NCAA MBB Transfer Portal

[Brass Cannon]

2 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

Crean’s best player leaves today. This is the NINTH player Crean has lost to the portal this offseason.

Crean’s response? Throw the departing player under the bus:

“Given the standards and expectations of Georgia Basketball, we wholeheartedly agree with K.D.’s desire to seek a new program,” Crean said. “We certainly wish him the best and really hope he finds success in all areas moving forward.”

Well you certainly can’t accuse him of not being consistent. 
 

What’s insane about the way coaching works is even after he gets fired next offseason he will eventually find work making 7 figures somewhere 

[Stuhoo]

1 minute ago, Brass Cannon said:

Well you certainly can’t accuse him of not being consistent. 
 

What’s insane about the way coaching works is even after he gets fired next offseason he will eventually find work making 7 figures somewhere 

Not so sure he will this time.

Mark Fox failed at UGA just before Crean and the best he could do was Cal Northridge (where he failed too). Crean has had more success, but this time it looks pretty ugly. The wins/losses are terrible—the player relations are worse.

 

[lillurk]

Because football staffs are larger there’s a place for a coach like Crean who has mixed results as a head man. He’d be a great offensive coordinator somewhere,  maybe (re-)learn some things about program management, trusting his staff, delegating, media relations, and player relations, then get another shot.

Kinda think Archie should do a version of this. Go coordinate the defense as an assistant somewhere for two years, watch the head man develop players offensively and show some humility to consider other systems on both sides of the ball, and get another head gig somewhere PAC-12, AAC, a-10, WCC

[lillurk]

Just now, lillurk said:

Because football staffs are larger there’s a place for a coach like Crean who has mixed results as a head man. He’d be a great offensive coordinator somewhere,  maybe (re-)learn some things about program management, trusting his staff, delegating, media relations, and player relations, then get another shot.

Kinda think Archie should do a version of this. Go coordinate the defense as an assistant somewhere for two years, watch the head man develop players offensively and show some humility to consider other systems on both sides of the ball, and get another head gig somewhere PAC-12, AAC, a-10, WCC

Maybe Cal wants to have a version of Saban's analysts in non-recruiting roles. The Miller bros could do it

[WayneFleekHoosier]

10 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

Not so sure he will this time.

Mark Fox failed at UGA just before Crean and the best he could do was Cal Northridge (where he failed too). Crean has had more success, but this time it looks pretty ugly. The wins/losses are terrible—the player relations are worse.

 

Maybe Izzo can convince ADMIN to replace him at MSU.  Lol. Wouldn’t that be great. 

[MikeRoberts]

10 minutes ago, lillurk said:

Because football staffs are larger there’s a place for a coach like Crean who has mixed results as a head man. He’d be a great offensive coordinator somewhere,  maybe (re-)learn some things about program management, trusting his staff, delegating, media relations, and player relations, then get another shot.

Kinda think Archie should do a version of this. Go coordinate the defense as an assistant somewhere for two years, watch the head man develop players offensively and show some humility to consider other systems on both sides of the ball, and get another head gig somewhere PAC-12, AAC, a-10, WCC

He couldn’t do that, his defense takes 3 years to learn

[Brass Cannon]

3 minutes ago, MikeRoberts said:

He couldn’t do that, his defense takes 3 years to learn

From what I saw it must take 5 years to learn 

[ramadden13]

1 minute ago, Brass Cannon said:

From what I saw it must take 5 years to learn 

After four years it works only against Iowa.

[RaceToTheTop]

53 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

Crean’s best player leaves today. This is the NINTH player Crean has lost to the portal this offseason. And none of them are coming back. And they are all players that were recruited to UGA by Tom Crean.

Crean’s response? Throw the departing player under the bus:

“Given the standards and expectations of Georgia Basketball, we wholeheartedly agree with K.D.’s desire to seek a new program,” Crean said. “We certainly wish him the best and really hope he finds success in all areas moving forward.”

Tom Crean needs to give up on coaching and go back to announcing.

He did the same thing speaking il of player's who stuck with the Georgia program when he took them over.....when asked late in the season if he would have done anything differently, he said that he 'wouldn't have kept so many of the players around.'

Honestly, Crean is a good (although creepy vibe) guy, but he has a huge flaw in saying things to the media that put blame on the players.

[cthomas]

45 minutes ago, lillurk said:

show some humility

This is a problem with a lot of coaches. The ego is too big to consider that someone else might have something to offer. That same ego will not allow them to accept responsibility when something goes wrong. We have seen that, I believe, with our last four coaches to varying degrees. I get a sense that is not the case with CMW. I think we have our guy.

[rayl456]

12 minutes ago, brumdog45 said:

He did the same thing speaking il of player's who stuck with the Georgia program when he took them over.....when asked late in the season if he would have done anything differently, he said that he 'wouldn't have kept so many of the players around.'

Honestly, Crean is a good (although creepy vibe) guy, but he has a huge flaw in saying things to the media that put blame on the players.

He may be a good guy, but he's lacking something if all these young men aren't satisfied with their bb experience with him.

[Southside]

3 hours ago, Stuhoo said:

Crean’s best player leaves today. This is the NINTH player Crean has lost to the portal this offseason. And none of them are coming back. And they are all players that were recruited to UGA by Tom Crean.

Crean’s response? Throw the departing player under the bus:

“Given the standards and expectations of Georgia Basketball, we wholeheartedly agree with K.D.’s desire to seek a new program,” Crean said. “We certainly wish him the best and really hope he finds success in all areas moving forward.”

Tom Crean needs to give up on coaching and go back to announcing.

Not saying Crean should have said any of that, but KDJ was a mess up. He had eligibility issues coming in (IIRC went to Hargrave to improve his chances), and missed 10 games last season due to grades. A lot of rumors about behavior as well. Overall, UGA isn't as bad as some SEC programs, but they have a decent history of program challenges. 

The article I read in the local paper made it sound like there were still a ton of kids on the roster even with so many leaving. Big classes, a lot of Jucos and portal transfers are inbound too. In short, sounded like a roster crunch. 

[lillurk]

8 hours ago, cthomas said:

This is a problem with a lot of coaches. The ego is too big to consider that someone else might have something to offer. That same ego will not allow them to accept responsibility when something goes wrong. We have seen that, I believe, with our last four coaches to varying degrees. I get a sense that is not the case with CMW. I think we have our guy.

Yes, a paradox of the profession is you can’t make it w/o some self-belief but if you buy into your own genius you’ll get passed.

[GloryDays]

10 hours ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

Maybe Izzo can convince ADMIN to replace him at MSU.  Lol. Wouldn’t that be great. 

 I know Izzo didn't want him replaced here.

  I also think the mentorship had very little to do with it.

[GloryDays]

10 hours ago, Brass Cannon said:

From what I saw it must take 5 years to learn 

Unless you're a shooter on the opposing team, then it's 5 minutes.

[go iu bb]

9 hours ago, Southside said:

Not saying Crean should have said any of that, but KDJ was a mess up. He had eligibility issues coming in (IIRC went to Hargrave to improve his chances), and missed 10 games last season due to grades. A lot of rumors about behavior as well. Overall, UGA isn't as bad as some SEC programs, but they have a decent history of program challenges. 

The article I read in the local paper made it sound like there were still a ton of kids on the roster even with so many leaving. Big classes, a lot of Jucos and portal transfers are inbound too. In short, sounded like a roster crunch. 

If anyone could have a roster crunch while having as many players transfer out as UGA has, it's Crean.

[JSHoosier]

9 hours ago, Southside said:

Not saying Crean should have said any of that, but KDJ was a mess up. He had eligibility issues coming in (IIRC went to Hargrave to improve his chances), and missed 10 games last season due to grades. A lot of rumors about behavior as well. Overall, UGA isn't as bad as some SEC programs, but they have a decent history of program challenges. 

The article I read in the local paper made it sound like there were still a ton of kids on the roster even with so many leaving. Big classes, a lot of Jucos and portal transfers are inbound too. In short, sounded like a roster crunch. 

A roster crunch with 9 players transferring out.  Even by Crean standards that's kind of impressive.

[ramadden13]

1 hour ago, JSHoosier said:

A roster crunch with 9 players transferring out.  Even by Crean standards that's kind of impressive.

I’m lowkey pretty glad Crean isn’t here for the expanded Transfer Portal world. Seems like a very bad fit.

[Class of '66 Old Fart]

Dushawn London - Virginia Tech decommit Michael Durr has heard from Oklahoma State, Penn State, Indiana, Pitt, Wake Forest, Depaul among others since reopening his recruitment source tells @247Sports.  Averaged 8.8 points and 7.9 rebounds.

https://www.gobblercountry.com/2021/5/10/22429952/virginia-tech-basketball-7-footer-michael-durr-backs-off-pledge-to-the-hokies-acc-basketball

https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/michael-durr-1.html

[Demo]

34 minutes ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

Dushawn London - Virginia Tech decommit Michael Durr has heard from Oklahoma State, Penn State, Indiana, Pitt, Wake Forest, Depaul among others since reopening his recruitment source tells @247Sports.  Averaged 8.8 points and 7.9 rebounds.

https://www.gobblercountry.com/2021/5/10/22429952/virginia-tech-basketball-7-footer-michael-durr-backs-off-pledge-to-the-hokies-acc-basketball

https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/michael-durr-1.html

Not to scout the stat line too closely, but a 7 footer playing 25 mins a game in the AAC and shooting 45% from 2 and averaging less than a block a game sounds......underwhelming. But, experienced post depth is nothing to sneeze at. Highly doubt a kid used to playing close to 30 mins is gonna view playing 15 mins backing up Jackson-Davis as his best option.