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Just now, Chris007 said:

Appreciate you. 

You saw the IUFB post I’m guessing?

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2 minutes ago, DSUMMITT said:

Like many of you - I've been around for every coaching change after RMK (and sadly refreshed boards since then - first time was IIBF and Indy Star boards mostly) but this one feels real important. Like generational anchor important.

Us RMK fans are getting long in the tooth - less and less fans remember even that 1991 team. We haven't had a coach since that's created a legacy. Crean a bit, I guess, but it was still too up and down and he needed a deeper run then sweet 16 to insure that imho. But the point being is - this feels like our time to make or break this brand to a certain degree. Very dramatic I know.

I'm sure I felt this way the last 3 hires - but this time just seems heavier - do you all feel that way? I guess in the NIL age you don't have to wait 3 or 4 years to evaluate so you can 'fail fast' but can we afford to do that again? SD has got to be feeling this. 

 

 

Great post. I was in college when the Kelvin debacle cratered the team. Many of us have basically mostly only known IU as a mediocre program. But we still believe in what it can and should be. It’s hard to imagine that lasts many more classes of students if this continues. Kids matriculating today haven’t had many reasons to cheer for IU basketball as kids. 

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2 minutes ago, RoadToZion said:

Ya that’s why I posted.

so are you gonna drop a nugget or is this only cryptic stuff :)

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2 minutes ago, IUguy77 said:

You saw the IUFB post I’m guessing?

Can we get some context?

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10 minutes ago, MrBBall said:

Sounds like he left the team for a few days. 

Well it was "all star break."  Probably went to the beach or Vegas for a few days.  :)  

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3 minutes ago, IUguy77 said:

You saw the IUFB post I’m guessing?

 

Just now, JimmerNoe said:

Can we get some context?

Yeah I don’t follow this one

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1 minute ago, Golfman25 said:

Well it was "all star break."  Probably went to the beach or Vegas for a few days.  :)  

Vegas, aka bar side at Upstairs Pub. 

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2 minutes ago, IUguy77 said:

You saw the IUFB post I’m guessing?

And some messages I have gotten. It's Feb. 20. No one knows what is going on. The one thing I love this time is we have good backup options. We have a long way to go and it's going to be a roller coaster, that is for sure

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21 minutes ago, Pagoda said:

Yea, NIL ended up being pay for play and also the worst possible way to roll out pay for play for the reasons you stated.  It’s terrible.

I had not heard of the rev share being equal among players on a team.  For example, I assume Fernando Mendoza is getting more football rev share than our 4th running back.  The player deals I see don’t appear to be equal.  I am not arguing, just discussing and trying to understand this new aspect of player comp.

I assume our new coach will come in and be mortified at the size of the NIL deals vs player production on our team.  I would guess they will want to redo it all and probably flip almost the whole team like UK or UL last year.  It’s going to be A LOT of work to clean up Woody’s disaster of a program.

Yeah, I can't say 100% that the revenue sharing will be equal among all players on a team, but I do remember reading that somewhere... I could be wrong - it wouldn't be the first time. /s

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3 minutes ago, OKHOOSIER said:

Great post. I was in college when the Kelvin debacle cratered the team. Many of us have basically mostly only known IU as a mediocre program. But we still believe in what it can and should be. It’s hard to imagine that lasts many more classes of students if this continues. Kids matriculating today haven’t had many reasons to cheer for IU basketball as kids. 

Agreed - there's no longer siting in front of a grainy TV watching channel 4 with the family (though the archaic interface of Peacock does feel similar - really in this day and age I can't rewind? Seriously. Sorry I digress). But I remember scrounging/begging/borrowing for tickets while in school - my son? He's definitely meh about it (sophomore at IU). 

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16 minutes ago, DSUMMITT said:

Like many of you - I've been around for every coaching change after RMK (and sadly refreshed boards since then - first time was IIBF and Indy Star boards mostly) but this one feels real important. Like generational anchor important.

Us RMK fans are getting long in the tooth - less and less fans remember even that 1991 team. We haven't had a coach since that's created a legacy. Crean a bit, I guess, but it was still too up and down and he needed a deeper run then sweet 16 to insure that imho. But the point being is - this feels like our time to make or break this brand to a certain degree. Very dramatic I know.

I'm sure I felt this way the last 3 hires - but this time just seems heavier - do you all feel that way? I guess in the NIL age you don't have to wait 3 or 4 years to evaluate so you can 'fail fast' but can we afford to do that again? SD has got to be feeling this. 

 

 

It’s getting to be a long time since we were serious contenders — it’s really only been one time in the last 20 years, with most seasons being completely uncompetitive.  I mean we have not been close to a good program for decades, often due to negligence, which makes it even more frustrating.  All these bad years slowly chip away at interest in the team.  If it doesn’t happen now with our top-5 NIL… will it ever happen?

And football is now an alternative.  Future years probably won’t be as special as last season, but we now have a seriously competent and competitive program that is 1,000x more fun to follow than our brutal bball program.  Scott has a shot to get bball back on track, but if he doesn’t, I think football also takes away interest from bball and bball may not recover.

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What Dusty May has done at FAU and now Michigan is more impressive than what Stevens did at Butler. 

Don't get me wrong, I'll be ecstatic if we end up with Brad. My voice will become hoarse from all the enthusiastic yelling I'll do.

It's just that Dusty took a total nothing FAU program, and used what resources he had to build a team that made the Final Four and another NCAAT appearance.

FAU had nothing. No fan support. High school sized gym. No history. No tradition of winning. 

Butler had always been a solid program long before Stevens got there. 

The year before Stevens got to Butler, they went to the Sweet 16. 

In the prior 11 seasons before Stevens, Butler made the NCAAT 6 times, including 2 Sweet 16 appearances. 

Now compare that to what Dusty had to work with. In the prior 10 seasons before he arrived, the only postseason FAU had was an NIT berth in 2010-2011. 

FAU averaged 11.5 wins per season.

Then under Dusty they average 21 wins per season. 

And oh by the way, he's taken over an 8-win UM team and now has them on track to win the B1G.

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19 minutes ago, go iu bb said:

Have you seen that everyone within the same sport will get the same amount? Either from the NCAA/courts or IU? Everything else you said lines up with what I have seen and as I understand it but I don't recall seeing that it would be divided evenly by the team. 

That would certainly be the most equitable way of dividing the money but I'm not sure that's how it's going to be. I thought it was going to be similar to the way coach controlled NIL is right now - they get a bucket to divide as they see fit. In a way, this makes as much sense as distributing it equally. The starting QB will have a much larger impact than the DB who is 10th on the depth chart and hasn't played a single snap.

The elimination of walk-ons is part of the way to more fairly compensate the players low on the depth charts, I'm not sure they'll all get the same amount of rev share.

Of course, it could be there and I just missed it. 

I do remember reading that somewhere, and it was a source that I thought was credible, but at this point, I don't remember where it was... it could be incorrect info, and if so, I apologize.

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7 minutes ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

Here’s a thought. 
 

I think it’s Dusty May.  To me it makes the most sense. However Michigan being THIS successful plays with the timing and emotions of this.  
 

I don’t necessarily want it but Tony Bennett would fit the timeline and description of what Dolson wants.  He’s available to talk and plan now.  I don’t think Tony Bennett gets enough consideration as an option.   
 

I think NIL was his biggest issue and Indiana would help immensely with that. 
 

Im not saying I want him or his style but I could see it as a VERY reasonable option for Dolson.  

Tony Bennett was in Bloomington for a donor event a couple weeks ago.  

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https://www.thedailyhoosier.com/is-everything-finally-in-place-for-iu-basketball-to-hire-an-elite-coach/
 

Haven’t read it yet, but I’ve always liked Schumann so I assume it’s worth a read.

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1 minute ago, IUGRAD06 said:

Tony Bennett was in Bloomington for a donor event a couple weeks ago.  

did he do a duet with Lady Gaga?...

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Bennett with UVA NIL money: this is ruining the game

 Bennett with IU NIL money: let’s roll. 

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1 minute ago, Demo said:

https://www.thedailyhoosier.com/is-everything-finally-in-place-for-iu-basketball-to-hire-an-elite-coach/
 

Haven’t read it yet, but I’ve always liked Schumann so I assume it’s worth a read.

Nothing new.  70% of the article is rehashing past hiring disasters.

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2 minutes ago, AZ Hoosier said:

I do remember reading that somewhere, and it was a source that I thought was credible, but at this point, I don't remember where it was... it could be incorrect info, and if so, I apologize.

Nothing to apologize for. You may very well be correct, I just haven't seen the same thing. I'm not sure that I've seen anywhere how it is to be divided amongst a team. It might just be an assumption that on my part that it wouldn't have to be divided equally.

I guess we'll find out before too long. I wonder if these will be open for public record requests since they're contracts signed with the schools.