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[RoadRage]

12 minutes ago, Pagoda said:

I don’t have any intel on this, but one way to look at it is per Cig the player retention and future plans discussions happened the week after the BTCG.  I would guess the QB room plans were known and in place before the Rose Bowl, which as we know went well.

Maybe I’m wrong, this dynamic crossed my mind too, but this is why I’m not too worried.

And the opportunity is so big Fernando wouldn’t let his team down even if he disagreed with the QB plans (and who knows how he or Alberto actually feel).  

I think that makes a lot of sense, after I ask the question I also thought to myself that likely anyone we bring in would be a one year guy, so Alberto would have another year to mature and could still be a future QB, just maybe not next season?

I just don't want anything upsetting Fernando right now, he needs to not be worried about anything but the next game!

[tyappleg]

26 minutes ago, RoadRage said:

I think that makes a lot of sense, after I ask the question I also thought to myself that likely anyone we bring in would be a one year guy, so Alberto would have another year to mature and could still be a future QB, just maybe not next season?

I just don't want anything upsetting Fernando right now, he needs to not be worried about anything but the next game!

I've said this before, but, I'm almost certain the plan was to have Fernando for 2 years and then Alberto gets the keys his junior year.   Bringing in Hoover is still the same timeline, just with a different guy next year. 

[cbp4iu]

 

[Golfman25]

57 minutes ago, Pagoda said:

I don’t have any intel on this, but one way to look at it is per Cig the player retention and future plans discussions happened the week after the BTCG.  I would guess the QB room plans were known and in place before the Rose Bowl, which as we know went well.

Maybe I’m wrong, this dynamic crossed my mind too, but this is why I’m not too worried.

And the opportunity is so big Fernando wouldn’t let his team down even if he disagreed with the QB plans (and who knows how he or Alberto actually feel).  

From what I gather, Alberto is "Cig's guy."  He found him, he recruited him to JMU.  And then brought him to IU -- he could have told him to stick with JMU.  Now realistically, Alberto was a mid-major 3* recruit, so he'll need to prove his worth in the big time.  And that may take years to develop vs the mid-major level.  Could definitely see Cig having the "patience grasshopper" speech with him.  Lay out a development plan, and work the plan.  He's gotten a chance to actually play a little and throw a few TDs.  He's only an injury away from having to start a few games.  I would certainly hate the portal to negatively affect the development of our younger players.  In Cig we trust.  :)  

[tyappleg]

Looks like its probably going to be Livingstone instead of Marsh.  (Guessing Marsh may have got too pricey).  

He's very talented and was only a freshman, should hopefully get at least 2-3 years from him.  

[Brass Cannon]

Just now, tyappleg said:

Looks like its probably going to be Livingstone instead of Marsh.  (Guessing Marsh may have got too pricey).  

He's very talented and was only a freshman, should hopefully get at least 2-3 years from him.  

Doesn’t sound like we are officially out on Marsh.  Could be that Livingstone was willing to sign.  Feels like we are going for two WRs 

[tyappleg]

Just now, Brass Cannon said:

Doesn’t sound like we are officially out on Marsh.  Could be that Livingstone was willing to sign.  Feels like we are going for two WRs 

Nick Marsh's mother chimes in. 

[skhoosier2]

Anyone have an idea of what the NIL budget is?  Would be hard to overspend at receiver ie Marsh when we have a lot of needs  plus likely need to give some raises to your current players to retain them. Don’t get me wrong I’d love to have Marsh but I get the feeling he’s wanting big payday and we likely aren’t spending what he is asking for. Just my opinion of course. 

Edited January 4 by skhoosier2

[cbp4iu]

5 minutes ago, skhoosier2 said:

Anyone have an idea of what the NIL budget is?  Would be hard to overspend at receiver ie Marsh when we have a lot of needs  plus likely need to give some raises to your current players to retain them. Don’t get me wrong I’d love to have Marsh but I get the feeling he’s wanting big payday and we likely aren’t spending what he is asking for. Just my opinion of course. 

I think some players would also take a discount to play for a contender and a good coach that will develop them. I think with that being said I bet the budget is whatever other top tier programs are at but also I see people buying in for the coach and development instead of money. 

[Brass Cannon]

15 minutes ago, skhoosier2 said:

Anyone have an idea of what the NIL budget is?  Would be hard to overspend at receiver ie Marsh when we have a lot of needs  plus likely need to give some raises to your current players to retain them. Don’t get me wrong I’d love to have Marsh but I get the feeling he’s wanting big payday and we likely aren’t spending what he is asking for. Just my opinion of course. 

The right player will have Dolson making phone calls 

[Iufan71]

Mark Cuban on line 1.......wants to know how much $$$ Coach Cig needs...

 

[HoosierReb01]

Sounds like the results of this weekend are going to make Hoosier fans very happy.

[JSHoosier]

Hoover, Richard, Awls, Gilliam, Long with Marsh and/or Livingston would be a great haul. If we could add Perich it'd be a dream.

[Jeff Flabjohns]

Would love one highly rated OL too 

[Pagoda]

8 hours ago, skhoosier2 said:

Anyone have an idea of what the NIL budget is?  Would be hard to overspend at receiver ie Marsh when we have a lot of needs  plus likely need to give some raises to your current players to retain them. Don’t get me wrong I’d love to have Marsh but I get the feeling he’s wanting big payday and we likely aren’t spending what he is asking for. Just my opinion of course. 

I've heard our NIL is up pretty nicely for 2026 vs. 2025.  The goal Cig has stated is be top 1/3 in the conference for roster budget, and while I can only guess because there is so little info out there, at this point I think that's probably true.  Which is amazing.

I've read each position has a budget and the staff sticks to that pretty closely.  Cig the CEO.  Even with a lot of NIL you've got to spend with discipline (and know when to stretch for someone).

As for Marsh and these other portallers -- who knows what happens.  I'd guess some want more than we can do like you said and some will sign.  We'll see.

The great thing is personally I don't have to worry -- I just assume the staff will figure it out just right.

[Pagoda]

8 hours ago, cbp4iu said:

I think some players would also take a discount to play for a contender and a good coach that will develop them. I think with that being said I bet the budget is whatever other top tier programs are at but also I see people buying in for the coach and development instead of money. 

I agree and I think this is true to some extent.  Programs that aren't doing well, rebuilding, and/or are in the middle of nowhere will need to pay more to entice kids to go there for obvious reasons.  IU is winning big, developing players (notably into pros, the big payday), and now providing significant exposure -- those are some serious benefits beyond monetary comp.  In many instances vs. other good programs we've probably got to be market, but I'm sure we'll sign some players without being the high bid.

The other key factor is retention.  Retained players are going to be cheaper than portallers.  Last year our retention was superb.

Just making up an example: if through retention and a compelling program offering, we're able to on average across the roster pay 5-10% less than market, then on a $25M+ roster that could free up $1.25-2.5M+, which a few more key contributors.  

I'm just speculating, but something like this happens when you get good...

[HoosierReb01]

18 minutes ago, Pagoda said:

I agree and I think this is true to some extent.  Programs that aren't doing well, rebuilding, and/or are in the middle of nowhere will need to pay more to entice kids to go there for obvious reasons.  IU is winning big, developing players (notably into pros, the big payday), and now providing significant exposure -- those are some serious benefits beyond monetary comp.  In many instances vs. other good programs we've probably got to be market, but I'm sure we'll sign some players without being the high bid.

The other key factor is retention.  Retained players are going to be cheaper than portallers.  Last year our retention was superb.

Just making up an example: if through retention and a compelling program offering, we're able to on average across the roster pay 5-10% less than market, then on a $25M+ roster that could free up $1.25-2.5M+, which a few more key contributors.  

I'm just speculating, but something like this happens when you get good...

Might be speculation, but I think you're pretty spot on. It's kind of like Grant Wilson coming here, he could have got a bit of a payday and been a starting QB, maybe not P2, but somewhere. He wanted to get into coaching, and thought coming to IU this year was a good step. I think there are some smart players who look at preparation for the NFL as more important than getting the absolute top dollar who are going to choose IU.

[Demo]

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[Hovadipo]

8 minutes ago, Home Jersey said:

Sweet. Wonder if this means no more spot for Koi Perich?

Have to replace Moore and Boykin for sure and potentially Ferrell. With Baldwin as the only obvious plug and play guy. 

[Demo]

11 minutes ago, Hovadipo said:

Have to replace Moore and Boykin for sure and potentially Ferrell. With Baldwin as the only obvious plug and play guy. 

Yup. You know this stuff miles better than I do but this one feels for all the world like a depth piece and if he’s playing 50 snaps something’s gone sideways.