They “Retired” Coach Woodson Thread

[IUHoosier5]

Your Indiana Hoosiers can now be “The Rolling Pearls” and “The Smoking Cigs.” Need I say more? Do it!

[Chris007]

1 minute ago, tyappleg said:

If the change to a million a year allows Dolson to go around the BOT for the buyout, that would be an absolute masterclass by Dolson. 

Dolson walking around Assembly Hall like this

[Chris007]

1 minute ago, 68Hoosier said:

I'm in the same boat.  What does he have to gain other than keeping his friend on staff.  Conspiracy side, maybe they are trying to stick it to the admin and university for firing Knight. 

I think he's stuck on Archie got 4, so his buddy has to get 4 also. 

[BlueDevil]

Just now, Chris007 said:

I think he's stuck on Archie got 4, so his buddy has to get 4 also. 

Unfortunately waiting for the inevitable race card to be played 

[mdiu28]

Just now, Chris007 said:

I think he's stuck on Archie got 4, so his buddy has to get 4 also. 

If that's really his rationale, Buckner needs to go too. He has no idea what he's doing. 

[Hornsby]

I think he's stuck on Archie got 4, so his buddy has to get 4 also. 

Quinn will forever be known as the guy who ruined the program when we had pearl locked up if he gets his way. Quite the legacy.

 

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[Rico]

4 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

I think he's stuck on Archie got 4, so his buddy has to get 4 also. 

[Home Jersey]

Trilly "can't say with certainty" that anyone would stay if CMW is here next year. 

They can't bring him back... can they?

[kottke]

7 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

I think he's stuck on Archie got 4, so his buddy has to get 4 also. 

Which makes zero sense. Archie, though he obviously sucked, was peaking (for him), in year 3. Woodson's year 3 team resembles my toilet the morning after White Castle.

[Shooter]

21 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

I would think that we'd have a better chance of Mgbako and Tahaad Pettiford than McNeeley. 

 

I'd take any of the above. I'm just saying, Pearl would not necessarily be coming in to a rebuild - he could be competitive from day one

[HoosierTownie]

1 hour ago, AZ Hoosier said:

Are you saying that we aren't there yet?

good point

 

[AZ Hoosier]

18 minutes ago, Home Jersey said:

This is an interesting point and something I hadn't really considered. Not sure how much BP is tuned into the situation but I'd imagine the back channel conversations have obviously made him aware that political factors are at play and we may need to get a little messy with the media to make it happen. The fact Bruce hasn't said publicly "it's not happening" yet is interesting. Has to make you wonder if part of why BP would be on board is now he can see IU has an athletic director who isn't trying to shoot themself in the foot and they could work together. If they do pull this off, my excitement will be off the charts. I'd also be excited for Dusty. At this rate, making a change is the only way 99% of the people will feel any excitement for IUBB... not just next year, but for a very long time.

The question that keeps gnawing at me is "why would Bruce Pearl want to put up with Buckner and his shenanigans?" On a lot of levels it doesn't make sense... I hope it's all true and that it all comes to pass despite Buckner's efforts to stop it... but why would anyone walk in to such a toxic situation with their eyes wide open? Serious question...

[Henryville Hoosier]

7 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

I think he's stuck on Archie got 4, so his buddy has to get 4 also. 

Archie didn’t have Bruce Pearl possibly taking over. 

[8bucks]

7 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

I think he's stuck on Archie got 4, so his buddy has to get 4 also. 

Is this a case where Buckner has final say or can the other trustees can trump him?  Could Whitten pull rank?

[Kentuckysucks]

8 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

I think he's stuck on Archie got 4, so his buddy has to get 4 also. 

Archie didn't have NIL or the portal nor did he inherit Trayce Jackson Davis.  Surely Quinn knows that?

[Chris007]

1 minute ago, 8bucks said:

Is this a case where Buckner has final say or can the other trustees can trump him?  Could Whitten pull rank?

We're not sure. I've heard it both ways

[rcbowla]

I have no respect for either of them anymore. If I wanna watch old tapes of champion games I will watch 1987 and 2002.

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You do know Woodson wasn't on '81 team right?

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[BleedCubbieBlue]

10 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

I was told he does because it involves a buyout. But also read from @BleedCubbieBlue that since it's only a million a year we might not need the BoT approval

The board gets its power through its delegation of authority, the President has the rest of the power. The delegation dealing with coaches is as follows:

Approval of salary, increases, performance bonuses, or other forms of compensation for the President and those head coaches making more than a dollar amount designated annually in writing by the Trustees to the President;

Presumably the salary for Woodson has already been approved. Since the buyout figure for this year would actually be less than the salary, I don't think that it would require board approval. With all of that said, Bruce Pearl's buyout and salary would also not be approved. I think this may be Dolson's nuclear option. He fires Woodson and dares the board to not allow him to hire another coach.

[Hornsby]

You do know Woodson wasn't on '81 team right?

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I 100% know he wasn't on that team but he played with those guys for several years and they are his biggest supporters.

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[AZ Hoosier]

8 minutes ago, Home Jersey said:

Trilly "can't say with certainty" that anyone would stay if CMW is here next year. 

They can't bring him back... can they?

Would Buckner burn it down to make his point? Seems beyond idiotic... never mind, I just answered my own question.