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[Stuhoo]

16 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

Yeah, I go with the kid from Butler. But I think either will help. We have a lot of moving parts here. We're taking one of the two, we still want the 5-star Reneu, and we still want Mcneil. If everything happens who leaves? Lots of stuff going on that maybe the staff knows but we don't.

 

Mike Woodson (talking to himself): "I'm a nice person and I'll always support the kids during the time they're with us, but I'll be damned if you think 21-14 is acceptable. Durr, Stewart, Lander? Hell no. I made it completely clear to them that it wasn't working out for them at IU. That was a first year thing and I didn't like it much. So,  I'll be damned if you think I'm ever turning down the chance to upgrade my chances of winning."

 

[dwtaylor1055]

10 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

Would that be called someone taken to the Woodshed? 

taken to some sort of shed

[Chris007]

5 minutes ago, MikeRoberts said:

We have a solid core still technically on the team and we should do everything possible to keep that core. We should also be looking at what that core is missing and filling those voids.

Dennis seems like a good player and person but doesn’t fill any major void. That void being a multi-dimensional offensive player, able to create his own shot from 3, mid-range and driving to the hoop

I haven't watched many highlights of him but from what I'm told he would be the best defensive player on the floor, the best at getting to the rim with the exception of X, and he shoots the 3 better than Galloway. I think the staff is getting to the point of do we need an Anthony Leal at the end of the bench?

[Chris007]

1 minute ago, Stuhoo said:

 

Mike Woodson (talking to himself): "I'm a nice person and I'll always support the kids during the time they're with us, but I'll be damned if you think 21-14 is acceptable. Durr, Stewart, Lander? Hell no. I made it completely clear to them that it wasn't working out for them at IU. That was a first year thing and I didn't like it much. So,  I'll be damned if you think I'm ever turning down the chance to upgrade my chances of winning."

 

With everyone were recruiting, I'm worried and working on my game if I'm Logan and Leal. 

[Stuhoo]

10 hours ago, AKHoosier said:

Do we need another Galloway? 

I'm trying to see how this one makes sense. He seems like the type you add if you have starting guards that are both shooting 40%+ from 3 and you're trying to shore up some defense. 

I'm sure he can be a good player and contributor on a good team, just not at IU right now.

Galloway, TJD, and Geronimo were far and away our most active, disruptive defenders. When Galloway was out our defense suffered. A lot. Dexter Dennis is Galloway with a much better jump shot. It's not a great jump shot, but it's a Xavier Johnson "good when unguarded" jump shot. 

So yes, we need another Galloway, and Dennis is at least that.

[Hovadipo]

44 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

 

Mike Woodson (talking to himself): "I'm a nice person and I'll always support the kids during the time they're with us, but I'll be damned if you think 21-14 is acceptable. Durr, Stewart, Lander? Hell no. I made it completely clear to them that it wasn't working out for them at IU. That was a first year thing and I didn't like it much. So,  I'll be damned if you think I'm ever turning down the chance to upgrade my chances of winning."

 

Mike Woodson likely talks to Mike Woodson only in the 3rd person.

[JSHoosier]

Galloway's shot is completely busted, so very low standard.  Dennis shot a whopping 30% last year, defenses won't care much about him taking the shot.

[lillurk]

I think the staff would like it if the AAC DPOY was also a dead-eye shooter, but if he was he’d be in the draft.

As pointed out above, CMW correctly identified shooting as an offensive weakness. Dennis isn’t a great shooter but, as @Stuhoo said, he’s an upgrade on Galloway in that department right now.

Shooting can be developed, too. I understand the hesitance to assume Bates will be a high-volume, high-% shooter next year, but sophomores who scouts say can shoot and who have the green light from their coaches are a terrific bet to improve in that area.

IU’s defense was good, but a little short of truly elite last year, and the leaks were on the wing. Dennis addresses that well. He’s a good fit with the type of 2/wing CMW has targeted; clearly long, athletics defenders are a priority. That also tells me CMW thinks he and the staff can teach/develop shooting 

IU (like every team) has two avenues to get better next year: get better on offense or get better on defense. Of course they can do both, but just because the defense was good doesn’t mean it can’t be improved upon. More Bates, Galloway, Geronimo, JHS, and a wing defender like Dennis helps on defense. Some of those players also likely improve the offense, even without massive shooting gains, when you consider whose minutes they’re replacing.

[Hovadipo]

1 minute ago, lillurk said:

I think the staff would like it if the AAC DPOY was also a dead-eye shooter, but if he was he’d be in the draft.

Thank you! The player everyone wants out of the portal will never be in the portal, because that's an NBA player.

We need talent upgrades and I'm not sure what that looks like if a conference DPOY doesn't check that box.

[HinnyHoosier]

Yeah, we need to be able to shoot the ball. But if that’s not going to drastically improve, and thus far it hasn’t seemed to trend that direction, then give me a guy who can put a good defensive team over the top to a great/elite defensive team. Great defense travels, takes away dependency on the three, and turns into more offensive opportunities and transition scoring.

And say the guys we have do obtain a modicum of improvement in their shooting. Now you potentially have lockdown D that makes an extra couple of threes per game even tougher for your opposition to overcome.


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[Uspshoosier]

Dexter at 53

iu transfers not in top 75 

[LamarCheeks]

27 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

Dexter at 53

iu transfers not in top 75 

McNeil is No. 29.

We made his final six. 

[Hovadipo]

31 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

Dexter at 53

iu transfers not in top 75 

"Coaches speaking anonymously" articles are the best. You get some good stuff from those.

[Hippopotamo]

I wonder if Dexter Dennis would be a hypothetical replacement for Geronimo if Race and Trayce return. 

[IUc2016]

SIAP.

Would be a good get imo, yes shooting % is low but he is an athlete on the wing we haven't in a while. 

[lillurk]

54 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

Dexter at 53

iu transfers not in top 75 

The scouting quoted here on him literally mentions he’s a good catch-and-shoot player. I’d love to see the Synergy #s on that type of 3 vs. off-the-dribble for him, and closely guarded, late clock, etc.

[NashvilleHoosier]

7 hours ago, JSHoosier said:

We have defense.  He's a guy you add if you have shooters and need to shore up defense.  We should be trying to address needs, not add someone that compounds a problem. 

He'd be a great get for someone that needs defense, he's not for someone that needs shooting.

No one would argue that we don't need to be a better shooting team. But our shooting doesn't magically make a 180 with 1 player from the portal. If we compare McNeil and Dennis, of course McNeil is the better shooter. But how much of a difference does he make compared to Dennis? We can never know for sure. When we're talking about improved shooting, we're all pretty hyper-focused on 3 point shooting, and rightfully so. McNeil made 1.8 threes per game last season. Dennis made 1.3. So a difference of 1.5 points per game. Dennis was the best defender in his conference. I have no clue what McNeil's defensive abilities are but I'm guessing not quite what Dennis' are. It's entirely conceivable that Dennis affects the game defensively to the tune of at least 1.5 points which neutralizes the advantage McNeil has in 3 point shooting. AND Dennis was only a 30% 3 point shooter this last year. His other 3 seasons combined he was a 35.8% 3 point shooter. Everything we see about the kid says he'll come here and work his tail off and be an excellent teammate and culture guy. And at 6'5", 210, he has the ability to switch and guard several positions. 

Now, I know I'm only making the comparison to one other player we're in the mix for. And some of this is guessing. But my point is it is quite a stretch to say that Dennis would compound a problem. He could arguably be a much bigger help to this team than any one player who shoots a bit better from 3 point range. There is much bigger picture to look at. 

[BGleas]

46 minutes ago, Hippopotamo said:

I wonder if Dexter Dennis would be a hypothetical replacement for Geronimo if Race and Trayce return. 

I wouldn't think so. Dennis is a wing and JG is a 4. We'd still need to replace JG if for some reason he left. 

[Demo]

12 minutes ago, BGleas said:

I wouldn't think so. Dennis is a wing and JG is a 4. We'd still need to replace JG if for some reason he left. 

Probably true, but there’s some logic to it if Woody wants to speed up pace of play, believes Trayce and Race are both coming back, and that they’re genuinely in on Reneau. Then, you’d be rotating Trayce/Race/Reneau through the 4/5 with Banks and maybe Duncomb finding some niche minutes, and X/JHS/Bates/Galloway/Dennis on the perimeter. But, that only makes sense if everything falls exactly like that. Otherwise, not so much. But, I think that would be a very good and interesting team.

[BGleas]

Just now, Demo said:

Probably true, but there’s some logic to it if Woody wants to speed up pace of play, believes Trayce and Race are both coming back, and that they’re genuinely in on Reneau. Then, you’d be rotating Trayce/Race/Reneau through the 4/5 with Banks and maybe Duncomb finding some niche minutes, and X/JHS/Bates/Galloway/Dennis on the perimeter. But, that only makes sense if everything falls exactly like that. Otherwise, not so much. But, I think that would be a very good and interesting team.

True, and maybe it's semantics, but in that scenario Reneau would be the JG replacement and Dennis would sort of replace Stewart if we're getting that granular.