General Coach Candidate News

[Stuhoo 88,170]

2 hours ago, Uspshoosier said:

The next head coach is probably going to have Midwest ties.  Usually when a program hires a coach they have ties to that region.   Someone like McCasland with Midwest ties and from Texas is most likely to stay in Texas.   A lot of good coaches out there with Midwest ties so IU should be able to get a good candidate.  IU plays in the B1G which is a cash cow so maybe you can get a coach that doesn’t have those ties however i don’t see it 

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There are a couple of strong candidates in the SEC. 

We definitely need a face of the program with a strong staff. We've made all of the mistakes you can make: hiring interim (Davis). Then the President made the hire (Sampson). Then there was Coach Crean. Then the hot young name. Now we have our NBA alum that was picked by the BOT. 

I think I trust Dolson on this one. Bynington is interesting. I'm a Beard guy myself. I think we've established our financial resources and are ahead of the curve as revenue sharing sets to come on line. IU is a heavy load for someone to take on and we'll probably pay handsomely for the guy we get. I would rule out Bruce Pearl because of that. He loses the majority of his roster after thus season. 

[tkbbn 534]

How about Bennett? I heard he doesn't like the transfer portal but he didn't have the money at Virginia that he would have here? Not advocating for him at all just haven't seen his name brought up lately. 

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1 minute ago, tkbbn said:

How about Bennett? I heard he doesn't like the transfer portal but he didn't have the money at Virginia that he would have here? Not advocating for him at all just haven't seen his name brought up lately. 

Didn't he announce his retirement? 

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3 minutes ago, tkbbn said:

How about Bennett? I heard he doesn't like the transfer portal but he didn't have the money at Virginia that he would have here? Not advocating for him at all just haven't seen his name brought up lately. 

Nah, he's not equipped for the stress of all the new age stuff.  He will likely stay away from the game.

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He did retire and at a strange time if I remember correctly. I would think with him having a GM type person to handle the new age stuff and the resources he would have at some universities that he possibly would come back somewhere. 

[Alford Bailey 13,189]

May got smoked in his first trip to Mackey

[AH1971 2,811]

If we're talking about realistic candidates, Bryce Drew absolutely deserves a look. I know people will point to his 0-18 record in the SEC that got him fired, but that Vanderbilt team was delivered a death blow when Darius Garland got hurt early in the year and was announced he wasn't going to return. Drew recruited well at Vanderbilt pre-NIL (Darius Garland, Aaron Nesmith, Saben Lee have all played in the NBA) and has done well building up his teams at GCU through the portal. His GCU teams play fast and heavily emphasize guard play. Only downside hiring Drew is that he coaches an extremely senior-laden team so would not be able to bring over a full roster of players.

[str8baller 7,242]

2 hours ago, Uspshoosier said:

The next head coach is probably going to have Midwest ties.  Usually when a program hires a coach they have ties to that region.   Someone like McCasland with Midwest ties and from Texas is most likely to stay in Texas.   A lot of good coaches out there with Midwest ties so IU should be able to get a good candidate.  IU plays in the B1G which is a cash cow so maybe you can get a coach that doesn’t have those ties however i don’t see it 

Greg Tongel step on down! 
 

Fwiw, I guess his kids and his staffs kids all play together in middle school at a smaller school. One HS assistant told me it’s the best 8th grader team he’s ever seen. So maybe we can get a leg up on 2029 recruiting too!

[Uspshoosier 53,451]

39 minutes ago, tkbbn said:

He did retire and at a strange time if I remember correctly. I would think with him having a GM type person to handle the new age stuff and the resources he would have at some universities that he possibly would come back somewhere. 

Probably not the university that fired his sister 

[str8baller 7,242]

47 minutes ago, tkbbn said:

How about Bennett? I heard he doesn't like the transfer portal but he didn't have the money at Virginia that he would have here? Not advocating for him at all just haven't seen his name brought up lately. 

I like Bennett a lot. I think his run in the ACC is a tad underrated. But honestly if we’re going the route of throwing a truckload of money at guys who retired early, I think you throw the Brad Stevens offer Jay Wright. Make him turn down $10mil/season. He’s 63 but if he coached for 7 more years it’s probably the best chance IU will conceivably have at a title in that timespan. 
 

And I’ve honestly never been a big fan of Billy Donovan but the timing could be right there for someone as he’s having another stinker of a season in Chicago. 

[go iu bb 8,921]

Bump. Maybe a better place to debate Will Wade?

[go iu bb 8,921]

11 minutes ago, AH1971 said:

We’ve never given a coach the chance to build, fail, learn, and then grow. We mock Purdue for many things, but look at Matt Painter.

He struggled his first couple seasons, put together 3 very solid seasons, then went through a 4 year stretch with no tournament wins and a dead last place finish in the B10 to building one of the most consistent programs in the country. But we have no interest in doing that.

7 minutes ago, AH1971 said:

Crean’s first 8-9 years very similar to Painter’s first 8-9 years. And Painter didn’t inherent a complete rebuild. Not talking out of my @$$ at all.

Constantly shifting the goal posts as usual. You said "never" then when I gave you an example you shift. Typical. The fact that Crean was given as long as he was shows your first statement above is false.

I would say that Painter has been way more consistent than Crean ever was or had shown he could be.

The reason for that is he had a lot of turnover in his program (remember the term "Creaning"?), had some discipline problems, and had alienated a lot of the area's HS and AAU coaches. Part of the reason the AD created the student athlete Bill of Rights was because of Crean and the stuff he did.

Painter just had 1 bad patch where he tried to recruit players that didn't fit his system. Relative to Crean, few discipline problems. Painter also hasn't pissed off a ton of HS and AAU coaches with his treatment of their players. This while being more consistent both within the B1G as well as getting to and advancing in the NCAAT than Crean. That 4 year stretch you mention, he still finished 3rd in the B1G in the 2 years he made the tournament.

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5 minutes ago, go iu bb said:

Constantly shifting the goal posts as usual. You said "never" then when I gave you an example you shift. Typical. The fact that Crean was given as long as he was shows your first statement above is false.

I would say that Painter has been way more consistent than Crean ever was or had shown he could be.

The reason for that is he had a lot of turnover in his program (remember the term "Creaning"?), had some discipline problems, and had alienated a lot of the area's HS and AAU coaches. Part of the reason the AD created the student athlete Bill of Rights was because of Crean and the stuff he did.

Painter just had 1 bad patch where he tried to recruit players that didn't fit his system. Relative to Crean, few discipline problems. Painter also hasn't pissed off a ton of HS and AAU coaches with his treatment of their players. This while being more consistent both within the B1G as well as getting to and advancing in the NCAAT than Crean. That 4 year stretch you mention, he still finished 3rd in the B1G in the 2 years he made the tournament.

Crean’s tenure had two parts.

Part 1: years 1-3 Complete and total rebuild while dream boy Stevens was winning up the road 

Part 2: years 4-9 two B10 titles, three S16’s, two missed tourney’s (one after best player got hurt middle of the year sitting at 13-6)

He was never forgiven for losing to Syracuse.

[WayneFleekHoosier 50,841]

That’s not completely fair.

1-3 very patient rebuild the likes Indiana basketball has never seen.

4-5. A wonderful payoff. Great seasons.

6- missed tournament. Almost .500 record.

7-a meh season just barely making the tournament.

8-a very nice season.

9-another missed tournament. Cupboard was bare. Things were beginning to fall apart. The Wade shine. The Oladipo/Zeller shine we’re wearing off. It was time.

Had he himself bounced back and put results on the board the Syracuse game is forgotten. But he meddled a bunch and lost steam.

In retrospect he was better than Archie but still time to move on. The Georgia tenure confirms exactly that.

Don’t spin.


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2 hours ago, go iu bb said:

Bump. Maybe a better place to debate Will Wade?

If I never see the name Will Wade again it will be too soon

[AH1971 2,811]

52 minutes ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

That’s not completely fair.

1-3 very patient rebuild the likes Indiana basketball has never seen.

4-5. A wonderful payoff. Great seasons.

6- missed tournament. Almost .500 record.

7-a meh season just barely making the tournament.

8-a very nice season.

9-another missed tournament. Cupboard was bare. Things were beginning to fall apart. The Wade shine. The Oladipo/Zeller shine we’re wearing off. It was time.

Had he himself bounced back and put results on the board the Syracuse game is forgotten. But he meddled a bunch and lost steam.

In retrospect he was better than Archie but still time to move on. The Georgia tenure confirms exactly that.

Don’t spin.


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What he did at Georgia is irrelevant. Look what Les Miles did at Kanas after he left LSU. 

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What he did at Georgia is irrelevant. Look what Les Miles did at Kanas after he left LSU. 

Lmao. Ok.


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17 minutes ago, AH1971 said:

What he did at Georgia is irrelevant. Look what Les Miles did at Kanas after he left LSU. 

Only irrelevant because it doesn’t fit your agenda.

Look at what Self did at Kansas after leaving Illinois. Roy after leaving Kansas for UNC. I can cherry pick examples as well as you can 

[HoosierHoopster 8,038]

So who do people think are currently actually in play behind the scenes. I’d bet it’s no one mentioned so far.