Candidate Thread: Brad Stevens (Boston Celtics)

[Bowhunter 2,693]

Maybe you already answered this but how did things go from you saying be ready for more denials to within minutes Brad denies interest and then it’s over. I know it cam from your source but that part confused me a bit.

I can’t wait for this answer


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[spe317 497]

If I had to guess...

The admin reached out about any possible interest. Interest was tentative. As things heated up and interest was further reciprocated, the BS camp said, in order for this to happen, we would need A, B, C, and D. Behind the scenes, the admin worked and got everything out together. The entire time, deniability was key and this the non answer the first time. When Indiana presented the requested A, B, C, and D to BS, he pontificated and decided nah. Whether that involved BS telling Ainge is unsure.

 

I would assume sources and boosters and the admin were of the understanding that providing a contract with A-D would lead to a yes, it actually only lead to serious consideration from BS.

The press conference after his decision was most likely a joint discussion with Ainge where BS tried to score some points with his base and close down the discussion. 
 

anyway that’s my guess. Ultimately a misunderstanding. We secured everything requested by the two parties but ultimately the NBA is too attractive to turn down. Also the owner is behind him. Ainge gets cut before he does unless all the players band together to call him an idiot which is unlikely. 

[Banksyrules 4,793]

25 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

When you’re one of the best in the world at your profession; you worry a lot less about petty grievances. If at some hypothetical date Brad gets fired by Boston and Cuban refuses to hire him because of a grudge, there are 28 other nba franchises. There certainly aren’t 28 coaches better than him in the NBA. 

We have zero information to suggest that Brad acted in bad faith. People believe he used us for a raise despite no raise being reported. Getting rejected sucks. It’s easier to make up reasons for getting rejected than it is to look in the mirror and admit that they just weren’t interested. But that’s exactly what happened here. Brad didn’t want to be the IU men’s basketball coach. Who cares. Someone out there will want the job. Someone out there is ready to give the job everything he has. Let’s go find that guy. 

Oh I’m all on board for moving on and I agree that Brad doesn’t care about these petty grievances. These Billionaires though think differently- I’m just trying to apply context to the world I live in.  Truth be told though I have no clue who I want now.

[IUwins0708 2,666]

4 minutes ago, spe317 said:

If I had to guess...

The admin reached out about any possible interest. Interest was tentative. As things heated up and interest was further reciprocated, the BS camp said, in order for this to happen, we would need A, B, C, and D. Behind the scenes, the admin worked and got everything out together. The entire time, deniability was key and this the non answer the first time. When Indiana presented the requested A, B, C, and D to BS, he pontificated and decided nah. Whether that involved BS telling Ainge is unsure.

 

I would assume sources and boosters and the admin were of the understanding that providing a contract with A-D would lead to a yes, it actually only lead to serious consideration from BS.

The press conference after his decision was most likely a joint discussion with Ainge where BS tried to score some points with his base and close down the discussion. 
 

anyway that’s my guess. Ultimately a misunderstanding. We secured everything requested by the two parties but ultimately the NBA is too attractive to turn down. Also the owner is behind him. Ainge gets cut before he does unless all the players band together to call him an idiot which is unlikely. 

You are spot on.  Is this you Brad? Why did you say no?

[IUwins0708 2,666]

33 minutes ago, SteelerHoosier said:

Not to poke or impose, but you gave a heads up for a heavy denial. Then that denial took place and your mood change. Was the nature of the denial just much different than you were told would happen? You don't have to answer. 

Yeah I was told to expect a heavy denial, but then got word that it was over.  This time meaning he was out.  It was/is still an odd time.  

[SteelerHoosier 2,586]

Just now, IUwins0708 said:

Yeah I was told to expect a heavy denial, but then got word that it was over.  This time meaning he was out.  It was/is still an odd time.  

So it's your understanding the ship has sailed for good? 

[Ryno6284 2,675]

1 minute ago, IUwins0708 said:

Yeah I was told to expect a heavy denial, but then got word that it was over.  This time meaning he was out.  It was/is still an odd time.  

I don't hate you! Glad to see you are still posting here!

[Hoosierfan1901 6,291]

I feel there might be a compromise? Just a feeling...

[ap2345 7,845]

4 minutes ago, IUwins0708 said:

You are spot on.  Is this you Brad? Why did you say no?

That makes sense. I’m just curious to see what’s next.

[Ryno6284 2,675]

1 minute ago, SteelerHoosier said:

So it's your understanding the ship has sailed for good? 

It sailed yesterday around 6 pm eastern! give or take.

[SteelerHoosier 2,586]

Just now, Hooserfan1901 said:

I feel there might be a compromise? Just a feeling...

Why does this feeling exist? 

[SteelerHoosier 2,586]

1 minute ago, Ryno6284 said:

It sailed yesterday around 6 pm eastern! give or take.

I'm under that impression. Just didn't know if IU was going to try one last push to sweeten the pot

[AZ Hoosier 7,158]

1 minute ago, SteelerHoosier said:

Why does this feeling exist? 

because it feels so good when it stops.

[spe317 497]

I guess in theory if the Celtics tank the rest of the year and the stars demand trades and IU STILL doesn’t have a coach...but who knows what will happen. 

[Hoosierfan1901 6,291]

2 minutes ago, SteelerHoosier said:

Why does this feeling exist? 

Who knows....

[cthomas 6,435]

I'm not going to disparage Coach Stevens in any way. I would have gladly taken a chance on him at IU. But, like he said, he's 44 and not a kid anymore. And the championships that everyone thought he would deliver haven't materialised. At some point you are no longer the 'golden boy'. The Celtics fans seem to be approaching that point now. Like I said I would have loved him at IU. It was worth a shot. Didn't happen. He's not the only guy who could restore IU basketball. Personally, I wouldn't want to take a job with the pressure of being the savior of a historic program. Others may differ. Just not worth it to me. There are lots of coaches who can do the job. We just need to hire one and enjoy the ride.

[Ryno6284 2,675]

1 minute ago, SteelerHoosier said:

I'm under that impression. Just didn't know if IU was going to try one last push to sweeten the pot

I'm guessing they are scrambling to figure out plan B.  Which sucks, if they thought BS was a done deal!  The best leaders can adjust on the fly and make the best out of every situation, no matter how bad!

[Ryno6284 2,675]

1 minute ago, cthomas said:

I'm not going to disparage Coach Stevens in any way. I would have gladly taken a chance on him at IU. But, like he said, he's 44 and not a kid anymore. And the championships that everyone thought he would deliver haven't materialised. At some point you are no longer the 'golden boy'. The Celtics fans seem to be approaching that point now. Like I said I would have loved him at IU. It was worth a shot. Didn't happen. He's not the only guy who could restore IU basketball. Personally, I wouldn't want to take a job with the pressure of being the savior of a historic program. Others may differ. Just not worth it to me. There are lots of coaches who can do the job. We just need to hire one and enjoy the ride.

Sorry, I thought this was funny, since he is at Boston.

[AZ Hoosier 7,158]

Just now, cthomas said:

I'm not going to disparage Coach Stevens in any way. I would have gladly taken a chance on him at IU. But, like he said, he's 44 and not a kid anymore. And the championships that everyone thought he would deliver haven't materialised. At some point you are no longer the 'golden boy'. The Celtics fans seem to be approaching that point now. Like I said I would have loved him at IU. It was worth a shot. Didn't happen. He's not the only guy who could restore IU basketball. Personally, I wouldn't want to take a job with the pressure of being the savior of a historic program. Others may differ. Just not worth it to me. There are lots of coaches who can do the job. We just need to hire one and enjoy the ride.

Whomever Dolson hires will feel the pressure... but BS was going to be under the gun from the beginning... how many posts refer to him as the savior of IUMBB? 

Any rebuild will not happen overnight... but hopefully we will see steady progress in the right direction... we will rise again.

[SteelerHoosier 2,586]

3 minutes ago, Hooserfan1901 said:

Who knows....

Please stop doing this "........". It makes it seem like you're being cryptic homie. Like ya know something haha