General Coach Candidate News

[tyappleg]

1 hour ago, Chris007 said:

Don’t be surprised when IU has black uniforms with the red script later tonight.

About ******* time.  Only took them 60+ years to figure out how good a Script logo looks on basketball jersey. 

[HoosierPapi4]

The one that got away 

[AZ Hoosier]

1 hour ago, Chris007 said:

Don’t be surprised when IU has black uniforms with the red script later tonight.

[BlueDevil]

3 minutes ago, AZ Hoosier said:

these are kind of sick

[MemphisHoosier]

1 hour ago, coonhounds said:

Is it a sign for stevens?

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Yes.

[OKHOOSIER]

4 minutes ago, AZ Hoosier said:

Okay, now that’s how you third jersey. Those are nice. Also s/o Chris for spoiling this at like noon today lol

[JustWinBaby]

4 hours ago, theriverpilot said:

Maybe I’m delusional but barely making the tournament should be a negative at a school like IU. Like you said, Woodson will probably fumble his way into the tournament this year. Three seasons ago was a play in game and a throttling by St Mary’s. Then another berth and smacked around by Miami.  Several tournament berths but unimpressive showings.

I would hope the next coach with IU’s NIL consistently has IU AT LEAST as a 5 or 6 seed in the tournament every year, which would also translate to being in the top 25 yearly and in play for B1G championships. 

Those should be the expectations, but like I said, I’m probably delusional.

 

Since the tourney was expanded to 64 teams in 1985 there have been 39 national champions. 35 of them have been a 3-seed or higher. 25 have been a 1 seed.

Barely backing into the tournament is not a recipe for success. Indiana's highest seed in the tournament under Woodson was 4 in 2023, and they got ran off the floor by 5-seed Miami (who would go on to the Final Four, to be fair).

Under Crean, Indiana was a 4-seed in 2012, 1-seed in 2013, 10-seed in 2015, and a 5-seed in 2016.

Under Sampson IU went to the tourney both years, as a 7-seed in 2007 and an 8-seed in 2008.

Under Mike Davis, IU was a 4-seed in 2001, 5-seed in 2002, 7-seed in 2003, and a 6-seed in 2006

Under Knight, from 1994-2000 Indiana made the tournament every year but was not seeded higher than 6 at any point.

Aside from 2013, Indiana has not been a 1-seed (or higher than a 3-seed) since 1993.

Statistically Indiana has not put themselves in a position to even remotely compete for a national title more than once in the last 32 years.

Let's compare to a similar program in terms of historical success, fan support, finances, etc. -- Kansas

Under Bill Self, Kansas has not missed a single NCAA tournament. They've been a 1-seed ten times, a 2-seed three times, a 3-seed three times, and a 4-seed four times. They've won two national championships, both as a 1-seed.

This demonstrates two things, 1) how difficult it is to win the tournament even as a high seed, and 2) that winning a national championship requires a degree of consistent success over many years.

There is no excuse given the similarities between Kansas and Indiana that we cannot achieve similar success. I do not expect our next coach to emulate the statistics of Bill Self -- that would be insane. But I do expect that we can start achieving SOME degree of consistent success so that we can be in a position to be competitive in the tournament. There is no excuse with our resources for Indiana to be struggling to make the tournament, and getting consistently outclassed when they do.

[Pagoda]

8 minutes ago, BlueDevil said:

these are kind of sick

I like it.

Different designs are cool as long at is includes something unique to IU.  The Fear of God jerseys had nothing related to us — bad.  This has the script Indiana — good!

[BA47591]

5 minutes ago, OKHOOSIER said:

Okay, now that’s how you third jersey. Those are nice. Also s/o Chris for spoiling this at like noon today lol

Those are sweet. I'd even entertain the idea of black and white candy stripes and a black jacket for warm-ups. 

[Magisterium]

2 hours ago, Pagoda said:

Their athletic dept has financial issues (including NIL) and word is Tommy may not get along great with their AD.  That’s why I mention him as a possibility, though how much of a possibility I don’t know.

I would be excited if we got him.  Good metrics and he can handle this job.

Maybe if IU offered the “ basketball GM” spot to Lloyd’s Director of Player Relations at Arizona that might help persuade Lloyd to come. Jason Gardner, familiar name to a lot of people.

[rcbowla]

44 minutes ago, Juwan Moye said:

How silly is it that “white after Labor Day” is still a thing in 2025?

I've never even understood it. Also never looked into it. Wouldn't every day after Labor Day and until the next Labor Day be "after Labor Day"?

[HoosierPapi4]

[Papacap]

Just now, HoosierPapi4 said:

Advance scouting for when he’s on Steven’s staff.

[rcbowla]

Just now, HoosierPapi4 said:

That doesn't look like him to me. We sure? Lol

[hoosierbannerd]

7 minutes ago, BA47591 said:

Those are sweet. I'd even entertain the idea of black and white candy stripes and a black jacket for warm-ups. 

That's what the originals looked like..you know, before color.. right Old Fart?

[HinnyHoosier]

39 minutes ago, tyappleg said:

About ******* time.  Only took them 60+ years to figure out how good a Script logo looks on basketball jersey. 

I have been pining for this the last 15 years.

[BA47591]

45 minutes ago, Pagoda said:

Pitino would have been a great hire in 2001.  Shame that search committee didn’t interview anyone…

He would have won a lot if he got the job back then, maybe a title, though we probably would have had navigate some sort of off court incident when he was here lol.  Overall he likely would have been a big net positive.  Just another what-if in IUBB lore.

Standard contract is 6 years. What coach do you think would have the best chance of winning multiple conference championships and a natty over the next 6 years? At Indiana. We've had 4 or 5 interesting teams the last 30 years. I'd take Pitino in a heartbreak.  Our next hire might be sooner than if we somehow catch lightening in a bottle this time, but we would make that hire from position excellence again vs chaos. He did look like Mr. Rourke from fantasy Island today though. 

[OKHOOSIER]

9 minutes ago, HoosierPapi4 said:

That person looks about 12 inches too short to be Zeller lol

[Skrappy]

2 hours ago, Juwan Moye said:

Goodman: IU schedules press conference for 3pm tomorrow 

basement cleaned for IU friend couple coming over- check

Food ready- check

5:20, first beer poured, Bama v Vols on TV, I may as well catch up on msg boards before company…

Got Me! 

[theriverpilot]

22 minutes ago, JustWinBaby said:

Since the tourney was expanded to 64 teams in 1985 there have been 39 national champions. 35 of them have been a 3-seed or higher. 25 have been a 1 seed.

Barely backing into the tournament is not a recipe for success. Indiana's highest seed in the tournament under Woodson was 4 in 2023, and they got ran off the floor by 5-seed Miami (who would go on to the Final Four, to be fair).

Under Crean, Indiana was a 4-seed in 2012, 1-seed in 2013, 10-seed in 2015, and a 5-seed in 2016.

Under Sampson IU went to the tourney both years, as a 7-seed in 2007 and an 8-seed in 2008.

Under Mike Davis, IU was a 4-seed in 2001, 5-seed in 2002, 7-seed in 2003, and a 6-seed in 2006

Under Knight, from 1994-2000 Indiana made the tournament every year but was not seeded higher than 6 at any point.

Aside from 2013, Indiana has not been a 1-seed (or higher than a 3-seed) since 1993.

Statistically Indiana has not put themselves in a position to even remotely compete for a national title more than once in the last 32 years.

Let's compare to a similar program in terms of historical success, fan support, finances, etc. -- Kansas

Under Bill Self, Kansas has not missed a single NCAA tournament. They've been a 1-seed ten times, a 2-seed three times, a 3-seed three times, and a 4-seed four times. They've won two national championships, both as a 1-seed.

This demonstrates two things, 1) how difficult it is to win the tournament even as a high seed, and 2) that winning a national championship requires a degree of consistent success over many years.

There is no excuse given the similarities between Kansas and Indiana that we cannot achieve similar success. I do not expect our next coach to emulate the statistics of Bill Self -- that would be insane. But I do expect that we can start achieving SOME degree of consistent success so that we can be in a position to be competitive in the tournament. There is no excuse with our resources for Indiana to be struggling to make the tournament, and getting consistently outclassed when they do.

Appreciate you putting these stats together to help support this!