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[#1fanofafrin]

[hoosiersoxfan]

4 minutes ago, ClarkCoHoosier said:

I’ve heard at least one of the players talk about that on a podcast. He said you could never make plans, because you never knew when practice would be. 

I spoke to a player that played for Crean a couple years after he graduated at a party.  The ex-player was very intoxicated at the time and you would not believe some of the stories he told me and my buddies about Crean.  He wasn't the perfectly behaved person and coach he tries to make himself out to be.

[Kentuckysucks]

6 minutes ago, SlammySammy said:

Well, the guy never played if I am remembering correctly.....degree in accounting...it’s hard to identify with players and other coaches IMO if you have not played at the same level

He went to school to be a Forest Ranger I think.

[ronzo4IU]

It’s May or Stevens for me or bust,  then you might as well take a chance on McCollum or someone like Kevin Young and let them try to create their own history here with all the resources at their disposal.
I’m frankly pretty impressed with Kevin Young, but I’d rather stay away from someone that’s had a long tenure at some other college and growing long in the tooth.

[mamasa]

8 minutes ago, SlammySammy said:

Well, the guy never played if I am remembering correctly.....degree in accounting...its hard to identify with players and other coaches IMO if you have not played at the same level

Very good point! I never really thought about that bond!!!

[MonteMarcaccini]

4 minutes ago, SlammySammy said:

I beg to differ....Marines use this tactic and it acclimates young people to learn how to adapt....very proven technique....Marines did this kind of **** all the time and while frustrating at the time, makes perfect sense when you hear the science behind it...

Probably effective for marines preparing for life/death scenarios and I no doubt believe that Crean read it and applied it.

For college kids playing basketball?  It’s a stretch that was universally disliked by the team.
we’ll agree to to disagree.

[SlammySammy]

1 minute ago, ronzo4IU said:

It’s May or Stevens for me or bust,  then you might as well take a chance on McCollum or someone like Kevin Young and let them try to create their own history here with all the resources at their disposal.
I’m frankly pretty impressed with Kevin Young, but I’d rather stay away from someone that’s had a long tenure at some other college and growing long in the tooth.

Isnt he in his first year as a college coach??

[Motley's]

30 minutes ago, Kentuckysucks said:

And I always heard he never had the players on a schedule.  Like they get a text saying practice in a half hour don’t be late.  Maybe @Chris007 can confirm that.

Bielfeldt basically confirmed this:

Beilein is known by his players for planning out every minor detail in the team’s practice and workout schedule a month in advance, so when Bielfeldt gets a text from Crean saying the team has the day off just a few hours before practice, the difference between the two can be glaring.

“It’s very bizarre and different to compare the two coaching styles,” Bielfeldt said. “Coach Crean’s definitely a more passionate guy, while Beilein is more of a, I’ll use the word ‘Mastermind,’ sitting back and trying to see the big picture and weigh things out.”

“Coach Beilein is more of a teacher,” Bielfeldt said. “He’ll want you to be able to sit in the film room for an hour and be able to describe every cut and name it something so everyone has their own language, whereas (Indiana coach Tom) Crean will kind of just throw you out on the floor and have you run stuff and kind of coach while he goes.”

[ronzo4IU]

2 minutes ago, SlammySammy said:

Isnt he in his first year as a college coach??

Yes and has been in the NBA

[HoosierCoop]

I know that I couldn't stand Richard Pitino at Minnesota....but I am so intrigued by him as a potential candidate?

I feel given the right situation and resources, he could be just as effective as a Rick, Sr. or Donovan.  I keep telling myself I know we can do better.  Top 3 or 4 if we miss on #1 and #2? 

[Hoosier Guy]

I’d be surprised to see Bennett coach again.  He left Virginia due to the different landscape of collegiate athletics.

[Silat Player]

22 minutes ago, JSHoosier said:

In those 5 years Bennett averaged 22 wins per year and an average conference finish between 2 and 3. In his last 5 years here Crean averaged about 20 wins and an average conference finish of about 5th.

Crean didn't have the consistency of Bennett, inconsistency was one problem with Crean.

After the first 3 years of Crean (which we all seem to think are just mulligans, given the state of the program he inherited), here are his B1G finishes: 

5th
1st
8th
7th
1st
10th

He was the absolute definition of inconsistent. LOL

[Eagle’s Rug]

Just now, HoosierCoop said:

I know that I couldn't stand Richard Pitino at Minnesota....but I am so intrigued by him as a potential candidate?

I feel given the right situation and resources, he could be just as effective as a Rick, Sr. or Donovan.  I keep telling myself I know we can do better.  Top 3 or 4 if we miss on #1 and #2? 

Might as well call him Steve Alford Jr.  Same career arc.

[TheWatShot]

1 minute ago, HoosierCoop said:

I know that I couldn't stand Richard Pitino at Minnesota....but I am so intrigued by him as a potential candidate?

I feel given the right situation and resources, he could be just as effective as a Rick, Sr. or Donovan.  I keep telling myself I know we can do better.  Top 3 or 4 if we miss on #1 and #2? 

I'd prefer to stay away from candidates who got fired from P-5 jobs, especially those within our own conference. I think that makes it a harder sell to the fans, and this next hire can't be a tough sell. 

[Hoosierfan2017]

4 minutes ago, HoosierCoop said:

I know that I couldn't stand Richard Pitino at Minnesota....but I am so intrigued by him as a potential candidate?

I feel given the right situation and resources, he could be just as effective as a Rick, Sr. or Donovan.  I keep telling myself I know we can do better.  Top 3 or 4 if we miss on #1 and #2? 

I don’t want to hire someone who flamed out at the P5 level in hopes that they can do differently with more resources. Some guys just aren’t built for the P5 level but are successful at lower levels. If we had to hire a Pitino I’d much rather go with his 72 year old dad. 

[HoosierHoopster]

11 minutes ago, hoosiersoxfan said:

I spoke to a player that played for Crean a couple years after he graduated at a party.  The ex-player was very intoxicated at the time and you would not believe some of the stories he told me and my buddies about Crean.  He wasn't the perfectly behaved person and coach he tries to make himself out to be.

I’m impressed that he played for Crean, after graduating at a party

[Chris007]

Watching the video of Rabby and Trevor talking about the coaching search on Peegs my first thought is. Who are two guys who have never played ball in their life for $200 Alex. Just kidding though. Lots of good information but nothing too earth-shattering. 

[MonteMarcaccini]

5 minutes ago, Motley's said:

Bielfeldt basically confirmed this:

Beilein is known by his players for planning out every minor detail in the team’s practice and workout schedule a month in advance, so when Bielfeldt gets a text from Crean saying the team has the day off just a few hours before practice, the difference between the two can be glaring.

“It’s very bizarre and different to compare the two coaching styles,” Bielfeldt said. “Coach Crean’s definitely a more passionate guy, while Beilein is more of a, I’ll use the word ‘Mastermind,’ sitting back and trying to see the big picture and weigh things out.”

“Coach Beilein is more of a teacher,” Bielfeldt said. “He’ll want you to be able to sit in the film room for an hour and be able to describe every cut and name it something so everyone has their own language, whereas (Indiana coach Tom) Crean will kind of just throw you out on the floor and have you run stuff and kind of coach while he goes.”

Sorry we are getting away from the real reason for this thread but this statement is why I think Crean was terrible (using that lightly) at the end of his UGA tenure as it coincided with the new portal rules.

his best teams were veteran teams that seemingly were used to all of the manic behavior and could tune in what was important.  You bring in a bunch of new players each year to that style of coaching, it is a recipe for disaster.  

He is in a great spot.  He loves to talk and TV gives him that avenue.

[Trish]

6 minutes ago, Hoosier Guy said:

I’d be surprised to see Bennett coach again.  He left Virginia due to the different landscape of collegiate athletics.

Exactly this. I rather have Jay Wright even so. These two coaches have made their intentions clear, they are done with today’s college basketball. 

[Gnet550]

19 minutes ago, #1fanofafrin said:

Semi-serious question lol.....How many times did you "ask the 8 ball" before you got the answer you wanted it to say?

 

P.S. This is not a dig...I'm Sweden on Brad..would love to have him, not sure what to think if he is actually still considering.