Darian DeVries - New IUBB Head Coach

[Silat Player 1,715]

13 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

I wouldn't try to explain anything to anyone on here they don't deserve it. 

Neither of the stuff about Stevens is good. Either he:

1.) Didn't have any interest from the start and turned IU down right away. Or

2.) Strung IU along and reneged on a verbal agreement at the last minute, thus kind of screwing IU over.

Either way, can we please forget about this guy? He hasn't coached college basketball in forever. He had a great deal of college success with exactly one group of guys, and at a time when IU wasn't exactly recruiting the state very hard, so a couple of guys kind of fell into his lap. Who knows if he would/could ever replicate that?

We need to let the guy go for good. 

On to the Devries era...

[JPCIVOP 675]

5 minutes ago, AH1971 said:

Can’t believe we didn’t even get a “I’m still a Masshole” comment from Stevens. Lol

Weak

*Brad coming to this board to mean mug all the IU fans with the temerity to think he would condescend to coach college basketball again*

[Hoosierfan2017 24,410]

4 minutes ago, Certified Sunshine Pumper said:

spoil what exactly? 

The latest Brad Stevens creative writing exercise, lol. Assignment’s due by COB today, gotta hurry to get initial drafts out the door. 

[Kentuckysucks 4,317]

14 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

I wouldn't try to explain anything to anyone on here they don't deserve it. 

If Scott once again did rely on a "verbal" agreement with the Masshole then he is even dumber than I already thought.

I don't buy it though.  Brad was never an option imo.

[EasyEJay 684]

7 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

I wouldn't try to explain anything to anyone on here they don't deserve it. 

I appreciate the hell out of you guys man as a reformed peegs guy it made the last couple of weeks so much more fun to monitor and think about the idea of a someone like a Stevens who could potential take this program immediately back into he stratosphere nationally. Also helped this teacher make it through the last couple of days of school before spring break which can be maddening ! haha 

It definitely started to wear though I'm glad it came to an end when it did would love to know in some more details things that happened BUT understand if you don't want to/ can't share. 

ultimately I have no idea where the ceiling is with someone like DeVries I don't think anyone can claim too , but I do have a feeling and a WAY better one than I did with Archie or Woodson that we have solidly raised the floor of the program. Be interesting to see where we goes in terms of assistants that could play a big factor. Does Kory come with him knowing this is there any sort of issue there? Does he bring back Fife? Does he get Michael Lewis to leave BSU and come be a top assistant? I just cant see him bring Ostrom or Frazier with him and he knows he needs Indiana grassroots ties. 

Portal will also kick into full swing should be fun to discuss ! 

[Certified Sunshine Pumper 10,981]

5 minutes ago, BA47591 said:

Dolson definitely used the same criteria he used with the football hire. I'm not excited. I have a helluva chest cold though. 

wait what? You just contradicted yourself so hard. 

[sirhoosierlot 3,574]

1 minute ago, Silat Player said:

Neither of the stuff about Stevens is good. Either he:

1.) Didn't have any interest from the start and turned IU down right away. Or

2.) Strung IU along and reneged on a verbal agreement at the last minute, thus kind of screwing IU over.

Either way, can we please forget about this guy? He hasn't coached college basketball in forever. He had a great deal of college success with exactly one group of guys, and at a time when IU wasn't exactly recruiting the state very hard, so a couple of guys kind of fell into his lap. Who knows if he would/could ever replicate that?

We need to let the guy go for good. 

On to the Devries era...

Right all this does is make Brad Stevens look like an ******* lol which i don't think he is 

[IUCrazy2 2,807]

19 minutes ago, JPCIVOP said:

The last one he loved this much was the Archie hire; has me a little nervous...

Well I mean the only hire in-between those was Can't Get Over the Humpty Dumpty....and that was a head scratching Hail Mary of a hire if there ever was one.

And I am not a Goodman fan.

On another note, I don't think this fanbase is as "delusional" as the sports press likes to paint it.  Woodson was being a lazy @$$ in this job.  People around the state do watch this program and everyone knew Grampa didn't want to do any work outside the season and a couple weeks around portal time...and most of that work was just dragging a bag of money through the room and seeing who grabbed hold of it.  And he antagonize the fans to boot.  Archie did a crap job.  He missed the tournament at least 3 out of 4 years and was on the bubble in the COVID season that got canceled.  There aren't many programs or fanbases that have the support of an Indiana (or anything close to it) that wouldn't have had the same reaction.  We get a bad rap because our AD has made bad hires.  Period.

On a related note after watching the linked video up above, **** Tyler Hansbrough.  He doesn't like Indiana because the Pacers wasted a pick on his sorry @$$ and he sucked an entire bag of D while he was here.  And UNC is already not happy with their craptastic coach too.  So glass houses you powder blue ******.

[Rusty Shackleford 824]

1 minute ago, IvanRenkosillegitimatechild said:

I know people have a lot of bad feelings about the packline but with the portal I feel like D-Rock can recruit players/bring players with him who buy into that and he knows exactly what he wants. I feel with Archie he didn’t really have an identity with who he was recruiting except to recruit Indiana hard and that wasn’t necessarily smart when you run a specific defense.

He doesn't really run an Archie pack-line defense. There are some pack-line principles positioning wise but his players seem much more free to come out to their man and deny passes. I'm not an expert though so I'll defer to anyone who knows more.

[GP711 1,767]

5 minutes ago, moyemayhem said:

Honest question... Did you ever hear about DeVries during the search?  Sounds like we reached out pretty early according to the people on the West Virginia side (Bahamas for the more conspiracy minded, but February at the latest).  The search firm IU used was used by West Virginia last season to hire DeVries, so discrete communications would be easy.  Some of their reporters think the deal was verbally agreed to last week after they lost in their conference tournament.

Im sure he was vetted by the search firm or iu at some point, and you always have backups in case what happened happens. We all heard McCollum was in there but no i did not hear about DeVries until he started negotiating with Iowa, another reason i thought that was an agent ploy, which tbh i think it was but Iowa wouldn't budge. 

[Chris007 60,121]

7 minutes ago, HoosierAccipiter said:

They may be the loudest right now, but don’t let a handful of Turdgerons spoil it for the rest of us!  

I'm a little bitter about how some people who have been on here for years have treated me but I'm not going anywhere. I thought some of us were friends but that didn't end up being the case. But Dolson got someone he really wanted and don't believe anyone who says this was his 5th choice. DeVries was a name Scott liked since January just like McCollum

[Uspshoosier 52,955]

Bottom line people shot their shot on a free message and turned out to be wrong.   It’s over and IU has a new coach.   The why it didn’t happen is irrelevant and not important.  It’s done.   IU hired a sitting Power 5 coach.  The only other program that I can think of in the last couple years to hire a sitting Power 5 coach was Arkansas because the fanbase of Kentucky was running him out.  Looking forward to when the coaching search posters fade away and banners is back to the locals that actually want to be here posting about IU basketball.   In time most will be on board and we will have Summers to focus on high school recruiting.  

[HinnyHoosier 6,304]

2 minutes ago, JPCIVOP said:

I'm old enough to remember when Collin Hartman was telling anyone who would listen that Archie Miller was going to win a National Championship at Indiana.

I don't think we'll begin to have an idea of how this hire has gone until about a year from now.

I don't know the timing on when he made the comment but my guess is Colin and Doug are looking at it through fairly different lenses when it comes to experience. McDermott has been much further around the block now as a 10 year NBA vet, and he's also saying that after watching his former lead recruiter and assistant coach succeed consistently wherever he's been. Colin's support of Archie was probably more in the moment, relatively speaking. Who knows, I could just be an idiot. But I have a better feeling about DD than I did AM.

[sirhoosierlot 3,574]

The personality "issue" with Devries. Not a big schmoozer or media guy according to some. Maybe that's a good thing. I'd rather have somebody that just wants to do their job than be out and about trying to sell me something. 

[Chris007 60,121]

4 minutes ago, Silat Player said:

Neither of the stuff about Stevens is good. Either he:

1.) Didn't have any interest from the start and turned IU down right away. Or

2.) Strung IU along and reneged on a verbal agreement at the last minute, thus kind of screwing IU over.

Either way, can we please forget about this guy? He hasn't coached college basketball in forever. He had a great deal of college success with exactly one group of guys, and at a time when IU wasn't exactly recruiting the state very hard, so a couple of guys kind of fell into his lap. Who knows if he would/could ever replicate that?

We need to let the guy go for good. 

On to the Devries era...

Yeah, not really there was a plan all along and it all worked out exactly like it was supposed to. We need to let some posters go for good. ;-)

[12345Brad 495]

Like most, i thought IU would hire a bigger name.  I  studied McCollum like prepping for an SAT test, but there seems to be less out there with Devries. 
 

That being said, I trust Dolson - right or wrong.  

[Chris007 60,121]

4 minutes ago, Kentuckysucks said:

If Scott once again did rely on a "verbal" agreement with the Masshole then he is even dumber than I already thought.

I don't buy it though.  Brad was never an option imo.

That's what is great you have an opinion and we can decide if it stinks or not. We got one of our top guys. So we should be happy for some reason not sure why you're not. Wait I know why

[AH1971 2,624]

2 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

I'm a little bitter about how some people who have been on here for years have treated me but I'm not going anywhere. I thought some of us were friends but that didn't end up being the case. But Dolson got someone he really wanted and don't believe anyone who says this was his 5th choice. DeVries was a name Scott liked since January just like McCollum

It’s all in jest, you got duped…again…it happens.

[Silat Player 1,715]

2 minutes ago, GP711 said:

Im sure he was vetted by the search firm or iu at some point, and you always have backups in case what happened happens. We all heard McCollum was in there but no i did not hear about DeVries until he started negotiating with Iowa, another reason i thought that was an agent ploy, which tbh i think it was but Iowa wouldn't budge. 

If our search firm was the same one that WVU used year, that might help explain why the name was kept under wraps so easily too. They had already done their due diligence on Devries and had a file on him, so to speak. I mean, if he had already been vetted, then there was just the matter of IU interviewing and negotiating with him, which requires very few people. 

Easy to keep that quiet. 

[TadQueasy 2,183]

3 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

Bottom line people shot their shot on a free message and turned out to be wrong.   It’s over and IU has a new coach.   The why it didn’t happen is irrelevant and not important.  It’s done.   IU hired a sitting Power 5 coach.  The only other program that I can think of in the last couple years to hire a sitting Power 5 coach was Arkansas because the fanbase of Kentucky was running him out.  Looking forward to when the coaching search posters fade away and banners is back to the locals that actually want to be here posting about IU basketball.   In time most will be on board and we will have Summers to focus on high school recruiting.  

What is this "high school recruiting" that you speak of Mr. Usps?  Is this something new ;-)