Transfer Portal w IU Interest

[RaceToTheTop]

26 minutes ago, Deserthoozier said:

They (Louisville) are a serious bball program that is willing to do whatever it takes to win…now! Past, current and future transgressions are simply a calculated cost of doing business. 
 

Just WIN baby and no one talks about the prostitutes, bags of money, bribery, other sex scandals and all the rest. They know this, so go all in.  6 month reboot and they on! Also, they’ve got the reboot process down to a science since they’ve had to execute so many times.

Such a serious bball program that they hired a coach previously that got tricked by Woodson's zone and had a press conference called to announce Dusty May as their coach last year that they had to call off.

[str8baller]

1 minute ago, Uspshoosier said:

and majority of the time if it doesn’t involve the big names he always goes with the home teams 

That’s logical because teams without big budgets need to mine talent locally. But IU has, even under Woody, pulled kids from everywhere: West Coast, east Coast, Florida, midwest, etc… we have the budget and profile to be competitive. CDD should be competitive nationally. I take it as almost axiomatic that he will be.

 

I think we agree on everything else. 

[ebridges24]

20 minutes ago, BBTB said:

August 30 and now we have to hope CC  can get some players out of the portal because of the injury to the transfer from Michigan 

No way, the O lineman?

[JSHoosier]

31 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

And if IU has the year that WVU just had then no one will be happy this time next year. 

Oh some would be. No one should be but they would be.

I wouldn't.

[HoosierHoopster]

1 minute ago, str8baller said:

 I take it as almost axiomatic that he will be.

Props for use of axiomatic, lol. 

[pumpfake]

2 minutes ago, RaceToTheTop said:

Such a serious bball program that they hired a coach previously that got tricked by Woodson's zone and had a press conference called to announce Dusty May as their coach last year that they had to call off.

Well, they were serious enough to s-can a lousy coach after 2 seasons rather than 4.  Gotta give 'em that.

[go iu bb]

23 minutes ago, Scotty R said:

Maybe we need to realize that kids today doesn't look at IU like we do. These kids have only seen IU as a mediocre program that doesn't make the tournament very often. They also see the fans still having the same expectations like it was 1987 instead of actually where the program is.

Dude, you keep repeating this which simply isn't true. IU fan expectations aren't even the same as they were 25 years ago, much less almost 40 years ago. By the time Knight was fired, expectations had already started to drop but they were still high.

Today, people would be very happy with a string of years similar to the ones Knight had to end his time at IU: ranked every year, safely in the tournament, winning conference record, and finishing near the top of the conference. The early exits in the NCAAT were disappointing but at least they got there every year, usually without worry.

If it remained in that status, then people would get restless but the expectation out the gate isn't to be competing for national championships in year 1 like you make it seem.

What people really want to see are teams that consistently compete hard. Enough with long losing streaks every year and multiple blow out loses.

 

[Hoosierfan2017]

3 minutes ago, rayl456 said:

Why does he have to impress me…or you?  He’s two plus weeks into being the HC.

He doesn’t have to “impress” anyone, but he has to win games if he wants to keep his job, and a huge key to winning games is landing high caliber portal in the offseason - especially so when you don’t have any returning players. He doesn’t have a full staff yet and went after Dix and Conwell both but couldn’t land either of them. Like geez, I feel like I’m pretty uncharacteristically reasonable in my takes today but any concern with DD’s performance thus far is being met with giant backlash. It’s ok to admit that it’s been a shaky start. Plenty of time to get things moving in the right direction.  

[RaceToTheTop]

Just now, pumpfake said:

Well, they were serious enough to s-can a lousy coach after 2 seasons rather than 4.  Gotta give 'em that.

Kenny Payne was 12-52 after two seasons.  Woodson went to two tourneys.  Not a fair comparison.

[str8baller]

7 minutes ago, Goober said:

Coach isn’t wasting money, going for team players. Not just going for the highest bid for the first bull through the pen. I for one appreciate that.

You have to have a strategy and stick to it. I know a lot of college fans don’t watch the pros, but for those of us who do we are pretty familiar with salary caps and letting good players walk that are too expensive.  
 

If CDD isn’t good at that he will fail. If he is he will have success. At this point, I don’t even know how you would begin to assess that until he has a roster. I like Dix as a player, but he’s far from make or break. Hell, i like Conwell more, but if CDD thought he was too expensive then you have to stand firm and rely on your judgement.

[AH1971]

Just now, pumpfake said:

Well, they were serious enough to s-can a lousy coach after 2 seasons rather than 4.  Gotta give 'em that.

Kenny Payne's best year doesn't even compare to Woodson's worst year. Zero percent chance Louisville would have fired Woodson after his first two years in Bloomington. No program in the country would have. 

[Home Jersey]

15 minutes ago, AH1971 said:

No one should be impressed/unimpressed until actual games start. I mean, IU has been what, the offseason national champs the last 9-10 years running? God forbid we don't win it this year. 

This is tremendous personal growth AH! :) 

I see you learned your lesson from buying into Woodson’s offseason hype machine. 

I agree… could be a nice change of pace to win during the season instead of the offseason. Let’s see where things are at later this month. 

[Chris007]

Just now, JSHoosier said:

Oh some would be. No one should be but they would be.

I wouldn't.

I hope we're putting together a roster that an injury or two doesn't wreck the season. Since two of our commits have had injury issues in their careers. Sounds like that was a problem at WV last year too. 

[Hoosierfan2017]

16 minutes ago, Scotty R said:

Maybe we need to realize that kids today doesn't look at IU like we do. These kids have only seen IU as a mediocre program that doesn't make the tournament very often. They also see the fans still having the same expectations like it was 1987 instead of actually where the program is.

The elusive Scotty R double whammy! Both blame the fans and question why anyone would want to come to IU in the same post. 

[Chris007]

5 minutes ago, ebridges24 said:

No way, the O lineman?

WR

[HoosierHoopster]

8 minutes ago, rayl456 said:

Why does he have to impress me…or you?  He’s two plus weeks into being the HC.

Not that he does, but I'm fairly impressed by the assistant staff additions. He's put together a strong group including for recruiting. 

Waiting (impatiently, because I'm now living in the world of instant gratification) to see him land some big fish guards/wings in the portal (that fit), but he's off to a good start imo

 

[pumpfake]

1 minute ago, AH1971 said:

Kenny Payne's best year doesn't even compare to Woodson's worst year. Zero percent chance Louisville would have fired Woodson after his first two years in Bloomington. No program in the country would have. 

No other program would have hired Woodson in the first place ffs.

[RaceToTheTop]

1 minute ago, Chris007 said:

I hope we're putting together a roster that an injury or two doesn't wreck the season. Since two of our commits have had injury issues in their careers. Sounds like that was a problem at WV last year too. 

Agree, although even losing their best player to injury they won ten Big 12 games and by all rights should have been in the NCAA tournament.  

[AH1971]

6 minutes ago, Home Jersey said:

This is tremendous personal growth AH! :) 

I see you learned your lesson from buying into Woodson’s offseason hype machine. 

I agree… could be a nice change of pace to win during the season instead of the offseason. Let’s see where things are at later this month. 

Huh?

I've taken a back seat to every new hire since Knight. Goal for DeVries this year is to get a culture and system in place. Anything after that is gravy. I've been pretty consistent on that since January regardless of who IU was going to hire. There's nothing attractive about IU right now outside of money. And with revenue sharing being enacted this next athletic calendar year, a whole bunch of other teams just fell into some money. 

[AH1971]

2 minutes ago, pumpfake said:

No other program would have hired Woodson in the first place ffs.

Louisville hired Kenny Payne lol. You just tattle on yourself?