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[Dave from Dayton 4,082]

I do believe...I do believe...I do...I do.....

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25 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

https://www.coachup.com/nation/articles/basketball-differences-between-ncaa

I appreciate that. I read the first 7 words and stopped :) 

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29 minutes ago, MikeRoberts said:

You didn’t, there are plenty of people that don’t have Stevens at the top of their list. It’s ok to:) and don’t spin it to “wouldn’t like”. It’s  all a matter of preference and why we are here - to discuss the ins and outs of this next hire.

a guy like Pearl for example would be a safer bet in my opinion. Clearly you feel different and that is ok too.
 

I didnt spin a thing. Stevens isn't high on your list, your words. 

A guy like Pearl... is less realistic than BS, imo. Soooo? ... hes lower on my list than BS. :) 

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4 minutes ago, Certified Sunshine Pumper said:

I didnt spin a thing. Stevens isn't high on your list, your words. 

A guy like Pearl... is less realistic than BS, imo. Soooo? ... hes lower on my list than BS. :) 

How is Pearl less realistic than Stevens, who has turned the job down now at least twice? Pearl is a sitting head coach at the collegiate level and a college basketball lifer. Stevens is the sitting President of the Celtics who hasn’t coached collegiately in over a decade.

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10 hours ago, JPCIVOP said:

I actually don't get the take that Stevens is not a safe choice to win at IU with whatever staff he wants. Woodson was an NBA guy, but was never known as an Xs and Os savant; Stevens was literally considered one of the best tactical coaches in the NBA. The choice for best tactical coach in college basketball would immediately be between him and Pitino. Would be happy to eat crow, but I would go so far as to say Stevens is not a gamble at all.

I think I would be hard pressed not to have Hurley on that list and possibly ahead of the two listed. 

 

8 hours ago, IndianaSconnie90 said:

Has there been a Brad Stevens example of someone being a successful collegiate coach, then spending time in the NBA only to come back to college and fail?

Not many. I wanted to say Montgomery or (Pink) Floyd. But after reexamining their records it really wasn’t that bad, and you could argue almost all of the ones that didn’t reach their former heights was the result of them taking worse jobs. There was a time I wanted IU to throw a brinks truck at Montgomery and was shocked he left for the pros. 
 

Bottom line: if you’ve proved you were a good coach in the college game a stint in the pros doesn’t magically make that go away. Stevens would kill it here and if you’ve proved gave truth serum to all the P5 ADs in the country all but UConn (and maybe Kansas and Baylor) would probably admit they’d jettisoned their current coach for Stevens. But that’s also the reason he isn’t coming to IU: he can go nearly anywhere including staying at his current, very coveted job.

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1 minute ago, AH1971 said:

How is Pearl less realistic than Stevens, who has turned the job down now at least twice? Pearl is a sitting head coach at the collegiate level and a college basketball lifer. Stevens is the sitting President of the Celtics who hasn’t coached collegiately in over a decade.

Pearl is coaching the #1 team in the country, thats how. I understand all of Brad Stevens details. 

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1 minute ago, Certified Sunshine Pumper said:

Pearl is coaching the #1 team in the country, thats how. I understand all of Brad Stevens details. 

There’s still a better chance of hiring somebody who wants to coach college basketball vs somebody who has zero interest.

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25 minutes ago, IUBtown said:

What's everyone cooking for their watch party today?

Crow (grilled) with mason jar full of Old Grand Dad (100 proof) to wash it down. 

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1 minute ago, AH1971 said:

There’s still a better chance of hiring somebody who wants to coach college basketball vs somebody who has zero interest.

I think Pearl has zero interest and BS is more realistic than BP. 

[HoosierHoopster 8,672]

Neither Pearl nor Brad freaking Stevens will coach IU. Acceptance apparently is hard

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56 minutes ago, MikeRoberts said:

You serious? Someone posted that the nba was closer to the college game then ever before: I agree in some ways but that same rational was used to hire Woodson and all of these other former nba guys and it hasn’t panned out in most cases.

troll better?

But you stated,  "The experiment of bringing guys in from the pros to coach in college has proven to be a disaster almost across the board," which completely ignores that:

1) He has already been a successful college coach.

2)He was a highly successful NBA coach.

3) He has experience as a GM which is becoming much more relevant than ever before.

If you want the most similar comps of successful college guys to go to the NBA and back to college that would be Kelvin Sampson, John Calapari, Larry Brown, Rick Pitino, and Fred Hoiberg, Lon Kruger, Mike Montgomery.  Every single one of them came back and had as much or greater success than historically typical at their university. 

Oh and of those coaches, none were remotely as successful at the NBA level as Stevens.

So either you were trolling or wholly unaware of how college to NBA and  back to college coaches have fared.

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I don't need to keep recycling who's better or obtainable. Speculating future success..

It's Brad or Beard. Nothing else matters. 

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2 minutes ago, Gameface01 said:

I don't need to keep recycling who's better or obtainable. Speculating future success..

It's Brad or Beard. Nothing else matters. 

Lol 

[Uspshoosier 54,602]

1. Otzelberger 

2.  Drew 

3.  McDermott 

4.  Williams 

5.  DeVries

6.   Collins 

7.  Byington

8.  McCallum

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13 minutes ago, Certified Sunshine Pumper said:

I didnt spin a thing. Stevens isn't high on your list, your words. 

A guy like Pearl... is less realistic than BS, imo. Soooo? ... hes lower on my list than BS. :) 

You said I wouldn’t be happy with Stevens and that isn’t true. It’s fine.

as for realistic, someone like Pearl could be just as realistic as Stevens had our focus been there. The focus has been on Stevens and that is a decision Dolson made. It might work out great, i hope it does. I just see no way a guy like Pearl comes here and doesn’t have us competing at the top of the bigten and cbb.

I just want to win and think there are guys that are no brainers that are hot and have been hot when it comes to CBB that we should be prioritizing. Stevens was that guy for me 12 years ago.

 

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1 minute ago, MikeRoberts said:

You said I wouldn’t be happy with Stevens and that isn’t true. It’s fine.

as for realistic, someone like Pearl could be just as realistic as Stevens had our focus been there. The focus has been on Stevens and that is a decision Dolson made. It might work out great, i hope it does. I just see no way a guy like Pearl comes here and doesn’t have us competing at the top of the bigten and cbb.

I just want to win and think there are guys that are no brainers that are hot and have been hot when it comes to CBB that we should be prioritizing. Stevens was that guy for me 12 years ago.

 

You dont know where our focus has been, technically. 

I dont see Oated and Pearl as realistic options/I have noooo idea why they'd take our job. They're in cushy spots. 

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50 minutes ago, GP711 said:

3pm today:)

@IsaacTor am I doing this right?

on a real note it won’t be today but Bradley issa coming 

 

 

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2 minutes ago, Certified Sunshine Pumper said:

You dont know where our focus has been, technically. 

I dont see Oated and Pearl as realistic options/I have noooo idea why they'd take our job. They're in cushy spots. 

It’s been known that Pearl has wanted the IU job in the past, even as recent as 1 year ago. I can’t prove that but have heard that from people I trust and many here have shared that too. 

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19 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

1. Otzelberger 

2.  Drew 

3.  McDermott 

4.  Williams 

5.  DeVries

6.   Collins 

7.  Byington

8.  McCallum 

1. Drew

2. Otz 

3. Lloyd

4. McCollum

5. McDermott

6.  Byington

7. Devries

8. (Hold my nose) Cronin

Edited March 2 by Shoes_N_Shorts

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3 minutes ago, MikeRoberts said:

It’s been known that Pearl has wanted the IU job in the past, even as recent as 1 year ago. I can’t prove that but have heard that from people I trust and many here have shared that too. 

Allegedly, sure. 

I dont find it realistic that he would leave Auburn. Never did