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3 minutes ago, RaceToTheTop said:

They were critical to our success last year.  The problem was that there were other guys that were more critical to our failure.

Goode is a pretty high volume three point shooter who can hit 40%.  He is most definitely a good thing to have.  In 23-24 he was a 20 minute per game player on a team that won the BTT and went 29-9.  Not sure how we would 'be in trouble' if he played a part in the success next year.

another year like last year means we're in trouble. if our collection of players can't be better than Leal and Goode, it will be a struggle.

Posted
16 minutes ago, Napleshoosier said:

If DDV didn’t want them on the team there would be NO discussion.  Period! The end!

Has he weighed in? Haven't seen him post about either Leal or Goode... so we're left to speculate...

Posted
51 minutes ago, RaceToTheTop said:

They were critical to our success last year.  The problem was that there were other guys that were more critical to our failure.

Goode is a pretty high volume three point shooter who can hit 40%.  He is most definitely a good thing to have.  In 23-24 he was a 20 minute per game player on a team that won the BTT and went 29-9.  Not sure how we would 'be in trouble' if he played a part in the success next year.

Yea, I don’t get the dissatisfaction with playing time next year for Goode in particular. 
 

Also by most accounts we should’ve snuck into the tourney last year. Arguably if Woody stuck with the small ball lineup after Teneau that started Goode and played Leal more, we would’ve have.  
 

They are obviously both rotation players in the conference, and Goode in particular has proven he can be a rotation guy on a good team.  
 

Everybody has kind of set the bar for success at making the tourney next year.  That is in no way unachievable if two proven B1G level rotation players come back.  Ideally, the guys we brought in are better options but not guaranteed. 

Posted
5 minutes ago, str8baller said:

Yea, I don’t get the dissatisfaction with playing time next year for Goode in particular. 
 

Also by most accounts we should’ve snuck into the tourney last year. Arguably if Woody stuck with the small ball lineup after Teneau that started Goode and played Leal more, we would’ve have.  
 

They are obviously both rotation players in the conference, and Goode in particular has proven he can be a rotation guy on a good team.  
 

Everybody has kind of set the bar for success at making the tourney next year.  That is in no way unachievable if two proven B1G level rotation players come back.  Ideally, the guys we brought in are better options but not guaranteed. 

I'm fine with Good returning. He has more size and is a much better shooter than Leal (plus he hasn't been here since Archie)...I -- and many others -- just think it's time for Leal to move on for reasons already stated. 

Goode + a big >>>>> Goode + Leal

Posted

I am so very happy and optimistic about having a coach that knows college basketball.  He seems smart, has a plan, gets shooters and ballers that are willing to work.  That, plus, he is willing to do the work to build a team.

It is his first year.  And the cupboard was dry.  I am very interested in and concerned with the performance of the guards. 

But what do I know?  I've only loved IU basketball since the mid '60s.

 

Posted
1 hour ago, ebridges24 said:

If they come back and are critical to our success, we're in trouble.

“to our success”. I am not sure I follow, because if they are the reason, or a primary reason, we have success next year wouldn’t it be better to have them than not??

Or are you expecting a Michigan type of quick rebuild and a top 20 team and are using “success” sarcastically such that if they play a lot we are likely to be not successful? 

Posted
1 minute ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

Wish our finish was Luke Goode +Niko Bundalo.  If only.   Or Even Leo Curtis just in case. 

Curtis not being heavily recruited here is mind-boggling to me. I can't understand how DeVries recruits him to West Virginia but isn't pursuing him now with our lack of size, or why Curtis isn't more interested given that IU and DeVries/WVU were his second and third options after ASU. 

Posted
4 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

Very likely because Devries knows a whole bunch-o-stuff that we do not know. 

Could be. Or it could be his asking price. Or maybe the kid can do the math on two upperclassmen 5’s signed in front of him and doesn’t see the minutes he wants.  
 

Seems like a logical recruit but if he’s looking for backup type mins next year, IU is likely not offering that. 

Posted
28 minutes ago, 8bucks said:

“to our success”. I am not sure I follow, because if they are the reason, or a primary reason, we have success next year wouldn’t it be better to have them than not??

Or are you expecting a Michigan type of quick rebuild and a top 20 team and are using “success” sarcastically such that if they play a lot we are likely to be not successful? 

Pretty sure he means if they are critical to the success we won’t have success. 

Posted
1 hour ago, 8bucks said:

“to our success”. I am not sure I follow, because if they are the reason, or a primary reason, we have success next year wouldn’t it be better to have them than not??

Or are you expecting a Michigan type of quick rebuild and a top 20 team and are using “success” sarcastically such that if they play a lot we are likely to be not successful? 

Man, you just blew my mind!

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