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15 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

He had a great first year at Drake, definitely. Drake wasn’t exactly in the dumpster when he took it over, and he benefited from continuity by bringing over many of his players. IU will basically have an empty roster heading into the transfer portal. Can be navigate the portal to build a team on the fly that can compete in the Big 10 next season? 

Going through Drake stats last year though, 5 of their top 6 guys in minutes did transfer out. Not the same exact DeVries entire roster that made the NCAA tournament last year. Definitely have to consider the spotlight at IU would be drastically different than Drake, but it's not like he's just Bruce Weber taking advantage of a Bill Self built Illinois team.

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7 minutes ago, Hoosierfanyuh said:

Yep.  Anybody making absolute declarations in either direction of it happening or not is personal bias.  Nothing has moved forward.  It’s not that deep yet.  But I think people can see today the level of coach we are probably at.  Unless Dolson has a shocker up his sleeve of Donovan, Wright, Few, etc., I think we are working at a level lower than the TJO, Cronin, or McDermott’s of the world.  Beard would be in that level.  Hopefully money talks after a disappointing exit for the TJO, Cronin, or McDermott level.  I have legit no clue which way we go, but I trust Dolson in this process more than previous AD.  Even if the name isn’t the sexy name.  

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So he is just talking nonsense out of his @$$?

Good to know that we can ignore goodman at this point since he is clearly going for engagement and clicks at this point


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I don't see what he is saying as that bad. He is saying iu should just hire beard at this point. Then says he don't think they will. That's his opinion and probably spot on. I admire the ones who say relax were going to get a great coach. No we are probably going to hire a safe crappie coach

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4 minutes ago, coonhounds said:

I don't see what he is saying as that bad. He is saying iu should just hire beard at this point. Then says he don't think they will. That's his opinion and probably spot on. I admire the ones who say relax were going to get a great coach. No we are probably going to hire a safe crappie coach

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I think 15-25 years ago we definitely hire from the McDermott or TJO level of college basketball.  I just don’t think we win enough and coaches see how impatient the fanbase and University will be.  Not an easy job when you know a 180 on culture will have to occur without the benefit of patience.  Now we are probably at a lower tier of hire with the same requirements.  More money for sure.  At some point we just have to win.  I do like some of the other unnecessary barriers are seemingly not in place this hire.  I have hope.  No expectations. 

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58 minutes ago, TheDMV said:

Goodman backing up what I said Thursday. The fan wish list was only that - a fan wish list. The job isn’t what fans think it is. 
 

 For what it’s worth, had not heard anything about Beard being a real candidate as of mid last week.

Why would you have heard Beard? I thought you were only close to Turgeon.

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Just now, HoosierSadaseci said:

With how it appears the coaching search is unraveling out of control, you would think Chris, RTZ, Jerry, etc...would chime in one way or another with what they've mostly recently have heard...but we're not getting that...why?...I think it's because this search is going how Scott Dolson wants it to...

….this!

besides, some of these posters want to be talked off the ledge every hour. Geesh! 
 

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Ok. So let’s get a synopsis of today: Goodman says that we’re out of the running for our top guys and then says we should hire Beard if we want to win but would be surprised if that happened. Rabjohns confirms Beard is getting vetted and that Brownell is definitely a candidate. I just think all this conjecture is proving Dolson is keeping it close to the vest…which is very true. Nobody really knows what’s going on but a select few. Time will tell.

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4 minutes ago, HoosierSadaseci said:

With how it appears the coaching search is unraveling out of control, you would think Chris, RTZ, Jerry, etc...would chime in one way or another with what they've mostly recently have heard...but we're not getting that...why?...I think it's because this search is going how Scott Dolson wants it to...

They have no clue.  They were fed more bs from their "sources", now realize they were duped once again, and can't respond.

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I think 15-25 years ago we definitely hire from the McDermott or TJO level of college basketball.  I just don’t think we win enough and coaches see how impatient the fanbase and University will be.  Not an easy job when you know a 180 on culture will have to occur without the benefit of patience.  Now we are probably at a lower tier of hire with the same requirements.  More money for sure.  At some point we just have to win.  I do like some of the other unnecessary barriers are seemingly not in place this hire.  I have hope.  No expectations. 
I agree with everything you said. I am of the belief we pay good enough that if you have confidence in your abilities you would want to come here and be a hero! This is part of coaching at a big basketball school. Winning is the expectation and patience from fans isn't part of it.

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2 hours ago, go iu bb said:

Rabby says Beard is getting vetted.

He's added that there are still steep hills for Beard to climb from what he's heard.

He thinks that IU will move on from Beard as a result of the vetting.

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They have no clue.  They were fed more bs from their "sources", now realize they were duped once again, and can't respond.

I trust them more than the **** stirrers like goodman.


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18 minutes ago, OKHOOSIER said:

There's also a metric ****-ton of plausible deniability if any of those three actually got hired. It's a zero risk assumption, he doesn't look like an idiot for that if he ends up incorrect. It is simply "I am as shocked as everyone else across the landscape that IU landed X,Y, or Z" because it would be massive earth shaking news in CBB, and across the NBA too if it was BS. He can just fall in with all the other media types who all thought none of those were ever realistic. 

I am in no way saying I think any of that actually happens, but this is not some crazy sourced leak of information saying BS, SD and TJO are out lol

Nobody else has come out and said they were out of the running like Goodman did. He’s putting himself out there to look very good or very stupid

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