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1 hour ago, SamIam said:

Well, its clear that Bilas likes pace, all 3 of those teams are top 35 in the country in tempo. I'm not convinced that is what wins comes tournament time, but Bilas has always been a proponent of turning CBB into the NBA so I'm not surprised. 

Bilas was a huge Tom Crean fan, too. 
 

He always confused me because he was pretty smart on some things and down right nutty on some others. 
 

 

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6 hours ago, Free Jurkin! said:


On Pardon My Take, Bilas listed Schertz first when they asked him about coaches who are doing the best job right now and changing the game schematically. He listed Schertz, Oats, and Tommy Lloyd


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Changing the game schematically does not necessarily mean ready to run a prominent P5 program. So yes, Schertz can accurately be dubbed an innovator and still not be a viable option for IU.

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18 hours ago, Free Jurkin! said:


On Pardon My Take, Bilas listed Schertz first when they asked him about coaches who are doing the best job right now and changing the game schematically. He listed Schertz, Oats, and Tommy Lloyd


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Lloyd always makes me laugh. Can you imagine the reaction around these parts in ‘21 if Dolson had rolled out a 43 yo career Assistant from the WCC whose primary schtick was International talent acquisition? 

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16 minutes ago, iubhounds2 said:

I remember the reaction of the ISU fans when Schertz was hired. They wanted a bigger name and a coach with D1 experience. They were not happy campers with that hire. Who knows what he could do at IU. Not all successful coaches are made for big time schools in a tiny fish bowl. 

Like with just about any hire, there were a lot of different opinions among the fanbase. I know plenty of ISU fans that were fired up to try something new with an elite D2 coach, me among them. Really the only people I knew that were upset about the hire were Lansing fans that didn't think he deserved to get canned.

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1 hour ago, iubhounds2 said:

I remember the reaction of the ISU fans when Schertz was hired. They wanted a bigger name and a coach with D1 experience. They were not happy campers with that hire. Who knows what he could do at IU. Not all successful coaches are made for big time schools in a tiny fish bowl. 

Maybe, partially true.  (many people liked Greg Lansing/nice guy).  However, there were many people on board with Josh Shertz hire.  And of course you had naysayers….. think most were interested, curious, and hopeful….especially those who followed the program which was lacking….(kind of comparable to IU Ladies basketball program a decade ago 10 years ago).

At any rate given the state of Indiana State basketball at the time and looking at Josh Shertz credentials 3 or 4 years ago….(before current ISU success) that was an excellent hire for Indiana State. ( maybe, with a little risk but at that point in time ISU didn’t have much to lose and a lot to gain which currently they have gained a bunch…community, campus, and the program itself beyond wins and losses.

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2 hours ago, Demo said:

Lloyd always makes me laugh. Can you imagine the reaction around these parts in ‘21 if Dolson had rolled out a 43 yo career Assistant from the WCC whose primary schtick was International talent acquisition? 

I perused back through some of the Woody thread from when he was hired. I can’t imagine Lloyd being much worse than that. I think most people, myself included, found more optimism as time went on because we’re fans at heart. But there wasn’t much enthusiasm for the hire as announced .  
 

A hire like Lloyd used to be more common. Now it seems guys would rather have their own programs at lower levels and work their way up. But guys like Izzo, Crean, and Williams were all hires at basketball schools straight from being a top assistant.  My guess is it’s harder to get influential alumni and BoT members on board with such a hire than the actual fans. 

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I’d love to see what a real, tough nosed, attention to detail coach would get out of this talent and this roster.

But Carlyle stinks, Rice Is the most overrated Hoosier I can remember, and Goode just wants to play Goode basketball but he’s stunk to high heaven too. No lack of effort, I guess. Anyway talent is being misused. Ballo, Rice, Carlyle, Goode all look worse


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33 minutes ago, BA47591 said:

We have the best compilation of 8 players in the country if properly implemented. Jmo

Bartorvok has us 17-12. 

This is it for Woody. 

If we go 17-12 he shouldn’t even be allowed to see the end of the season. That would be an absolute dumpster fire - we have to have one of the top 5 highest paid rosters in all of college basketball

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44 minutes ago, BA47591 said:

We have the best compilation of 8 players in the country if properly implemented. Jmo

Bartorvok has us 17-12. 

This is it for Woody. 

Bad news, that only counts known opponents. It probably didn't count Gonzaga, whoever we play tomorrow and a BTT drubbing (s**t, we have to make top 15 to do that now)

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10 hours ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

I’d love to see what a real, tough nosed, attention to detail coach would get out of this talent and this roster.

But Carlyle stinks, Rice Is the most overrated Hoosier I can remember, and Goode just wants to play Goode basketball but he’s stunk to high heaven too. No lack of effort, I guess. Anyway talent is being misused. Ballo, Rice, Carlyle, Goode all look worse


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Imagine what Painter could do with this roster. And then imagine what Woodson would do with Purdue's roster. 

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My list
T.J. - wife played at Iowa State but does he believe he can win championships there in the NIL world?

Oats - probably a long shot but one to take. 

Hopefully there are more. If Pitino could give us 7 years I would take him but at 72 that is not likely 

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Just imagine how horrible Crean's first team if they had Woodson as coach. Winless would be possible.
Yes! He wouldn't have a clue what to do with thar crew! He hasn't one with our guys now!

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