They “Retired” Coach Woodson Thread

[Artie86]

1 hour ago, AH1971 said:

We had 600 pages devoted to Bruce Pearl last year who was also never going to coach at IU.

…this guys just doesn’t get it! lol SMH

[str8baller]

45 minutes ago, Dave from Dayton said:

RMK...under the bus.

You could easily argue that without IU, RMK ends up one of those mercurial genius coaches that eventually overcomes his flaws to scratch out a singular title. 
 

But at IU with its crazed love of basketball and fertile recruiting grounds his flaws weren’t only looked past but often celebrated. He became larger than life and a legend of the sport. At one point he wielded enough populari-type power the Gov refused to extradite him after he “allegedly” punched a cop.  

 

We’re a long way from then, but that’s the type of upside the job possesses. 

[AH1971]

4 minutes ago, monskisprodigy said:

@AH1971

You have maybe posted this, but I likely missed it in the billions pages. 

If you don't think Stevens, May, Pearl are realistic, what is your list of candidates you would like to see / that you think would have interest?

Without a blessing for Beard or Wade (who would both take the job by the way), TJ Otz is my first call without question. Likely a no but I can afford to be turned down once. Start striking out on guys like Stevens, May, Pearl, you’re going to get an influx of calls from agents you’ve never heard from before and you’re going to be taken for a long, hard ride.

From there I kick the tires on Mick Cronin. Mick has publicly called into question UCLA’s NIL and for the right job geographically, I think he bolts. Really surprised he didn’t end up at Louisville last cycle. Realistically, he’d be one of the best candidates without any serious baggage you could hope to hire.

Strike out on those two and then I’ve probably shown my hand and the chances of getting a P4 guy that has shown some success really dwindles from there.

If I’m looking at guys at smaller conferences, Chris Mack and Pitino Jr are probably your best bets.

[AH1971]

24 minutes ago, wirenuts said:

You didn't find Steven's masshole interview to be just even a little suspicious the last go around?

If he hadn't talked to IU why would he talk up the IU job, and then pull a complete 180?

This is just my opinion, but there has to be at least a little smoke, and I have to think that they have called him, and AD in the state of Indiana may have called him. Why wouldn't they?

I’m sure Dolson has called him.

[Class of '66 Old Fart]

@IUHAHN81

I guess I'm not a very good Ichthyologist but your new profile pic looks more like a sock puppet to me.   lol

[str8baller]

8 minutes ago, AH1971 said:

TJ Otz is my first call without question.

Isn’t his buyout like $15-20mil? If so, he’s one of the few who are less likely than Stevens. How’s that for irony?

[hoosierbannerd]

Was earlier texting with a family member who was at Depauw with BS.. he confirmed last go around that coming to IU was one to three against...Brad being the 1.. so I don't feel it's unreasonable as many are saying this time for it to happen...

[AZ Hoosier]

6 minutes ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

@IUHAHN81

I guess I'm not a very good Ichthyologist but your new profile pic looks more like a sock puppet to me.   lol

ahhh, the beloved beluga whale.

[Chris007]

3 minutes ago, str8baller said:

Isn’t his buyout like $15-20mil? If so, he’s one of the few who are less likely than Stevens. How’s that for irony?

Sounds like he does his research as about as well as Quinn Buckner

[Chris007]

3 minutes ago, hoosierbannerd said:

Was earlier texting with a family member who was at Depauw with BS.. he confirmed last go around that coming to IU was one to three against...Brad being the 1.. so I don't feel it's unreasonable as many are saying this time for it to happen...

Wonder if they have voted this time. If they have I'm guessing it's 3-0 or at the very least 2-1

[AH1971]

5 minutes ago, str8baller said:

Isn’t his buyout like $15-20mil? If so, he’s one of the few who are less likely than Stevens. How’s that for irony?

Something like that. Would still cost a fraction of the salary Stevens demands.

[Mopladysman]

1 minute ago, Chris007 said:

Wonder if they have voted this time. If they have I'm guessing it's 3-0 or at the very least 2-1

Let’s vote after Ferguson sends them out of the room. 

[AZ Hoosier]

8 minutes ago, str8baller said:

Isn’t his buyout like $15-20mil? If so, he’s one of the few who are less likely than Stevens. How’s that for irony?

The biggest issues are two-fold... one, his wife is an alum and played women's basketball at Iowa State; and two, they're both locked in at Ames. It would take a pretty big crowbar to pry them away... and then there's the big buyout...

But with that said, I've been a big fan of TJ and have mentioned his name several times over the course of the epically failed Woodson era. I just see the deck stacked against a move to Bloomington.

[AH1971]

7 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

Sounds like he does his research as about as well as Quinn Buckner

Otz- $15-20 million buyout + 6 yr $40mil roughly ~$55-60mil all-in

Stevens—already turned down 7 yr/$70 mil

I’m not a math guy but….

[Chris007]

1 minute ago, AH1971 said:

Otz- $15-20 million buyout + 6 yr $40mil roughly ~$55-60mil all-in

Stevens—already turned down 7 yr/$70 mil

I’m not math guy but….

Yeah, but we are talking two Sweet 16s vs. two NC games and an NBA championship. I'm OK paying a little more for that, especially when it's not IU's money

[IUHAHN81]

14 minutes ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

@IUHAHN81

I guess I'm not a very good Ichthyologist but your new profile pic looks more like a sock puppet to me.   lol

LMAO!!! I had to go with something a little off center! If a sock puppet is what it brings to mind, then I did my job! Haha! 

[wirenuts]

1 minute ago, Chris007 said:

Yeah, but we are talking two Sweet 16s vs. two NC games and an NBA championship. I'm OK paying a little more for that, especially when it's not IU's money

I would have to assume IU would be ok paying for either one currently lol

[Hoosierfanyuh]

Who cares how much we pay if it isn’t your money? 

[JSHoosier]

9 minutes ago, Mopladysman said:

Let’s vote after Ferguson sends them out of the room. 

Leave Ferguson out completely, so he doesn't tick anyone else off.

[Stuhoo]

23 minutes ago, AH1971 said:

Without a blessing for Beard or Wade (who would both take the job by the way), TJ Otz is my first call without question. Likely a no but I can afford to be turned down once. Start striking out on guys like Stevens, May, Pearl, you’re going to get an influx of calls from agents you’ve never heard from before and you’re going to be taken for a long, hard ride.

From there I kick the tires on Mick Cronin. Mick has publicly called into question UCLA’s NIL and for the right job geographically, I think he bolts. Really surprised he didn’t end up at Louisville last cycle. Realistically, he’d be one of the best candidates without any serious baggage you could hope to hire.

Strike out on those two and then I’ve probably shown my hand and the chances of getting a P4 guy that has shown some success really dwindles from there.

If I’m looking at guys at smaller conferences, Chris Mack and Pitino Jr are probably your best bets.

Other than Chris Mack, I endorse this post. As much as neither would win the press conference, both Cronin and Pitino Jr. would win at a rate that IUBB hasn’t witnessed in 20+ years.

And while Otz would be expensive, he’d be every bit the grand slam home run that Stevens would be.