College Football Thread

[str8baller]

51 minutes ago, Pagoda said:

We’re close to being really pretty darn good… very frustrating we can’t quite get the offense to click.  

We’ve had close wins that went our way.  Eventually it goes against ya.

Fingers crossed we figure it out.

Agreed. Watching these other teams shoot themselves in the foot with stupid decisions makes one really appreciate Cig. People get mad at us establishing the run, but Cig won’t let the team do anything to beat ourselves. If one or two guys make a play or don’t turn it over, we win that yesterday. 

[Pagoda]

5 minutes ago, str8baller said:

Agreed. Watching these other teams shoot themselves in the foot with stupid decisions makes one really appreciate Cig. People get mad at us establishing the run, but Cig won’t let the team do anything to beat ourselves. If one or two guys make a play or don’t turn it over, we win that yesterday. 

Interestingly our national title odds slightly improved after yesterday.  Kinda funny.

To be clear I’m not thinking natty right now.  Just hoping we get can 10-20% more out of Hoover and maybe Khobie can jumpstart our run game.  I don’t know how this season plays out.

Things are certainly wide open in CFB this year.

[HoosierReb01]

19 minutes ago, Pagoda said:

Interestingly our national title odds slightly improved after yesterday.  Kinda funny.

To be clear I’m not thinking natty right now.  Just hoping we get can 10-20% more out of Hoover and maybe Khobie can jumpstart our run game.  I don’t know how this season plays out.

Things are certainly wide open in CFB this year.

Yeah, let's try to mix in the short pass game a little more also. Hoover doesn't have to make every play that far down field. Marsh and Chandler can get some YAC given a chance.

[Jeff Flabjohns]

We’re at 6 in the AP. I’ll take it

[LamarCheeks]

Fell one spot. Not bad. 

BYU makes a major jump. 

[BtownStrength]

1 minute ago, LamarCheeks said:

Fell two spots. Not bad. 

BYU makes a major jump. 

Just 1 spot i think. Dropped 2 in the Coaches 

[skhoosier2]

Really don’t understand Georgia not dropping out of the top 5. They lost at home to an unranked Auburn. We lost by a toe out of bounds and fell out of the top 5 to a ranked opponent. The SEC bias is really insane. 

[TheWatShot]

1 hour ago, skhoosier2 said:

Really don’t understand Georgia not dropping out of the top 5. They lost at home to an unranked Auburn. We lost by a toe out of bounds and fell out of the top 5 to a ranked opponent. The SEC bias is really insane. 

I think they're actually showing us more respect by only dropping us 1 spot. I saw comments from IU fans yesterday who were convinced we'd be out of the top 10. 

[LIHoosier]

Delaying the inevitable

 

[RaceToTheTop]

Combined poll rankings

Rank	Team	Con	1st place	AP	Coaches	Total
1	Miami	ACC	90	1697	1791	3488
2	Ohio State	B10	22	1649	1725	3374
3	BYU	B12	30	1675	1698	3373
4	Georgia	SEC		1382	1469	2851
5	Texas Tech	B12		1336	1414	2750
6	Indiana	B10		1370	1378	2748
7	Ole Miss	SEC		1360	1371	2731
8	Notre Dame	IND		1395	1332	2727
9	Utah	B12		1153	1222	2375
10	UCLA	B10		1159	1206	2365
11	Tennessee	SEC		1151	1193	2344
12	Kentucky	SEC		932	979	1911
13	Alabama	SEC		870	813	1683
14	Iowa	B10		747	807	1554
15	Houston	B12		785	730	1515
16	USC	B10		592	796	1388
17	LSU	SEC		529	569	1098
18	Wake Forest	ACC		574	514	1088
19	Texas	SEC		440	520	960
20	SMU	ACC		265	458	723
21	Florida	SEC		355	250	605
22	Missouri	SEC		290	274	564
23	Boise St	PAC		295	266	561
24	Northwestern	B10		254	256	510
25	Arizona	B12		136	141	277
26	Oregon	B10		79	189	268
27	Oklahoma St	B12		128	87	215
28	James Madison	SBC		52	80	132
29	Auburn	SEC		61	55	116
30	Mississippi St	SEC		30	32	62
31	New Mexico	MWC		6	16	22
32	Oregon State	PAC		3	17	20
33	Nebraska	B10			19	19
34	UTSA	AAC			13	13
35	Michigan	B10			10	10
36	North Dakota St	MWC			8	8
37	Wisconsin	B10			7	7
38	Duke	ACC			7	7
39	North Carolina	ACC			5	5
40	Pittsburgh	ACC			4	4
41	Air Force	MWC			3	3
42	North Texas	AAC			1	1

[Lebowski]

Morning all! How's everyone feeling after that Saturday massacre? Personally, I'm good here on my end. I guess having a competent coaching staff with a winning culture does that to you.

 

[Lebowski]

Apparently according to ChapGPT. No clue if true. 

[Home Jersey]

28 minutes ago, Lebowski said:

Morning all! How's everyone feeling after that Saturday massacre? Personally, I'm good here on my end. I guess having a competent coaching staff with a winning culture does that to you.

I'm feeling like we did everything possible to give that game away and still wound up a hair away from beating Ohio State. Would've been an all time classic comeback. 

If the staff can figure out a way of scheming around some of Hoover's shortcomings I feel like we can be a threat. That's a big if though.

The rest of the team is so competent and prepared we should be able to finish the season strong and be a tough out in the playoffs. 

[jermhoosierfan]

16 hours ago, LIHoosier said:

Delaying the inevitable

 

He is trying to save his job at the end of the year, and it will more than likely not do much in that regards.

[Lebowski]

5 minutes ago, Home Jersey said:

I'm feeling like we did everything possible to give that game away and still wound up a hair away from beating Ohio State. Would've been an all time classic comeback. 

If the staff can figure out a way of scheming around some of Hoover's shortcomings I feel like we can be a threat. That's a big if though.

The rest of the team is so competent and prepared we should be able to finish the season strong and be a tough out in the playoffs. 

I hear that. I'd also like to add the IUFB D is so good. So so good.  I'm enjoying my coffee knowing IUFB as a program is in such good shape regardless whatever happens the remainder of the season. 

[Stuhoo]

Hoover is pretty good, but I wonder if the staff is half-hoping that Hoover gets a slight hammy pull so that they can see what the offense would look like with Wilson as a dual threat quarterback. 

[skhoosier2]

8 minutes ago, Home Jersey said:

I'm feeling like we did everything possible to give that game away and still wound up a hair away from beating Ohio State. Would've been an all time classic comeback. 

If the staff can figure out a way of scheming around some of Hoover's shortcomings I feel like we can be a threat. That's a big if though.

The rest of the team is so competent and prepared we should be able to finish the season strong and be a tough out in the playoffs. 

All good points.  I do feel like Hoover is PART of the problem but if we could actually run the ball, I think his problems may work themselves out.

Was his throw perfect to end that game? No.  But as a receiver Marsh has to have some awareness and come down in bounds with a foot there.  He just did not think about what he was doing.  If it was Becker, that's a TD.  I was thinking about some of the differences in Cig's past teams and this one.  These transfers just don't seem to be as detailed, and the fundamentals don't seem as sound.  Missing tackles, special teams which is normally a strength has hurt us this year, and Josh missing throws not reading the RPO correctly at times.  I wonder if it's a lack of team leadership too.  The guys we lost last year had strong voices.  We always knew losing them would be a loss, but I think we are seeing just how much.

Regardless we were a foot away from winning that game probably playing the worst game of the season.  OSU can be beat.  If not for Marsh, we lose at Nebraska.  Defense is rounding into top form.  This team has all the tools to win, just need to figure out how to get it all to come together.  Really want to see them rebound in a big way this weekend at Michigan. 

[Lebowski]

Yeah, I don't think Hoover is an issue at all to be honest. The "issue", for me at least, is the run game over the last two weeks. 

Hoover is not Mendoza. He's more on par with Rourke. Every QB will be different but we have to keep in mind that Mendoza was something very special that even the coaching staff never experienced. 

The reason folks are talking about Hoover's play this past two weekends is because both games called for him to do Mendoza type things. In both games, there were multiple things you can point to that changes the outcome, better or worse. For example, against O$U, if Nico hits that 32 yard attempt, Hoover doesn't need to make that deep throw and we most likely go into OT. And honestly, there's probably something you can find on just about every single play in both games that changes the outcome. Close games are like that. 

[Hoosierfan2017]

7 minutes ago, Lebowski said:

Yeah, I don't think Hoover is an issue at all to be honest. The "issue", for me at least, is the run game over the last two weeks. 

Hoover is not Mendoza. He's more on par with Rourke. Every QB will be different but we have to keep in mind that Mendoza was something very special that even the coaching staff never experienced. 

The reason folks are talking about Hoover's play this past two weekends is because both games called for him to do Mendoza type things. In both games, there were multiple things you can point to that changes the outcome, better or worse. For example, against O$U, if Nico hits that 32 yard attempt, Hoover doesn't need to make that deep throw and we most likely go into OT. And honestly, there's probably something you can find on just about every single play in both games that changes the outcome. Close games are like that. 

Ehh.. I think Rourke, even with the torn ACL and thumb, clears Hoover. And I don’t think it’s particularly close. This squad with Rourke would be the national title favorite. Hoover has had the same issues all season. He can’t throw the ball accurately down field at all. He regularly under throws deep balls. There have been many passes to Becker that would be walk in touchdowns if he could hit him in stride. He regularly overthrows the 15-20 yard balls. His passes are often awkwardly placed where receivers have to adjust. His vision isn’t good either. He misses a lot of open guys. He hasn’t thrown any interceptions, but that’s in part because so many of his passes aren’t catchable by anyone. I recognize that before Cig, we very rarely had a QB better than Hoover, but his play has been a far cry from what we’ve experienced the two prior years. 

[Home Jersey]

The way we lost to OSU vs the way that ND lost to BYU makes me really hope we play ND in the playoffs. Our staff would expose the hell out of their staff.