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4 hours ago, Motley's said:

 

Hearing more names like this. Before it gets to unproven names like McCollum or McMillan, there’s a faction that sees a move to a Groce or Alford. 

John Groce, Akron Zips

John Groce has turned the Akron Zips into a powerhouse in the Mid-American Conference. The Zips have won two of the last three MAC tournaments and have gone 157-86 under Groce. Prior to coaching at Akron, he spent five years in the Big Ten with Illinois, where he went 95-75 and reached the NCAA Tournament once. He also won two MAC tournament titles as head coach of the Ohio Bobcats from 2008 to 2012. His tenure with the Bobcats was highlighted by a trip to the Sweet Sixteen in 2012. 

Groce’s ties to the state of Indiana could make him an enticing candidate. A native of Muncie, Indiana, he started his coaching career at Taylor University in the NAIA before serving as an assistant for the Butler Bulldogs.

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1 hour ago, JSHoosier said:

I thought we were coming off that hire. Oof.

If one believes the rumors that Dolson “had no choice” and was forced to hire Woodson then one could argue that it wasn’t that hire. But Dolson’s out of excuses at this point. Another dud of a hire will speak volumes on the seriousness of the program. 

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I suggest listening to Podcast on the Brink with @Mike Wiemuth (iuinphilly). Mike gave a very interesting detail on what NC coaches have in common. Look for a coach who has set an all-time wins record at a school. I don't remember how far back his research went but it was eye opening to say the least. Only one did not and that was Coach K because he couldn’t top Knight at Army. Mike also (my inference only) seemed to allude to Drew as being the best candidate we could hope to get and I agree.

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1 hour ago, AZ Hoosier said:

Haven't we seen this movie before (MDW)?

Yep. I feel the same way. 

While I think Brownell would be an upgrade over Woody -- nobody would be mentioning him in connection with IU if he weren't from Indiana. If he were from anywhere else, nobody would care. 

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If we end up with Brownell, I give up. That’s definitely not a plan B coach imo. 
That would be the program simply giving up honestly. St Johns will go out and hire pitino and we end up with bronwell. I mean it would be just another cruel joke. People would try to talk themselves into liking the hire just like with woodson but they would know it was a huge settle.

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58 minutes ago, AH1971 said:

Of course he would, he's on TV right now.

That's my point. This job isn't (as) appealing to well-established coaches currently in a good and supporting environment. There's zero reason for somebody like Nate Oats or Bruce Pearl or even Dusty May to leave their current jobs for IU even though IU has more history. 

I'm telling you not to act surprised when IU hires either an up and comer from the lower ranks or a "mediocre P5 coach".

Does somebody have a case of the Mondays, AH1971? 

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Yep. I feel the same way. 
While I think Brownell would be an upgrade over Woody -- nobody would be mentioning him in connection with IU if he weren't from Indiana. If he were from anywhere else, nobody would care. 
Not sure he is even an upgrade. If you don't count this year his conference record is 128-126. That really no better than woodson

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