They “Retired” Coach Woodson Thread

[HinnyHoosier]

33 minutes ago, AKHoosier said:

Now watch Dusty poach one of Sisley or Mullins right from under us all while Woodson is telling us how he's doing his job.

It won't be from under us but at least he might pull from the turds in stinky WL.

[MikeRoberts]

I like Dusty but he is not a slam dunk. We will only know in the future if IU screwed the pooch yet again. We could have had Pitino, Calipari, Stevens, Pearl and the list goes on.

the BOT at IU has f’d us so many times and tbd if this is just another one. Not sure who the best fit is but it ain’t Woodson by a mile

[lillurk]

1 hour ago, Stuhoo said:

But next year we could be in the Final Four, or Woodson could be lousy and we could be welcoming Shrewsbury to IU. It’s incredibly hard to know who is the “right” choice until years after that choice is made.

And in my opinion anyone that is so completely sure of someone being the only right choice, has a case of tunnel vision.

Love Shrews and think in a year if IU needs a new guy he’ll be near the top of my wishlist as far as intersection of gettable, good, long-term, pleasant scheme, so on. (Some folks will not believe he’s great until he has multiple deep tournament runs  I will continue to say that the trick is to identify coaches BEFORE they do that, and it’s possible if you know what to look for etc.)

Still like May but aside from Beilein’s tenure — which was not without its bumps! — and Juwan’s first year with Beilein’s guys, their modern history is not some sparkling unbroken run.

Bball is always second fiddle, hockey’s season overlaps and is a big deal, people do NOT turn up when they’re middling or worse, hoops NIL has been poor there…Hope he succeeds (and loses to IU) but don’t think it’s some guarantee even though I think he’s great.

All of that means if he really wants to be at IU he can probably still be had at some point in the future. Yes UM has deep pockets but IU is clearly a better job in many ways. I wonder if he doesn’t have huge success if the bloom comes off the rose somewhat and then will there be some doubt he’s a home run for IU? Conversely if UM wins consistently they’ll of course be more inclined to pony up to keep him. Maybe you get a Roy/Kansas/UNC thing.

Or maybe you just hire Shrews and beat him.

[RoncalliHoosier]

11 hours ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

There will always be other good coaches in the conference. It’s only an issue if we don’t have one. 

That's exactly where we are. Fire Mediocre Mike Woodson.

[kottke]

18 minutes ago, RoncalliHoosier said:

That's exactly where we are. Fire Mediocre Mile Woodson.

I’m not sure who Mile Woodson is but if he’s anything like Mike then yes fire him too :-)!

[HoosierMatty]

No coaching hire is 100 percent guaranteed to succeed. I get that Dusty has more risk than others, but it really sucks if he does succeed at UM. Because if he does he will likely take in state recruits and kick our butts too. And there is no guarantee we can get him later if he succeeds there. And you will bet UM will give him a huge buyout.

 

[hoosierhoo]

3 hours ago, Stuhoo said:

But next year we could be in the Final Four, or Woodson could be lousy and we could be welcoming Shrewsbury to IU. It’s incredibly hard to know who is the “right” choice until years after that choice is made.

And in my opinion anyone that is so completely sure of someone being the only right choice, has a case of tunnel vision.

You misspelled First Four.

[cleeter]

With Mike Woodson next year, I’d bet that we miss the BTT


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[Trish]

Indiana has the second or third worst coach in the conference currently right? 

[southernindianahoosier2]

Man oh Man… it appears that Dusty had his choice of Michigan or Louisville… I said that I would be a fan wherever Dusty went, which will still be true, and I might watch some Michigan games this year. But man, this stings. 
 

Stings because this is like the 4th time this has happened as IU retained multiple coaches for too long and the candidate the fanbase wants goes elsewhere and will likely have success. 
 

[southernindianahoosier2]

I was in Vegas this weekend and sat at a table with 3 IU grads of 88.. me 2013…. They aren’t message board guys but they are in lock step with everything said on these boards. 
 

IU is in some serious doo doo…. 

[OKHOOSIER]

I agree that Dusty is somewhat of a risk, but I also think that opinion is another case of letting great get in the way of good. The reality of the situation is we let a native son who was a serious commodity on the market go elsewhere to keep a program “legend.” One HUGE difference is Dusty is fireable whereas Mike Woodson, apparently, is not. And herein lies the conundrum. Instead of taking a chance on a guy we can move on from if he fails, we are keeping someone we can’t. I’ve moved on to acceptance, and that means I am going to hope Woody doesn’t crater the program for being gifted an ego year. Despite common sense pointing in that direction. 

[JSHoosier]

6 hours ago, AKHoosier said:

Now watch Dusty poach one of Sisley or Mullins right from under us all while Woodson is telling us how he's doing his job.

If it makes you feel better, to land them Woodson would probably have to be on the road recruiting them first; you know the same Woodson that had to be told to go to sectionals. So UM won't poach them from under IU.

[coonhounds]

Iu doing iu things lol. Let's hope dusty fails! I am not as kind as some of you. If he does awesome I will certainly be leading the charge of toxic posts towards are administration and booing them lol

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[coonhounds]

I do believe weather or not you liked the dusty hire or you thought it was a risk the michigan hire proves he was a risk worth taking. Michigan is serious about basketball and football and wouldn't hire someone who they believed wouldn't be good imo

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[RaceToTheTop]

27 minutes ago, coonhounds said:

I do believe weather or not you liked the dusty hire or you thought it was a risk the michigan hire proves he was a risk worth taking. Michigan is serious about basketball and football and wouldn't hire someone who they believed wouldn't be good imo

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Michigan is serious about basketball?  They kept a coach who was a former player after he fought an opposing coach and his own strength and conditioning coach.  

[maharkn]

They get may and IU will get Kenny Payne on staff , woodys plan falling into place. Bench full of losers

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[IU Prof]

23 hours ago, Mopladysman said:

What is it after next year?

I think it's still around $15 million, if I recall correctly, unless ISU's athletic director leaves.

But Otzelberger is also married to a legendary Iowa State women's player, so he may not be getable. 

[AKHoosier]

1 hour ago, coonhounds said:

I do believe weather or not you liked the dusty hire or you thought it was a risk the michigan hire proves he was a risk worth taking. Michigan is serious about basketball and football and wouldn't hire someone who they believed wouldn't be good imo

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The admin at IU allegedly believes Dusty isn't good enough to be the coach here.

Well, now he's at Michigan, a program that has been head and shoulders above ours the last 20 years. So he's good enough for them.

Louisville also made a run at him, and they've been better than us too. 

But we get Mike Woodson. He's good enough for IU.

You can't make this stuff up.

[bigrod]

1 minute ago, AKHoosier said:

The admin at IU allegedly believes Dusty isn't good enough to be the coach here.

Well, now he's at Michigan, a program that has been head and shoulders above ours the last 20 years. So he's good enough for them.

Louisville also made a run at him, and they've been better than us too. 

But we get Mike Woodson. He's good enough for IU.

You can't make this stuff up.

Frustrating that we are so scared to make a wrong hire, that yet again, we sit on the sidelines and watch everyone else make power moves. I have no idea if May will work in Michigan, but I can tell you that our solution to keep going with a guy who has an outdated philosophy, unfathomable ego, and no recruits does not have a high likelihood of succeeding. To confidently think we are going to put together a team that will be any better than what we saw this year is ludicrous.

We are willing to sacrifice yet another year, just to make damn sure the program has been totally flushed down the drain because that should make it really appealing to the great coach we are going to hire next year. I mean, you can't make this **** up!