They “Retired” Coach Woodson Thread

[southsidehoosier]

Looks like everyone is talking about this 

 

[MrBBall]

1 minute ago, AZ Hoosier said:

In the Gary Parrish video (above) they talked about May having turned down the Louisville job due to the "fishbowl" effect and mentioned that May might have passed on IU for the same reason... I know he's an alum, and he said that he wanted to coach here... but too much pressure? The inference was that Michigan was a football school, so less pressure... 

Not sure that I agree with them, but it's an interesting take on the situation. And I'd still take him in a heartbeat.

Gary knows Jack and **** about IU basketball. I wouldn’t give him air. 

[TTT]

Provided things are going well and money is there…Why would Bruce Pearl or anyone even want to consider a dumpster fire like IU unless it’s earlier in career and it’s a move upwards?  Exception: B.S. because well he is B.S. lol Brad Stevens….and to a lesser degree Dusty May.
 IU men’s basketball first needs a no nonsense integrity approach and culture brought back to program before winning one game in the future (next season).  Either one of these guys would do that with Stevens overall experience’s unsurpassed by anyone.  And the IU fanbase would be gracious giving either some grace enough for correction course.  (Brad Stevens would not be intimidated at all).

Other than those two a no nonsense high integrity culture first coach followed by winning.  Most importantly this is the IU men’s basketball hire of the 21st century.

[Hoosier DaDa]

1 hour ago, KathywithaC said:

I came here to discuss the process and mindset within the University on matters such as this, and the “Fire Woodson” crowd didn’t care for that. The mistake I made was suggesting their reactions were emotional, which elicited an extremely emotional response from the unemotional and rational posters whom I called “emotional”.

Interpreter is there a interpreter in the house?? I know there is a Doctor but we need a interpreter. 

[hoosierbannerd]

5 minutes ago, Motley's said:

If something like that was true, and I'm highly skeptical, and if QB knew that would actually violate his fiduciary duty to the University as Board Chair. 

Obviously I don't know if it's true.. just a theory.. but if Kathy is some sort of insider and she hinted at it in a response post.. it just makes me wonder if there's any validity..

[8bucks]

6 minutes ago, MikeRoberts said:

If that is truly her job/mission, she should be fired immediately because all she has done is stoke the flames 

Could be a troll too.  She just comes when we are most feisty and his seat is scorching,  

[AZ Hoosier]

55 minutes ago, TadQueasy said:

The buyout situation with his contract is really intriguing in all of this.  If he is not at least thinking about another job there is no reason to want that buy out so low.  And you can darn bet the school did not want that buy out that low for year 1.   We are all jumping back on this crazy coach carousel again!   Away we go! 

We've been here before. It's our "comfort place". 

[Kentuckysucks]

2 minutes ago, 8bucks said:

Could be a troll too.  She just comes when we are most feisty and his seat is scorching,  

A troll or another Tyme who is being bankrolled by Woody or Buckner.

[Golfman25]

48 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

I think were past that point. The number has never been a problem. It's just about getting everyone in his family on board

Happy wife, happy life.  :) 

[Chris007]

8 minutes ago, Hoosier DaDa said:

$hit need to change my name I party in the Villas too :) 

Half the board might be named that

[Hornsby]

The "Vortex of Suck".
Interesting stats from this video:

• IU has not finished in the B1G ahead of Purdue since 2016.
• IU has not finished in the top 25 KenPom since 2016.
• Woodson spent "$5M in the portal and are playing like it's 1982"... though I believe the number is closer to $6M.
• IU hasn't reached the Elite 8 since 2002.

Probably would not be ay worse if he spent 1 million.

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[AZ Hoosier]

55 minutes ago, TheWatShot said:

How was he supposed to know Woodson would royally crap the bed like this? For all he knew, Woodson could have kept buying talent and managing to not suck until he turned 70. As a coach, you can only wait around on your dream job for so long, and sometimes, it just never materializes. 

It's Woodson, the laziest and most entitled man on the planet. How could May NOT know that?

[AZ Hoosier]

36 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

So, dad can watch Brad coach IU and the daughter can play soccer at IU... works for me...

[TTT]

The QB club…talking to Woodson for probably about a half hour should tell most people that know anything and maybe another hour for a little research is what you have and that is a lack of ability, knowledge and intellect to be a head coach for IU men’s basketball….when he interviewed for the job.

[Hoosier DaDa]

1 hour ago, AH1971 said:

The concerns with guys like May and McCollum have very little to do with X's and O's. 

So does this mean you onboard since you are talking about coaching candidates?  Or is Woody still going to turn this around?

[Silat Player]

1 hour ago, OKHOOSIER said:

Today is getting weird in here because I definitely agree with you here lol. I’ll probably get skewered for this take but…..

While I do think it would be a slam dunk hire and would be thrilled, I do think there are some questions with BS. He hasn’t coached college in a decade and hasn’t coached at all in a minute. BS isn’t the grand slam home run he would have been after Crean anymore, more like a two run bomb with the potential to be a grand slam. Forgive me for my extended analogy lol

Completely agree.

[Golfman25]

18 minutes ago, AZ Hoosier said:

In the Gary Parrish video (above) they talked about May having turned down the Louisville job due to the "fishbowl" effect and mentioned that May might have passed on IU for the same reason... I know he's an alum, and he said that he wanted to coach here... but too much pressure? The inference was that Michigan was a football school, so less pressure... 

Not sure that I agree with them, but it's an interesting take on the situation. And I'd still take him in a heartbeat.

I am so sick of "the high expectations" and the "fans are the problem" bull crap. 

People act like it's rocket science.  It isn't.  Successful coaches have a handful of characteristics you can model.  Successful programs have the same.  Create a profile and follow it.  

The goals and expectations are simple -- it's a numbers game.  The more you make the tournament, the better your chances to advance.  So get yourself into the tournament as much as possible.  For the BIG10 that means what, top 7 or 8.  It's bonus if you're competing top 3 for the championship every few years.  But you have to get to the tourney.  Once you're in the tourney, you'll win some, you'll lose some.  Win 2 games and you're in the sweet 16.  1 more and you're "elite."  From there anything can happen.  You do it enough times with a level of consistency, the odds are in your favor to make the final 4 and beyond.  If you're not stumbling, bumbling, idiot as a coach you can get this done.  Heck, even Tom Crean was doing it -- just couldn't get over that hump.   :) 

[IndianaSconnie90]

1 hour ago, KathywithaC said:

So why did he publicly dismiss his interest in IU and any possibility that he’d take the job? Why not say “They made an incredibly generous offer and I love it there, but our family decided that this is the place for us”? Instead, we got the “Masshole” soliloquy, which was dismissive to both IU and IU fans.

I've been wholeheartedly unimpressed with your thoughts regarding Woodson. In fact, if those that you know within the administration share your thought process then I see where the problem is. 

First off, firing Woodson mid season, at this point, is anything but an "emotional/knee jerk reaction" as you put it. We're so beyond a "knee jerk" reaction from a time standpoint alone that it's humorous you even offered that up. We've seen 4 years of the same garbage/inability to coach at this level from this guy on top of the fact that he was wildly unqualified to hold a collegiate coaching position to begin with. His grandpa aura is a major turnoff for alot of recruits and his arrogance is the "turd in the punch bowl" for the fans witnessing his coaching shortcomings. 

Secondly, you labor under the misconception that fans want him gone because we think an interim will bring better results on the court. That couldn't be further from the truth. Nobody on that staff could be trusted to lift this roster into a winner, however, nobody on that staff has developed into the wart on this fanbase's @$$ like Woodson. Maybe Hill but that's only by association and the fact that he appears to be sleeping through this misery. This fanbase could take damn near anybody else's face at those press conferences and would be perfectly fine with a washed season at this point. Nobody is asking for CC or Hulls or Walsh to take over because they expect better results. They'll take anybody as long as it isn't Woodson just to get him off that sideline.

Finally, I don't care what the process "is". The process needs to think about changing and changing quickly. The optics are far worse if they keep him for the season and this dumpsterfire continues. If those in the administration are using terms/phrases like "knee jerk", "emotional reaction", or "it's not going to gain us immediately better results", then they need to grow a pair or leave. 

[AH1971]

13 minutes ago, Hoosier DaDa said:

So does this mean you onboard since you are talking about coaching candidates?  Or is Woody still going to turn this around?

I’ve already answered that, but yes time to move.

[VFury]

35 minutes ago, southsidehoosier said:

Looks like everyone is talking about this 

 

Can't watch now, who did they say?