Fire Coach Woodson Thread

[Chris007 43,625]

8 minutes ago, Henryville Hoosier said:

SIAP

For some reason this still makes me mad. 

[Kentuckysucks 2,207]

1 minute ago, mdiu28 said:

Too many negative memories still around with with Archie so I wouldn't be thrilled with a May hire. Feels like Archie 2.0 with a nice IU connection. 

But hell yeah, I'd take him over Woody. 

He's better than Woody.  That's the most obvious statement in the world.  But if you hire Dusty May you absolutely have to guarantee somehow that his first 2 years are a big success.  If that's an insane amount of NIL money to buy him a top 10 roster so be it.  He will not have anywhere near the leash Pearl would have with the fans.  Most would be disappointed and you'd have half the fan base rooting for loses to speed up the firing process before he's coached a single game.  Sucks but it is what it is.  He can succeed but the first 2 years will determine everything.

Everyone wants Pearl.

[Class of '66 Old Fart 84,150]

Just now, Chris007 said:

For some reason this still makes me mad. 

That your unvetted or untrusted?   lol

[mdiu28 1,761]

3 minutes ago, Hornsby said:

Probably as good as we can do iu is never going to hire a pearl or Drew. You know text messages

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I want so bad to believe our admin isn't that incompetent but, well, history tells me they are. 

So, you're probably right. 

[OldBuddy67 252]

Dakich said he hasn't heard anything specifically but there is smoke and usually means at least a little fire on Woodson situation.

[Hoosierfan2017 21,066]

May would be better than bringing Woodson back, but I think it’s far more likely that we’d all be posting in a “Fire Dusty May” thread 3 years from now than it is that we’d be back where we want the IU program to be. Bruce Pearl would win immediately. This program needs someone who can win instantly. I have no interest in another rebuild. 

[RaceToTheTop 25,206]

4 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

For some reason this still makes me mad. 

One thing I will say that in a less informational age that we wouldn’t have any knowledge/suggestion to any of this.

[IndyHoops 461]

30 minutes ago, Kentuckysucks said:

I'd hire Collins over May.  Just a much safer hire imo.  I can totally see Dusty being bust.  Could be great.  It's really a coin flip.

  

Man, absolutely don’t get the Collins love.

11 years at Northwestern and finished higher than 10th in the Big Ten 3 times and made NCAA 3 times (counting this year)

[LIHoosier 25,981]

14 minutes ago, Demo said:

I love this just for the dude dropping Ron Hunter in here. Love that guy. 

I'd rather have Ron Hunter's stool next year...just the stool.

[HoosierCoop 3,901]

After two hours and totally not paying attention to two virtual meetings, I am now caught up.

Sheesh!

Ok, so let's switch to May as the current baton holder.

1.  Does he have the immediate pull with current players to keep them?

2.  Does he have enough pull to keep McNeely?

3.  If not 1 and 2, does he have enough pull to get the right players from the portal?

4.  Does he jump in with our 2025 recruits and bring in a big class?

FWIW, I am pro-May and pro-Pearl.

This could be on another thread but I thought I throw this is as a quick poll.

[Class of '66 Old Fart 84,150]

Whoever the new coach is and I'm assuming there will be a new coach, he needs to hit the ground running every bit as hard as Coach Cig did.  Current players he wants to keep; convince them to stay.  Convince Liam to stay.   Lock in some solid portal talent for 24-25.  Get some quality early '25 commitments.  And we'll need to recognize the new coach's idea of what he wants his 25-26 roster and future rosters to look like may not include some targets that get discussed with great frequency on btb.  

[Chris007 43,625]

5 minutes ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

That your unvetted or untrusted?   lol

Well for one someone took a screenshot of what I posted here and posted it on Trilly Discord. Someone I don't know. Friends on here asked if they could DM it to Trilly which I said of course. 

Then it ends up in a tweet from someone I definitely don't know. It's just fun and games. 

 

[Artie86 1,879]

1 hour ago, Tom White said:

It was Ayrway. As in a division of L S Ayres.

You are right, I forgot about the spelling.....lol

[Certified Sunshine Pumper 8,947]

1 minute ago, Artie86 said:

You are right, I forgot about the spelling.....lol

wait.. is that.... Columbus? lol

[Hornsby 1,684]

Knowing iu will never hire a proven big name the the big positive with may is he sounds very connected in indiana. So he can probably get players Woodson has zero interest in cause they aren't 5 stars.

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[Certified Sunshine Pumper 8,947]

Just now, Hornsby said:

Knowing iu will never hire a proven big name the the big positive with may is he sounds very connected in indiana. So he can probably get players Woodson has zero interest in cause they aren't 5 stars.

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Or just understand how to team build lol 

He has 3-4 starters that would HELP us 

[QuinnB(BOT)(Perfectin76) 136]

1 hour ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

Coaching Changes @CoachingChanges

Sticking with #IUBB, an unvetted and therefore for the time being untrusted source tells us that Quinn Buckner behind closed doors is not defending Mike Woodson as boisterously as he had been. Not against him, but apparently less for him. I was 95/5 Woody stays. Now I’m 50/50.

This is news to me, partner.  

Edited March 6 by QuinnB(BOT)(Perfectin76)

[AH1971 1,448]

1 hour ago, SamIam said:

I do think we all need to take a deep breath, it is quite unlikely that someone on the BoT is wasting their day posting here like us haha 

Credit to Kathywithac for making us cool it a little. We have a habit of making bogeymen out of some of the decision makers. Dolson, Whitten, Buckner etc are all very competent people and great stewards of the University. The fans are upset, true, but there are other stakeholders to consider. When the time comes, QB will listen to facts. I'm sure he believes in his friend/believes he can get it done, who wouldn't support their friend? But we have to understand that these people are running a University first.  They will not make any decision rashly. 

Regarding May, I do think he is an easier sell. A lot of fans are not super comfortable with Pearl's past, and if IU is his dream job it still would be after one more year of Woody. If it's Pearl, the only thing that will be different a year from now is that both BP and MW's buyouts will be diminished by 1yr.  Dusty, however, stands to have a much, much higher buyout next year. And if he succeeds, you may have to live with him at a conference rival for the next few decades. If you think he's the guy, the time is now. 

Happy to continue arguing about Dusty's record with anyone. I've watched a TON of FAU since he was hired and I am confident that he will succeed. But I understand those of you who want a P5 coach. At the end of the day it comes down to this: if we can get BP or DM we should move now to save the '25 class while the damage is minimal. I'm good with whoever the easier sell is to make this move happen. 

Getting Dusty May because Bruce Pearl said no is one thing, if it comes out that Bruce Pearl legitimately wanted the job and IU told him no and hired Dusty May instead.....multiple people should be out of a job and college athletics forever. 

[Artie86 1,879]

2 minutes ago, btownqb said:

wait.. is that.... Columbus? lol

I thought it was too, but it is in West Lafayette

[AKHoosier 6,759]

1 hour ago, Stuhoo said:

A lot of the "best" choice is about fit, potential, energy, fit, sustained success at a P5 program, longevity, and fit.

Did I say "fit" three times? That's because it is the far and away most important factor.

Therefore, the best choice (with an understanding that no one is a perfect choice) is; 

1) Dusty May

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2) Bruce Pearl

This is where I am.

As exciting and intriguing the Bruce Pearl possibility is, Dusty just makes more sense to me.

I feel like Dusty May would lock up Sisley and Mullins before the leaves start changing colors this fall.