trish]

9 hours ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

I’m trying to get excited about all this and I can’t.

I mean, sure it’s a nice feel-good story, but to expect us to become elite based on this move is lunacy. We don’t have any recruiting pull based on this move. Better coaching? Seems so.

Indiana fans are so hopeful and desperate we’ll convince ourselves of anything.

I just can’t see this ending well in reality. However, I wholeheartedly wish Woodson well, sounds like a great guy.


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Fully agree with you Wayne. I think it's more fans talking themselves into this hire than being excited initially.

I hope it works out but I wouldn't put my money on it, he's against the odds.  

[Magnanimous]

1 hour ago, Golfman25 said:

I’ve seen no indication that that is true.  Has it ever happened before?  Would be pretty historic.  

Only example I can think of is Johnny Majors leaving Pitt for Tennessee after winning the college football championship in 1976. 

[Banksyrules]

Money talks. 

[Chris007]

3 minutes ago, Banksyrules said:

Money talks. 

Money was for one person and one person only. He was not let out of his contract. We did the next best thing to unite this fan base. Which has happened for the most part, except for a few people. 

[Papacap]

29 minutes ago, Trish said:

Fully agree with you Wayne. I think it's more fans talking themselves into this hire than being excited initially.

I hope it works out but I wouldn't put my money on it, he's against the odds.  

I agree people can convince themselves of things. Human nature. But isn’t that what the Chicken Littles are doing here? I’m not talking about people questioning things. I’m talking about people saying this is lunacy and can’t work.

For example, I have asked people who are dead set against this hire why they think Woodson won’t be able to recruit well other than he hasn’t been a college coach. Do they think he can’t recognize talent? That he can’t develop relationships with the players and parents? But I haven’t seen a good answer to those questions. It’s simply....kids don’t know who he is. As if kids today are too stupid to look up who he is. 

Yet people who are excited about this hire are the emotional ones trying to convince ourselves this will work.

I’m not saying this is guaranteed to work. Nothing is. And I’m not saying Woodson should have been peoples first choice. But the minority of IU fans who think this hire is terrible are being just as emotional about this as people like me who are really excited.

[Banksyrules]

15 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

Money was for one person and one person only. He was not let out of his contract. We did the next best thing to unite this fan base. Which has happened for the most part, except for a few people. 

I know I’m just talking in general. If we want someone typically they’ll come if the price is right. 

[FightFor6]

17 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

Money was for one person and one person only. He was not let out of his contract. We did the next best thing to unite this fan base. Which has happened for the most part, except for a few people. 

That sounds like a healthy work environment. Also, who signs that kind of contract?

[IUBBx5Banners]

6 minutes ago, Banksyrules said:

I know I’m just talking in general. If we want someone typically they’ll come if the price is right. 

Out of curiosity, who do you think we could have gotten with a $5M-$7M offer? 

[HoosierAloha]

Fully agree with you Wayne. I think it's more fans talking themselves into this hire than being excited initially.
I hope it works out but I wouldn't put my money on it, he's against the odds.  

It’s what fans do. Only a handful had Woody on their list but after taking the job this is the smartest and best thing that’s ever happened to the program. (Calm down, slight exaggeration) the proof is in the pudding. I hope Woody absolutely crushes it and the Big 1.0 is pudding down their legs after he has us rolling in a few years. However, it’s crazy some of the things said on here and other places. Anyway, it’s a message board and we’re supposed to let our craziness out while laughing at the outsiders (who’ve been right for 20+ years) for hating on our program!


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[Trish]

Interesting timeline for CMW the past few years. 

- He resigns from the Clippers in 2018, after being the lead assistant and being in charge of defense. 

- After resigning from the Clippers, he interviewed with the Suns to an assistant coach, he didn't get the job.

- CMW interviews for the head coaching position with the Lakers, he doesn't get it. (2019)

- He takes 2018-2020 off from coaching completely, besides the interviews I mention above.

- CMW interviews for the NYK head coach position in 2020, he doesn't get it. He instead takes a AC position with the Knicks.

 

Interesting journey. It appears he's been more of a defensive minded coach as an AC. I wonder if he brings in an offensive minded AC? Obviously college basketball is different than the pro's, I wonder what schemes he'll bring defensively. 

[Loaded Chicken Sandwich]

37 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

Money was for one person and one person only. He was not let out of his contract. We did the next best thing to unite this fan base. Which has happened for the most part, except for a few people. 

Well some people's are just loser faces. 

[Banksyrules]

15 minutes ago, IUBBx5Banners said:

Out of curiosity, who do you think we could have gotten with a $5M-$7M offer? 

I’m not going to get into the who at this phase. What’s done is done at this point. I just know that amount of money could have convinced many.  It convinced Roy. I know he loved UNC and all but that didn’t stop him from having a private bidding war with Kansas.