How long are we stuck with Devries?

[realTomCrean]

Just now, Golfman25 said:

can bring in Michael Lewis and Dane Fife as assistants.  :)  

Yes, retaining Kenny Johnson as well. 

[JF87]

I was adamant that I didn't want Brad Brownell. Looks like I owe Brad Brownell an apology.  

[Aaron]

I put my trust in several coaches who have said to my face that they see the system will work when better players are there. Certainly, over fans on here who don't know the game at that level. 

Also DeVries has admitted his mistakes in last week, which is a lot more than I can say about either of the two previous regimes. If things are this bad at this time next yr, have to cut bait immediately.

However, cannot judge the staff on this roster of mid-major All Stars. They certainly deserve blame for putting THIS roster together, but need one more chance in my mind to see what they can do with correct talent. The bottom line is West and Martinelli have more complete games than anyone on Indiana's roster. 

Love the hustle of Reed Bailey and Conor Enright but reality is they have no business on a Big Ten floor and that is where our problems begin.

Also parts of our fan base who want Dolson fired for bringing us a national title in football because god for bid we are mediocre at basketball need to have their head examined. Yes, we need to fix this basketball program, but fans attitude of men's basketball is only thing that matters has got to stop if we want to stay as a high-major team across the board. Football is the driver and that's the reality.

Abandoning every non-elite team in every other sport and wanting coaches fired immediately when they fall out of top-25, is part of problem. While I think our fan base gets branded as 'toxic' unfairly for most part, there are corners off it who need to look at what they like about IU. If it's basketball only, and not any team with a Hoosier logo you may need to reevaluate.

The national media may know less on a day-to-day basis, but has no bias said IU would be 10th in Big Ten and miss tourney and roster was not talented enough. They were right unfortunately. 

Definitely not happy as a whole. However, DeVries ran out of answers this season after teams adjusted no matter what he tried. It's ok to be disappointed but don't overreact.

[TadQueasy]

6 minutes ago, JF87 said:

I was adamant that I didn't want Brad Brownell. Looks like I owe Brad Brownell an apology.  

no matter how bad things get, Brownell is never the correct answer. 

[Hoosierfan2017]

26 minutes ago, AH1971 said:

so firing and hiring 8 different coaches in a decade while shelling out $100+ million in buyout money is the move? If it were up to the adamant fan? My point exactly. Severance pay is arguably the best perk of being the basketball coach in Bloomington.

It’s not like firing any of the last 3 coaches was the wrong move. But if you’re going to get the same results regardless of the coach, might as well save the money.

[ronzo4IU]

18 minutes ago, Golfman25 said:

I don't think CDD has the fire needed, especially for the Big10.  It seems every other coach has an "ahole" mode.  From the old Franimal to Izzo, to even Collins.  Did you see him when the kid took the hit in the face - he was going to "kill" someone.  Even at the end, he was giving Martinellil the "fk yeah" face.  Not saying CDD has to be a raving lunatic, but at least show you have a pulse.  

Tell that to Brad Steven’s lol

[yogisballin]

22 minutes ago, str8baller said:

I brought it up earlier but I probably wouldn’t have said anything. The timing was weird. Why go out and call your players a steaming pile of garbage when they have tourney games in a couple days?
 

No kidding NW played harder…their coach loves them and their coach and AD didn’t go on the radio and tell the fanbase how awful they were two days earlier. WTF were Dolson and Devries thinking? 

Maybe it was an attempt to get the front court guys fired up?? I mean, I am not defending him but he wasn’t wrong. Personally, I’d rather someone be honest but I’m a little thicker skinned than most too

22 minutes ago, str8baller said:

[8bucks]

24 minutes ago, Aaron said:

I put my trust in several coaches who have said to my face that they see the system will work when better players are there. Certainly, over fans on here who don't know the game at that level. 

Also DeVries has admitted his mistakes in last week, which is a lot more than I can say about either of the two previous regimes. If things are this bad at this time next yr, have to cut bait immediately.

However, cannot judge the staff on this roster of mid-major All Stars. They certainly deserve blame for putting THIS roster together, but need one more chance in my mind to see what they can do with correct talent. The bottom line is West and Martinelli have more complete games than anyone on Indiana's roster. 

Love the hustle of Reed Bailey and Conor Enright but reality is they have no business on a Big Ten floor and that is where our problems begin.

Also parts of our fan base who want Dolson fired for bringing us a national title in football because god for bid we are mediocre at basketball need to have their head examined. Yes, we need to fix this basketball program, but fans attitude of men's basketball is only thing that matters has got to stop if we want to stay as a high-major team across the board. Football is the driver and that's the reality.

Abandoning every non-elite team in every other sport and wanting coaches fired immediately when they fall out of top-25, is part of problem. While I think our fan base gets branded as 'toxic' unfairly for most part, there are corners off it who need to look at what they like about IU. If it's basketball only, and not any team with a Hoosier logo you may need to reevaluate.

The national media may know less on a day-to-day basis, but has no bias said IU would be 10th in Big Ten and miss tourney and roster was not talented enough. They were right unfortunately. 

Definitely not happy as a whole. However, DeVries ran out of answers this season after teams adjusted no matter what he tried. It's ok to be disappointed but don't overreact.

I really think we have a ways to go to be mediocre.  

[cbp4iu]

I think what’s crazy is I think a lot more level headed IU fans and fans who will die on the hill for a coach have turned against DeVries already. Twitter and Facebook tonight is about as bad as the Archie Miller booed in his last game 

[Josh]

47 minutes ago, cbp4iu said:

If Darian DeVries is serious about making changes and adapting it has to start tomorrow. He needs to have his guy back channeling. He needs to be scouting watching film on guys. He probably should have sit downs early next week. I would be watching every second of film possible. Any recruit that decommits that has upside or talent… I’m reaching out to them and getting them on visits. Realistically if we don’t bring 5/6 players in on top of our recruits we won’t be much better barring getting 3 elite players

Nah, he's already been fired from all that.  Now it's Ryan Carr's responsibility

[AH1971]

4 minutes ago, 8bucks said:

I really think we have a ways to go to be mediocre.  

IU was mediocre this year with a pretty talentless roster. But mediocre isn’t going to cut it here for multiple years. Next has to be better.

[RoadRage]

I'd love to be proved wrong, but I just can't see DeVries putting together a much better team next season. If he gets 20 wins and makes the tournament next season I will be shocked! Dolson f'd up big time when he let Quinn run the basketball program! By the time we fired Woody a dozen other programs were hiring coaches too, from what I have seen so far, we drew the short straw!

If I were DeVries I would hire someone with Euro connections and bring in some Euro players that can shoot and rebound!

[IU Prof]

So when do the Brad rumors start?

[Pagoda]

1 minute ago, RoadRage said:

I'd love to be proved wrong, but I just can't see DeVries putting together a much better team next season. If he gets 20 wins and makes the tournament next season I will be shocked! Dolson f'd up big time when he let Quinn run the basketball program! By the time we fired Woody a dozen other programs were hiring coaches too, from what I have seen so far, we drew the short straw!

Quinn was one of Scott’s bosses.  Quinn was gonna do whatever he wanted and he unfortunately did for a while.

[Golfman25]

30 minutes ago, ronzo4IU said:

Tell that to Brad Steven’s lol

You mean this guy?  :) 

 

[Muskie plays the four]

Just now, IU Prof said:

So when do the Brad rumors start?

I miss flight tracking 

[RoadRage]

4 minutes ago, Muskie plays the four said:

I miss flight tracking 

I miss white whale memes.....

[BtownStrength]

4 minutes ago, RoadRage said:

I miss white whale memes.....

Hey cheer up, only 2 more years and we can do it all over again

[AZ Hoosier]

Two things.

1. DeVries isn't going anywhere yet.
2. Brad Stevens is never coming.

Can we just give all that crap a rest?

DeVries recruited a poor roster for this season. There are easily several reasons for it, including missing on some guys and being late getting his staff completed. Let's see what he does this off-season with both staffing and roster. I have no problem saying that the whole basketball program was a hot mess this year, and I bagged on the team, their effort and their overall lack of skill across the board. But this is year one with an extenuating situation. I'm gonna give CDDV a pass and see what he does next year before we break out the torches and pitchforks.

[Josh]

10 minutes ago, AZ Hoosier said:

Two things.

1. DeVries isn't going anywhere yet.
2. Brad Stevens is never coming.

Can we just give all that crap a rest?

DeVries recruited a poor roster for this season. There are easily several reasons for it, including missing on some guys and being late getting his staff completed. Let's see what he does this off-season with both staffing and roster. I have no problem saying that the whole basketball program was a hot mess this year, and I bagged on the team, their effort and their overall lack of skill across the board. But this is year one with an extenuating situation. I'm gonna give CDDV a pass and see what he does next year before we break out the torches and pitchforks.

We already saw what he does with a roster.  It was awful.

Next year Ryan Carr gets to decide what the roster looks like.

No pass for Devries.  He was terrible this year