Hovadipo Posted November 29, 2022 Posted November 29, 2022 15 minutes ago, Lebowski said: I'd be shocked if Allen leaves for Liberty. And dumbfounded if Liberty offered the job to Allen. Yeah, nothing about that makes sense. Liberty could do much better and he has no reason to move to Virginia, though you could argue the Liberty job is only worse in the sense of the level they play at. If USF or FAU come calling? Sure. Quote
IUFootballHappyHappyJoyJoy Posted November 29, 2022 Posted November 29, 2022 1 minute ago, Hovadipo said: Yeah, nothing about that makes sense. Liberty could do much better and he has no reason to move to Virginia, though you could argue the Liberty job is only worse in the sense of the level they play at. If USF or FAU come calling? Sure. Conference USA is, depending on your perspective, the worst or the second worst conference in the country (#MACtion), and it just looks like a bunch of unwanted schools had to band together because either they don't care about athletics (Florida International, UTEP), they pissed off the wrong people (Louisiana Tech), or are just toxic (Liberty). Quote
Hovadipo Posted November 29, 2022 Posted November 29, 2022 Just now, IUFootballEndlessMisery said: Conference USA is, depending on your perspective, the worst or the second worst conference in the country (#MACtion), and it just looks like a bunch of unwanted schools had to band together because either they don't care about athletics (Florida International, UTEP), they pissed off the wrong people (Louisiana Tech), or are just toxic (Liberty). Your last point is the biggest reason I don’t see him going there even if they did offer. The way Liberty operates isn’t his style at all. He’s very religious, but he’s *actually* religious as opposed to whatever Liberty claims to be/is. BtownStrength, mamasa and IUc2016 3 Quote
Rico Posted November 29, 2022 Posted November 29, 2022 19 minutes ago, Hovadipo said: Your last point is the biggest reason I don’t see him going there even if they did offer. The way Liberty operates isn’t his style at all. He’s very religious, but he’s *actually* religious as opposed to whatever Liberty claims to be/is. Doesn't Liberty claim to be all about LEO? lol Quote
Popular Post Hovadipo Posted November 29, 2022 Popular Post Posted November 29, 2022 3 minutes ago, Rico said: Doesn't Liberty claim to be all about LEO? lol Pretty sure “love each other” is what the school president said to his wife and the pool boy. BtownStrength, Demo, Class of '66 Old Fart and 8 others 1 10 Quote
Stuhoo Posted November 29, 2022 Posted November 29, 2022 1 hour ago, Hovadipo said: Your last point is the biggest reason I don’t see him going there even if they did offer. The way Liberty operates isn’t his style at all. He’s very religious, but he’s *actually* religious as opposed to whatever Liberty claims to be/is. Liberty has had a change of administration due to *circumstances* Quote
JSHoosier Posted November 29, 2022 Posted November 29, 2022 2 hours ago, J34 said: IU couldn't get lucky enough to have someone hire Allen. J34, FWHoosier84, go iu bb and 4 others 7 Quote
TheWatShot Posted November 29, 2022 Posted November 29, 2022 I give a ton of credit to the Internet warriors who have no doubt been tirelessly working the echo chambers of bloggers and fan boards to try and speak this into existence. Allen is about as popular as a fart in church right now. thebigweave, FWHoosier84, Loaded Chicken Sandwich and 1 other 3 1 Quote
Loaded Chicken Sandwich Posted November 29, 2022 Posted November 29, 2022 3 minutes ago, TheWatShot said: I give a ton of credit to the Internet warriors who have no doubt been tirelessly working the echo chambers of bloggers and fan boards to try and speak this into existence. Allen is about as popular as a fart in church right now. We are doing our best lol. Quote
Stuhoo Posted November 29, 2022 Posted November 29, 2022 24 minutes ago, JSHoosier said: IU couldn't get lucky enough to have someone hire Allen. Shhhhh… Liberty may be reading Class of '66 Old Fart and go iu bb 2 Quote
OGIUAndy Posted November 29, 2022 Posted November 29, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, TheWatShot said: I give a ton of credit to the Internet warriors who have no doubt been tirelessly working the echo chambers of bloggers and fan boards to try and speak this into existence. Allen is about as popular as a fart in church right now. At least farts in church are funny. Edited November 29, 2022 by OGIUAndy thebigweave 1 Quote
Hoosierfan2017 Posted November 29, 2022 Author Posted November 29, 2022 So, didn’t we give him a big buyout to prevent another school from poaching him? In the event Liberty decided to tear out the hearts of IUFB fans and hire Allen, could we theoretically let them have him without paying us anything? (Not that we’d ever want that to happen because he’s a great coach, oh please Liberty, if you’re reading, he’s outstanding, please don’t do it!) MemphisHoosier, FWHoosier84, Stuhoo and 1 other 1 3 Quote
LamarCheeks Posted November 30, 2022 Posted November 30, 2022 CTA would be a fine fit at Liberty. In Lynchburg, they're big into LEO -- but with a twist. They like to watch and/or film while all the LEO is going on. MemphisHoosier, Rico and upperarlington 1 2 Quote
IUFootballHappyHappyJoyJoy Posted November 30, 2022 Posted November 30, 2022 2 hours ago, TheWatShot said: I give a ton of credit to the Internet warriors who have no doubt been tirelessly working the echo chambers of bloggers and fan boards to try and speak this into existence. Allen is about as popular as a fart in church right now. We're really trying to will this into reality and get "#HireTomAllen" a reality. Loaded Chicken Sandwich and MemphisHoosier 1 1 Quote
go iu bb Posted November 30, 2022 Posted November 30, 2022 21 hours ago, iubb said: His buyout is massive, at $20 million if Indiana wanted to fire him even after the 2023 season. But the buyout on Allen’s end to leave drops to $4 million on Dec. 1, which is plenty manageable. 16 hours ago, Hoosierfan2017 said: So, didn’t we give him a big buyout to prevent another school from poaching him? I didn't realize that until reading these last few posts. That makes his contract look sooo much worse than I already thought it was. The big buyout is only so that IU won't fire Allen, not to keep others from poaching him. So it's just protecting the coach, not the school, in essence. Such a terrible contract. With moves like this, IU deserves to suck at football. Stuhoo 1 Quote
TTT Posted November 30, 2022 Posted November 30, 2022 Another example of those in charge on or near top of the pyramid throwing money around without any real accountability. After it’s all said and done, success means keeping job or more opportunity and big money…failure means getting large sum of money and moving on usually with some different high pay opportunities. Gravy Train gig if you can get it. There are many examples Quote
Popular Post Chris007 Posted November 30, 2022 Popular Post Posted November 30, 2022 I think there are a few things in play here. I do think there is smoke in the air about Liberty's interest in Allen. He was an assistant there, they can offer more money and more guaranteed years. He has to know the writing is on the wall here. I think IU is not going to do anything to Allen because of the buyout right now. I think the MSU win helped, I think how we were playing early against Purdue helped and no one is donating 25 million. But I do think the administration has some things to announce as far as facility upgrades and things like that whenever Allen is gone and the new coach arrives. Just my two cents rayl456, lillurk, Stuhoo and 6 others 9 Quote
Hovadipo Posted November 30, 2022 Posted November 30, 2022 7 minutes ago, Chris007 said: I think there are a few things in play here. I do think there is smoke in the air about Liberty's interest in Allen. He was an assistant there, they can offer more money and more guaranteed years. He has to know the writing is on the wall here. I think IU is not going to do anything to Allen because of the buyout right now. I think the MSU win helped, I think how we were playing early against Purdue helped and no one is donating 25 million. But I do think the administration has some things to announce as far as facility upgrades and things like that whenever Allen is gone and the new coach arrives. Just my two cents He’s never worked at Liberty, but he did hitch his wagon to Freeze for about a decade so there’s a connection there, which is about the only one I can think of outside of the religious thing. Quote
Chris007 Posted November 30, 2022 Posted November 30, 2022 2 minutes ago, Hovadipo said: He’s never worked at Liberty, but he did hitch his wagon to Freeze for about a decade so there’s a connection there, which is about the only one I can think of outside of the religious thing. Yes you are correct. Thank you. I read somewhere that some of those people that Allen worked with at Ole Miss are on the staff at Liberty right now. So maybe a small connection there. Quote
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