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3 minutes ago, Hippopotamo said:

My middle school basketball coach would be an upgrade. That doesn’t mean Cronin is worth getting excited about. 

You COULD make an argument that Cronin is a Top 10 college basketball coach. I would be excited about having that at IU. UCLA's NIL resources are awful also. 

[Juwan Moye 546]

14 minutes ago, 5fouls said:

So, we're at the point where we accept a slightly better version of mediocrity?  I get it that Stevens said no.  I get it that May might say no.  But, look for the potential home runs from the other names on the list.  Cronin has already proven over the course of 21 years to NOT be a home run.

Cronin is objectively a top-20 coach in the sport. Not sure what expectations are here. The only other realistic candidates who seem to be in that vein are Beard. May is still not quite there but may be in the near future.

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4 minutes ago, Hippopotamo said:

My middle school basketball coach would be an upgrade. That doesn’t mean Cronin is worth getting excited about. 

For some people he isn’t worth getting excited about but for others he might 

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Just now, Juwan Moye said:

Cronin is objectively a top-20 coach in the sport. Not sure what expectations are here. The only other realistic candidates who seem to be in that vein are Beard. May is still not quite there but may be in the near future.

If May takes this team to a protected top 4 seed, he is absolutely a top 20 coach. 

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Turns out Isaac did end up being a legend, just for different reasons than originally thought.  

Surprised at some of the visceral reactions this morning, considering it seems most people here aren't buying what Isaac and GP are selling anymore.  

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6 minutes ago, normandale97 said:

If we get a coach with a near 70% win percentage that makes the tournament every year, I'll be satisfied. I don't know what people want? 

Cronin has a 70% win percentage in conference play as well since he took over at UCLA. People trying to knock the guy on his coaching chops are absurd.

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42 minutes ago, Scotty R said:

I will do you all a favor a leave this board 

This board is like a cult and the insiders are Jim Jones and and the others are the followers. If you question the leaders then the followers jump anyone who question the cult 

Have fun in fantasy land

I don’t agree with, but like the way you put this post together, lol.

However, no, it’s not that the Board, like a cult, jumps anyone who questions the “insiders,” it’s not being big on attacking the regular posters here who some refer to as insiders, Chris etc.

I have personally repeatedly said the BS talk is just that, BS, imo, that I can’t wait for the endless fantasy that is the BS following to die out so we can see who really is in the running, again imo. That’s worlds different than castigating guys who post here regularly and are either either just sharing info they believe or are trying to put 2 and 2 together.
End of the day it’s all speculation, no one here actually “knows,” and it should be read in fun or just interest. You know, it’s just a message board. 
And this thread is now hysterical, lol

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1 minute ago, Juwan Moye said:

Cronin has a 70% win percentage in conference play as well since he took over at UCLA. People trying to knock the guy on his coaching chops are absurd.

Seen someone knocking his post season success but he’s made a sweet 16 and final 4 three out of the last 4 years. Anything can happen in a single elimination tourney but those are pretty good results to me

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1 minute ago, MrBBall said:

If May takes this team to a protected top 4 seed, he is absolutely a top 20 coach. 

I don't care for list-style rankings of coaches... I think of them in tiers for the most part. 

Idk where Dusty ranks, but I know hiring him would be the coup of the century in the B10 if they somehow pull it off

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6 minutes ago, Home Jersey said:

Sometimes you're better off getting on base than swinging and missing. 

We're down 0-2 on the last two hires... 3 strikes, you're out. 

Hire a consistent winner and give yourself a shot, IMO. 

Swing for the fences when we're coming from a position of strength.

NIL is opening the door for us to have a 1 year turnaround with a proven winner coach.

I'd like to roll with that and see what they can do with IU's resources. There is upside there, why write them off entirely?

Flaming out on 3rd straight hire could be the nail in the coffin.

I'd take Cronin over guys like Calhoun or Bucky McMillan right now 100x over. 

I'd have to think hard about him vs. McCollum if it came down to that (not that we'll ever know). 

If you think Cronin is mediocre you're not looking hard enough at the rest of the CBB landscape. 

Play it safe now, regret it later.

The upside with McCollum is too good to ignore.  I wanted Stevens and I'll concede the idea of May over McCollum, but I can't go beyond that.  We're Portland at that point.

 

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4 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

For some people he isn’t worth getting excited about but for others he might 

Cronin, or his middle school coach?

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Just now, Unexpectedflash said:

Seen someone knocking his post season success but he’s made a sweet 16 and final 4 three out of the last 4 years. Anything can happen in a single elimination tourney but those are pretty good results to me

100% this. People seem to put a lot of weight on success in March and I think it should be considered in part. But it's single elimination, like you said, anything can happen. That's what I mean when I say hiring a consistent winner gives you a shot and there's upside there. If he can build a team that's regularly going to the Sweet 16, every now and then you've got the ability to make a run. All you can ask for as a fan. Being able to sustain success and do it at multiple schools is what I want to see. 

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11 hours ago, Scotty R said:

I posted many times on here about how these so called insiders have been wrong

But you took to different post mixed them up and said something that was even close to what I said. So that’s called lying. I’ve said many times that what I share might end up wrong but o never make it up. That’s sad. I hope you get help.

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Just now, HoosierHoopster said:

Cronin, or his middle school coach?

Both 

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5 minutes ago, MrBBall said:

If May takes this team to a protected top 4 seed, he is absolutely a top 20 coach. 

I’m a May fan, got into it with Tyme who was trying to say Woodson was a better coach which… yeah good call Tyme.

But top-20 is a REALLY high bar. May’s results so far have been great no doubt, but I think sustained excellence is required when you’re talking at that level.

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2 minutes ago, 5fouls said:

Play it safe now, regret it later.

The upside with McCollum is too good to ignore.  I wanted Stevens and I'll concede the idea of May over McCollum, but I can't go beyond that.  We're Portland at that point.

 

I admire your conviction, truly. Because I do love McCollum. I just don't know enough about him to say he could withstand the obviously wonky environment at IU. He certainly could be worth the learning curve if time is afforded to him. And he certainly could be a Kelsey like, 1 year turnaround hire. I would personally like the hire, but I would be more apprehensive about it than May, McDermott, McCasland, Buzz and Cronin. Suppose that's the trade off you take for the potential home run hire. We desperately need to win again... looking forward to the next coach being one who can do that for us.  

[normandale97 486]

3 minutes ago, Unexpectedflash said:

Seen someone knocking his post season success but he’s made a sweet 16 and final 4 three out of the last 4 years. Anything can happen in a single elimination tourney but those are pretty good results to me

He would be a legend if he could pull that off here. I would have to check the numbers but Indiana Football might have as many or more postseason appearances than basketball in the past 10 years. 

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8 hours ago, IsaacTor said:

Just had a long sit down with a buddy getting a full update. As of now the plan is to have brad sign the contract on March 2nd. He wants to essentially finish his season as a GM with the Celtics which mainly ends in March 1st as a GM. The verbal agreement still stands but he does not want any announcement until after that point. So the signing Monday won't occur but this is all but locked down. Contract is 6 years 67 million and brad has an option to extend to 10 years after year 3. Includes promises towards IU funded NIL and assistant pools but I don't know the value behinds those numbers. 

Just be patient. Hate me because of Goodman's tweet but there is a reason for all this optimism and it's that Brad still is a verbal agreement with IU and both IU and Stevens camp agree to all contract terms. 

 

BS (not Brad Stevens) 

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13 minutes ago, normandale97 said:

If we get a coach with a near 70% win percentage that makes the tournament every year, I'll be satisfied. I don't know what people want? 

Just a comparison…

RMK had a .735 winning percentage overall and .700 B1G winning percentage in his IU tenure.

Overall, including Army and Texas Tech, his winning percentage was.709.

In his 29 years at IU he only missed the dance 4 times and in 2 of those 4 years he won the championship of the tournament he was in, and in the final game in a 3rd.

He was consistently playing into the 2nd weekend of the dance until the last 5 years or so.

Not saying Cronin is the equal of Knight, but always good to put things in perspective.

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11 minutes ago, Juwan Moye said:

Cronin is objectively a top-20 coach in the sport. Not sure what expectations are here. The only other realistic candidates who seem to be in that vein are Beard. May is still not quite there but may be in the near future.

He’s top-15ish by any metric. And this list has dudes farther up we wouldn’t want with inflated numbers from earlier in career like Calipari.