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26 minutes ago, bobknightsghost said:

Cronin went 16-17 at UCLA last season in his fifth year there

His literal only tourney miss in 15 years? Covid they would have gone, and unless they lose out, they’re in this year. 

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19 minutes ago, bobknightsghost said:

I never said they weren’t. I was arguing that he would produce similar results to Tom crean. And someone said he would be better than that. Tom crean got fired one year removed from a big ten championship and a sweet sixteen for having a season like Cronin had last year. If crean wasn’t good enough, don’t hire Cronin.

I will never understand these type of arguments. Tom Crean got fired for a lot of things. 

But his inconsistency was one. His last 6 years, Crean finished 5th, 1st, 8th, 7th, 1st and 10th in the B1G. Like everything else about his tenure at IU, he was massively schizophrenic and inconsistent. 

When he won the B1G, he proved that he could never get past the Sweet 16. 

His recruiting was also massively trending down at that point. 

Crean had shown the world who he was by then - a mediocre coach. 

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Just now, OKHOOSIER said:

His literal only tourney miss in 15 years? Covid they would have gone, and unless they lose out, they’re in this year. 

we have a chance to hire a new coach, I hope we get a guy who does better than “make the tournament”

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21 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

Crean got fired for more reasons than wins and losses.  missing out on 5 top 100 Indiana kids in 1 recruiting cycle will speed up the process.    Lose  the state of Indiana high school coaches and your not going to last long as the IU head coach.  

I know this is true, but I hate it.  Indiana high school coaches should have no bearing on IU basketball coaching.  Indiana high school recruits decisions should have no bearing on IU basketball.

We want a national program not a regional program.

I couldn't care less if a recruit is from Indiana or Uranus.

Rant over.

Posted
9 minutes ago, HoosierTrav said:

Appreciate your optimism but I respectfully disagree. 

Curious. Why do you disagree?  Has it been longer? Do you know it isn’t BS or think it isn’t?

Posted
4 minutes ago, bobknightsghost said:

we have a chance to hire a new coach, I hope we get a guy who does better than “make the tournament”

So do I, but we have to consistently make the thing to have a shot at winning it, Cronin checks that box. McCollum doesn’t.. yet. That’s all I was saying. 

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2 minutes ago, Hoosierfan1901 said:

Some good stuff today on the thread, keep up the good work

Listen if someone posts a picture of a plane, I’m gonna call it like I see it. I live less than two miles from a municipal airport totally irrelevant to the search, so I’ve seen many small airplanes in my day. Very very good at spotting them. 

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6 minutes ago, bobknightsghost said:

Our conversation started with why McCollum over Cronin. My answer is because I’d rather take a risk on a guy like McCollum who could be the next A tier coach than hire a guy who we already know has peaked at B tier.

It’s completely illogical to say the 53 year old winning 69% of his games at UCLA with 3 sweet 16s and 1 final four in the past four season has “peaked at B tier” but the dude with less than 1 year of coaching experience in D1 basketball “could be the next A tier coach.” He has quite literally never experienced anything like the high stakes fishbowl that is IU basketball or even anything close to P5 basketball. This time last year he was coaching a D2 school in a 2,500 person gym. 

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1 minute ago, OKHOOSIER said:

So do I, but we have to consistently make the thing to have a shot at winning it, Cronin checks that box. McCollum doesn’t.. yet. That’s all I was saying. 

Yeah I get. Just for me personally, I would rather take a chance on McCollum. We don’t know what he is yet. We know what Cronin is, and I’m hoping for better.

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33 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

Why would Cronin produce similar results to Crean when he hasn’t for the past 15 years? Crean’s last four years at IU he went 17-15, 20-14, 27-8, and 18-16. Cronin has lost more than 12 games in a season once in the last 15 seasons. I guess he’s Crean if you make Crean’s bad seasons better and his good seasons just as good or better. 

He had a bad year last year because UCLA wasn’t taking NIL seriously enough and people act like that nullifies his impressive career.

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1 minute ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

It’s completely illogical to say the 53 year old winning 69% of his games at UCLA with 3 sweet 16s and 1 final four in the past four season has “peaked at B tier” but the dude with less than 1 year of coaching experience in D1 basketball “could be the next A tier coach.” He has quite literally never experienced anything like the high stakes fishbowl that is IU basketball or even anything close to P5 basketball. This time last year he was coaching a D2 school in a 2,500 person gym. 

Mick Cronin has coached over 700 games. And hasn’t had much tournament success to show for it. I hope we can get someone better.

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